cartmanbeck RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16 |
Is it possible to get the scenario cards printed from drivethru cards? If so, how? I didn't see that option. I already bought the PDF.
Unfortunately, since the scenario cards contain Paizo IP which is not covered by the community use policy, we can't offer those as printable cards on drivethrucards.com. If I have time later today, I'll pull together a list of the cards that are publicly available that we made for the original non-OP scenarios, and you can feel free to shuffle those in when playing NON-OP versions of the scenarios to increase your goblification!
Rebel Song |
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drowranger80 wrote:Is it possible to get the scenario cards printed from drivethru cards? If so, how? I didn't see that option. I already bought the PDF.Unfortunately, since the scenario cards contain Paizo IP which is not covered by the community use policy, we can't offer those as printable cards on drivethrucards.com. If I have time later today, I'll pull together a list of the cards that are publicly available that we made for the original non-OP scenarios, and you can feel free to shuffle those in when playing NON-OP versions of the scenarios to increase your goblification!
This is so amusing to me because it's Paizo stopping Paizo from printing something. There's probably a Dilbert comic about this somewhere...
Frencois |
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Hi Cartmanbeck.
Is your post covered by the community use policy?
If not, can the fact that Paizo cannot publicly refer to your post to forbid Paizo to forbid Paizo to print actually would allow Paizo to print without denying Paizo its rightful right to forbid Paizo to forbid Paizo to forbid you to write post?
And vice versa?
Dilbert.
This said, I totally support Paizo to be strict on applying community use policy. It's a great policy that allows us fans to already do a bunch of great things, with still ensuring that make money to deliver ever greater games.
Theryon Stormrune |
This is also the issue we hit when it came to our We Be Goblins! adventure.
Some cards could fall into Community Use and could be made public but the Adventure, Scenario and Location (and a few other) cards would be using Paizo's copyrighted material from the module. When I was at PaizoCon, I met Steve Wieck from DriveThruCards and had a discussion with him and Vic. Steve asked about bundling our cards on DTC but I explained that since Paizo owned the IP and the actual module material wasn't covered by Community Use, we couldn't make it happen.
That being said, please don't let proxying stop you from playing these adventures. They're a bit off but allows you to dive in with the new goblin decks using any of the nine characters. Plus, since Lamashtu had answered the pleadings of the Goblins, any character/class you bring in gains the Goblin trait.
Iammars |
One thing that I will add is that a lot of the proxies are cards that don't get shuffled into decks. There are a bunch of custom locations and there are 4 barriers which only get summoned, not mixed in. But there is some proxying.
My presumption is that if Paizo does decide to release them on DriveThruCards, they'll do it in the same way that the Season of the Shackles cards worked - but this probably requires them to release the Season of the Righteous cards first.
cartmanbeck RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16 |
cartmanbeck wrote:This is so amusing to me because it's Paizo stopping Paizo from printing something. There's probably a Dilbert comic about this somewhere...drowranger80 wrote:Is it possible to get the scenario cards printed from drivethru cards? If so, how? I didn't see that option. I already bought the PDF.Unfortunately, since the scenario cards contain Paizo IP which is not covered by the community use policy, we can't offer those as printable cards on drivethrucards.com. If I have time later today, I'll pull together a list of the cards that are publicly available that we made for the original non-OP scenarios, and you can feel free to shuffle those in when playing NON-OP versions of the scenarios to increase your goblification!
Except it's not, because I'm not a Paizo employee and Drivethrucards.com is not a Paizo subsidiary, so we have to work under the same rules as any other member of the community. The fact that we were INCREDIBLY lucky to stumble upon something that Paizo was already planning to do and somehow were able to impress them enough with our designs that they asked us to contribute is definitely not the norm, and I'm eternally grateful to the folks at Paizo and Lone Shark for giving us this opportunity. :)
That being said, here are some cards that we designed that DO fit within the community use policy (and how many I would recommend printing and shuffling in), and should enhance your goblin-y-ness if you're playing in a non-organized-play sanctioned way.
Many of the cards I'm linking here were meant to replace cards from Rise of the Runelords that don't really make sense for goblin characters. For example, not many goblins have human (or longshanks, in general) allies, so we removed most of those from the box and replaced them with goblin or animal allies. Same thing with monsters... no real reason you should be fighting against your brother and sister goblins, so remove them and put in some extra human banes. The Shopkeep's Daughter barrier isn't very tempting for a goblin, so she becomes a monster. Etc.
