Miteke's Legacy of Fire
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miteke
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Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
I forgot it was a second level spell.
If we dump the scroll of breath of life, add the money from the second wand and the 3,000 gp. we just got we could get the wand of restoration. It may pay off since we use a wand five times before we recharge it. How many times will we need lesser restoration over the next ten levels.
(AC 26/17/20; HP 113/113; Fort +10, Ref +14, Will +11; Init +9, Perception +0, CMD 16) Samsaran Oracle (Dual-Cursed) 12
Well, by that math...
8335 (total)
- 2275 (Scroll of Restoration)
- 4500 (Wand of Lesser Restoration)
- 750 (Wand of Infernal Healing)
- 750 (Wand of Infernal Healing)
...leaves us 60gp, which would be enough for a 1st level potion, and a bottle of Baijiu :-P
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
That works for me, Malgrim you good with that?
Hobgoblin Kineticist 12 | Init +6 (7), Senses Perception (Darkvision) +23 | AC 36, 17 Touch, 32 Flat Footed|DR 10/Adamantine | Fort +18 (20), Ref +18 (19), Will +11 | HP 151/151 (9179/175) ( Non-lethal) | Burn 7 8/10|Active Conditions: None
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Excellent. Then, with the purchased finalized, I can move on.
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
miteke wrote: Excellent. Then, with the purchased finalized, I can move on. Sweet! So who wants to carry the consumables?

Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
I'm a little irritated with myself, I normally do most of my posting in the morning anymore, but I check the boards in the afternoon and evening and throw up a post when I can. So, my post yesterday at 4:30 was rushed and not thought through. I should have brought this up then and by no means expect a change or retcon. But apparently we all forgot Gnasher had arranged to sleep in the great room and that we were keeping a watch.
'Gnasher' Red Claw wrote: As he continues descending the steps, he pauses long enough to peer into the dining room. Making a mental note of where the food would be in the morning, he continues to the first floor. Gesturing towards the three doors their host had indicated were guest rooms Maybe? he volunteers, "Ghost, Storm-Blessed and Cat-Man take rooms, Gnasher sleep here" as he indicates the soft chair in the living room. Pausing, remembering all the times they'd been attacked at night, he moves closer, asking, "Should tribe keep watch?"
I forgot too. You want to retro things or just stick with it the way it is?
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
Nah stick with how it is. I don't think Gnasher will have much trouble with the burglars, I was kind of hoping they'd open his door :)
That would have taken an extra action.
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
Maybe on their turn :)
They go before Gnasher right?
Oh I hope everyone had a good day Holiday or not :)
They went before Gnasher, but most of them just did a double move. You will be acting before them.
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
Cool, let me know when I'm up in game. Is opening the door a separate move action?
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Yes, opening a door is a separate move action. Had it not been, you would have had your wish and a thug or two would have been right there for you to obliterate.
@Seif
Would you prefer a separate init for Shadow or a combined init (the average of your two inits)?
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
Can Gnasher squeeze through the door as a move action? mmm never mind a bandit is in the way.
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He has the reach to swat one from where he is, but at his size it is going to take a move action and not a step action to get out of the room.
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
miteke wrote: You stand there discussing how and where to find this Tamir amidst the moans of whatever thugs are still living. Man it's a pity we're going to have to search this city for some fellow. Too bad we can't find someone who knows them better, like a spurned lover or a previous employee they abandoned in some bad situation....
:)
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Hah! Seems like you may have picked up on my very subtle hint. If that didn't work, I hay have had one of the bodies twitch and kick you in the shin.
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
The funny part is that I hadn't even thought about the unconscious enemy yet. So often we just assume they are dead and move on. I'll get a post up once I've gotten a little coffee in me...
Shadow is quite cuddly. All that non-lethal violence. With her around you can assume that some of your fallen foes will be simply unconscious.
Hobgoblin Kineticist 12 | Init +6 (7), Senses Perception (Darkvision) +23 | AC 36, 17 Touch, 32 Flat Footed|DR 10/Adamantine | Fort +18 (20), Ref +18 (19), Will +11 | HP 151/151 (9179/175) ( Non-lethal) | Burn 7 8/10|Active Conditions: None
We have discussed waking gnolls up in the oasis fight. But never actually did.
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
Sorry folks, the last two days I've been busier than usual doing family stuff. It sounds like there is more information to be gleaned, does someone want to try a diplomacy roll on this one. Or should we speak with another ruffian. We can intimidate them or try diplomacy first. Also I'm wondering if threatening to turn them over to officials instead of letting them go may work?
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
miteke wrote: How do you approach the locations? In the daytime, boldly, asking questions, or trying to visit them to see if you can spot something off, or perhaps at night, stealthily? There are a few trading posts, a small warehouse to the west, and a large warehouse centrally located, all'on the map'. I think I missed the map.
