Great Ghost Dance

Read this.

The Lakota are seceeding, or trying to, from the U.S. The chances of them suceeding are slim, but I wonder how this will play out.

Go Lakota!

Next thing would be that Iran recognizes them as a sovereign country, maybe Cuba and Venezuela too.

FOX News: Mr. Bush, though obviously your presidency was infinitely more trouble-free than the previous administration and the cloud of doubt that hung over it based on Bill Clinton's marital infidelity scandle, but what, if anything, did you see as a low water mark during your presidency?

Mr. Bush: Well, it was kinda funny when near the end of my second term two-hundred million Americans up and left for South Dakota. Pretty funny, John.

FOX News: It's Mike sir. And why do you think they did that Mr. Bush?

Mr. Bush: Obviously they were all terrorists.

FOX News: And the high point?

Mr. Bush: Pressing the red button. Though the payday the week after I left office was pretty good too. ::beems::

NSA's Most Wanted,
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Go Lakota!

Next thing would be that Iran recognizes them as a sovereign country, maybe Cuba and Venezuela too.

I know a few Cubans who want their country back too.

I find the Lakota break off quite stunning from the perspective of a Shadowrun player and I hope it isn't casually dismissed by the government even though I don't think any amount of international recognition will matter.

I find the Lakota break off quite stunning from the perspective of a Shadowrun player

My first thought too.

My kids already behave like trolls....If they change tomorrow.....

Well, do I send a leg back to Norway, an arm back to Ireland, and the rest of my happy ass back to Germany? I don't know where to go.

At least one other Native American tribe, the Muwekma Ohlone, are thinking of following suit. If the government ignores this too long, they could all try that.

I'm actually rooting for them.

*shrug* They can leave, just don't expect them to take the land with them.

Or just slap really high tarrifs on anything coming in and out of the 'country'. Esepcially fuel costs.

Sorry, I'm just as native as any of them, so, meh.

At least one other Native American tribe, the Muwekma Ohlone, are thinking of following suit. If the government ignores this too long, they could all try that.

I'm actually rooting for them.

That's fine. I sympathize, I really do.

At least one other Native American tribe, the Muwekma Ohlone, are thinking of following suit. If the government ignores this too long, they could all try that.

I'm actually rooting for them.

It would really be interesting if something happened with all of this. The United States needs change on the homefront. It doesn't matter if it's for better or for worse. I just hate to see my country stagnating like this.

We NEED something to happen. A civil war. A zombie invasion. The return of magic. SOMETHING. I just don't want to be stuck in this rut for all of my natural life.

Did FASA get it right?

IN the SHadowrun universe the timeline shows the following activities in 2009:

1. Sovereign American Indian Movement (SAIM) seizes the Shiloh launch facility in Montana. Delta Team retakes the site, but not before the terrorists launch a Lone Eagle ICBM at Russia. The missile never arrives at its destination. The reasons for this are unknown by the public.

2. Re-Education and Relocation Act (Nepean Act in Canada) round up Native Americans into "reeducation centers".

O.O

"Means' group is based in Porcupine, South Dakota on Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. Means' group is not an agency or branch of any Lakota tribe, although he ran unsuccessfully for president of the Oglala Sioux tribe in 2006." from the Wiki

It doesn't sound like he represents the Lakota nation. The Lakota aren't seceding, not by what this Wiki article says. It looks to me like some activist types are stirring up crap.

Well, do I send a leg back to Norway, an arm back to Ireland, and the rest of my happy ass back to Germany? I don't know where to go.

Ha! part of me gets to stay! The rest goes to Germany, Poland and Scotland.

Ock aye,
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Actually, me Irish is Scotch Irish. So soon as my arm gets to Ireland, It'll start petitioning the UK government to give it back it's Scottish land.
Who knows--my arm and your duodenum might be neighbors!

My family was kicked out of Scotland, then England, then Ireland. Couldn't go back if we wanted.

They'll send you to an oil rig in the North Sea, but least you'll have all your parts.

It doesn't sound like he represents the Lakota nation. The Lakota aren't seceding, not by what this Wiki article says. It looks to me like some activist types are stirring up crap.

But if the gov. decides to make something of it, we'll have a lot of (more) pissed off natives. Besides, the activists have some very legal points. The Lakota, and others, have every right to demand their land back.

BTW, about 1/8 of me gets to stay behind. The rest gets cannon blasted all over northern Europe and the UK.

Actually, me Irish is Scotch Irish. So soon as my arm gets to Ireland, It'll start petitioning the UK government to give it back it's Scottish land.

Who knows--my arm and your duodenum might be neighbors!

My Irish is Northern Irish, so as soon as my arms, torso, and head get back to old Eire, they'll start tolchocking Englishmen, then give up and run for Parliament.

Heathansson wrote:

It doesn't sound like he represents the Lakota nation. The Lakota aren't seceding, not by what this Wiki article says. It looks to me like some activist types are stirring up crap.

But if the gov. decides to make something of it, we'll have a lot of (more) pissed off natives. Besides, the activists have some very legal points. The Lakota, and others, have every right to demand their land back.

BTW, about 1/8 of me gets to stay behind. The rest gets cannon blasted all over northern Europe and the UK.

Well, now that we've agreed that the Lakota Nation isn't actually seceding, I'm happy. I hope James Carey doesn't decide that Massachusetts is going to secede either.

Shadowrun is NOW.

FYI A lot of Hawaiians would really like their islands back too...f**!ing Imperialist Americans.

Actually, me Irish is Scotch Irish.

Oh, mixed drink huh?

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Ugggh!

So where does it end? Do the Iranians have to pay war reparations to the Spartans? Naaah, they were kinda crappy to the helots. How far back we going with all this?

I'm sewing Italy for invading my ancestral homelands.

How far back we going with all this?

Depends. Are Mossad watching this thread?

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Ugggggh!

Well, fine. Keep me updated on what's gonna go down, cause when I have to cede my house, I need to know if I'm going back to Norway, Germany, Scotland, or Wales or France like where my wife's people are from. I'm assuming we won't have to break up the family here.
Just if I'm gonna have to find gainful employment, that's 2 germanic or one romance language I'm gonna have to become fluent in, and that's a lot of work.

*shrug* They can leave, just don't expect them to take the land with them.

Or just slap really high tarrifs on anything coming in and out of the 'country'. Esepcially fuel costs.

Sorry, I'm just as native as any of them, so, meh.

Natural resources might be exactly why they won't let these tribes secede. Could you imagine if fuel rich natives in the U.S. (and Canada why not) were sovereign like Venezuela or Iran? Hoo boy.

Dirk Gently wrote:

At least one other Native American tribe, the Muwekma Ohlone, are thinking of following suit. If the government ignores this too long, they could all try that.

I'm actually rooting for them.

It would really be interesting if something happened with all of this. The United States needs change on the homefront. It doesn't matter if it's for better or for worse. I just hate to see my country stagnating like this.

We NEED something to happen. A civil war. A zombie invasion. The return of magic. SOMETHING. I just don't want to be stuck in this rut for all of my natural life.

I agree, the country is going downhill. My preference is for either the return of magic or zombies. Definitely zombies.

Have you ever seen that movie with the zombie army? We should get a zombie army.