As far as the loot cards go, treat them as if they were available at the end of the first scenario.
Blessing of Goblin Mischief (Blessing) x5
Bruthazmus (Ally) x1
Burning Hands (Spell) x2
Chief's Robe That Is Useful (Loot) x1
Compassionate Samurai (Ally) x1
Dazzling Fireworks (Spell)
Dog (Monster) x3
Dragon Brew Gourd (Loot) x1
Ferret (Ally) x2
Giant Spiders (Ally) x2
Goblin Cheese (Item) x2
Goblin Dog (Ally) x2
Goblin Meatshield (Ally) x3
Goblin Pyro (Ally) x2
Goblin Raider (Ally) x3
Goblin Vulture Pilot (Ally) x2
Goblin Warchanter (Ally) x2
Gogmurt and Tangletooth (Ally) x1
Gorge of Gluttons (Loot) x1
Horse (Monster) x2
Monkey Goblin Cousin (Ally) x2
Ranger Trap (Barrier) x2
Ripnugget and Stickfoot (Ally) x1
Shopkeep's Daughter (Monster) x1
Skyrocket (Item) x2
Ven Vinder (Henchman) x1 (for summoning)
Wolf (Ally) x2
Zoltar the Mystic (Ally) x1
I don't think I missed any, but if I did, I'm sure David can jump in and link them for me.
Rebel Song |
That being said, please don't let proxying stop you from playing these adventures.
Oh, we're playing tonight (as Adventure 5 isn't out yet). I'm always so confused when an OP scenario doesn't have proxies. You mean the villain is actually the villain? And the henchmen are actually the henchmen? And we have to, what's this, "corner" and "defeat" the villain? What is this nonsense?
Eliandra is even playing a goblin!!!!! WHAT.
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
We'll make all the new cards for the official Season of the Goblins scenarios available on DriveThru eventually. But we're only halfway through the season—we need to finish it first, and then give it some time to work through any slugs bugs. (I also need to get a bunch of other stuff off my plate, like the last chapters of Mummy's Mask and Season of the Runelords, and the first chapters of Season of the Mummy, which haven't actually hit my plate yet...)
Eliandra Giltessan |
Theryon Stormrune wrote:That being said, please don't let proxying stop you from playing these adventures.Oh, we're playing tonight (as Adventure 5 isn't out yet). I'm always so confused when an OP scenario doesn't have proxies. You mean the villain is actually the villain? And the henchmen are actually the henchmen? And we have to, what's this, "corner" and "defeat" the villain? What is this nonsense?
Eliandra is even playing a goblin!!!!! WHAT.
I DID! I played Chuffy. I've been singing his song to myself for two days!
Hannibal_pjv |
One more question. You can sufle X amounth of Goblins fight and Goblins Burn decks to you box when playing Season of Goblins. The problem is if someone plays one of those class decks on their own, it soon becomes very hard to tell what cards become From the box and what cards come From the player deck because They Are the same...
Could it be possible to release Rice of the Runelords Goblinified deck (or We Goblins deck) that would include cards From Goblins fight and Goblins burn class decks among those Season of Goblins specials? That way you could not accidentanly mix class deck and box cards together. Even better would ofcourse be We Goblins big box, but that have to wait some time I am Afraid... But in anyway Goblin cards with "We Goblins" signature would be nice to have. Much easier to find those out of the game box and from player decks after games.
Keith Richmond Lone Shark Games |
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It's only a real impact for the players using those decks, and card sleeves or careful use can solve that handle it.
For instance, even if a player of one of those goblins acquires a card that could be in their deck, when they sleeve it, sleeve it upside down or slip a scrap of paper inside so that it's obvious it's not actually yours.
If you're willing to spend money to purchase a Season of the Goblins equivalent deck of these cards, you can actually short-circuit the process by just buying the existing goblin class decks and distinguishing them more permanently with a writing implement or sticker. A dot in the corner from a sharpie is plenty to distinguish who owns what, in my experience.
That said, it is optional to shuffle in the extra goblins. If it's too hard to manage, don't do it or take appropriate steps.
Good luck!
Brother Tyler |
Rice of the Runelords sounds yummy! ;)
To address the problem/solution, I think that the optimal solution involves sleeves and permanent markers (I use Staedtler Lumocolor pens, which won't rub off from repeated use but which wash off easily with rubbing alcohol). Simply write the initials of the owning player on the sleeve, next to the deck marking in the top left.