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No map needed yet. There is a map of Katapesh on slide 4 of the geographical maps, but for now the locations are abstract as where exactly in Katepesh these places are is irrelevant. Really, all that is important at this time is which locations you visit in which order and how.
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
Thanks I see it now, I keep forgetting you can arrow down on some of the pages. I'll wait a bit to see if anyone has any ideas, but should get a post up within a few hours either way.
I think Gnasher's instinct would be to rush in, since that's what he's been doing the whole time. But maybe he'd wait until night just for the advantage he'd have over humans.
Hobgoblin Kineticist 12 | Init +6 (7), Senses Perception (Darkvision) +23 | AC 36, 17 Touch, 32 Flat Footed|DR 10/Adamantine | Fort +18 (20), Ref +18 (19), Will +11 | HP 151/151 (9179/175) ( Non-lethal) | Burn 7 8/10|Active Conditions: None
So I think we hit his residence first, then the small facility and then the large facility. I think we start early and try stealth. If we wait until the next night we do not have much time if we need to hit multiple sites and then get clues to lead to a fourth or fifth site where he might actually be.
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
that works for me, Seif any thoughts?
(AC 26/17/20; HP 113/113; Fort +10, Ref +14, Will +11; Init +9, Perception +0, CMD 16) Samsaran Oracle (Dual-Cursed) 12
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Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
miteke wrote: So, do you set up a tail, or do you take a more forceful tact? Good question, I'd wait to see if Malgrim can learn anything else and report back with a recommendation. Gnasher's not worried about a little B&E in broad daylight, but do we really want to trust a gnoll to make this call?
Just a reminder that if you do decide on the direct confrontation route, he has been know to cast Dimension Door... Just saying.
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
My posting may be slow for a couple of days, I still intend to check the boards a couple of times a day, but I'm not living at the computer. Don't wait for me to make the decisions and if we get in combat bot me if needed.
Both my wife and mom have come down with covid. My mom (86) was almost unresponsive so we called the squad, she's at the hospital. I'll end up being there a bit and taking care of my wife, thus not at the computer as much as usual and I hate posting on my phone.
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Not unusual this time of year, even without the health issues. I feel the same about posting on my phone too. I just need someone to decide on how to approach/infiltrate/enter the warehouse and I can move things along.
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Hobgoblin Kineticist 12 | Init +6 (7), Senses Perception (Darkvision) +23 | AC 36, 17 Touch, 32 Flat Footed|DR 10/Adamantine | Fort +18 (20), Ref +18 (19), Will +11 | HP 151/151 (9179/175) ( Non-lethal) | Burn 7 8/10|Active Conditions: None
I am sorry to hear about your mom and wife. Hopefully, they get better quickly!
Hobgoblin Kineticist 12 | Init +6 (7), Senses Perception (Darkvision) +23 | AC 36, 17 Touch, 32 Flat Footed|DR 10/Adamantine | Fort +18 (20), Ref +18 (19), Will +11 | HP 151/151 (9179/175) ( Non-lethal) | Burn 7 8/10|Active Conditions: None
I will be on vacation from Thursday through next Monday. I am not sure how much I will be able to post in that time. Feel free to bot me as needed.
Level up to level 8, everyone.
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
Woot! miteke wrote: When you say eastern door, do you mean B6? Because Seif opened that one and launched the melee we just had.
I'm going to assume you bypass the Arcane Lock spell on the door to B4 (instead of B6). B4 ...
Sorry, I did mean B4, I cross my east and west if I'm not paying attention.
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
I still need to get the shopping done, but here are the changes so far for 8th level.
8th Level Bloodrager
+ 1 BAB, Fort, Strength
Claws: At 8th level, the damage increases to 1d8 points
Bloodline Power: using Primalist Archetype options for two barbarian rage powers: Reckless Abandon, Increased damage reduction (applies to fast healing)
skills @ 4: + 1 to Acrobatics, Intimidate, perception, and Survival
HP: 1d10 + 4 ⇒ (3) + 4 = 7 So will take average + 1 at 10 HP
Edit: removed a couple minor magical items and added a belt of physical perfection,
Hobgoblin Kineticist 12 | Init +6 (7), Senses Perception (Darkvision) +23 | AC 36, 17 Touch, 32 Flat Footed|DR 10/Adamantine | Fort +18 (20), Ref +18 (19), Will +11 | HP 151/151 (9179/175) ( Non-lethal) | Burn 7 8/10|Active Conditions: None
Hobgoblin Kineticist 12 | Init +6 (7), Senses Perception (Darkvision) +23 | AC 36, 17 Touch, 32 Flat Footed|DR 10/Adamantine | Fort +18 (20), Ref +18 (19), Will +11 | HP 151/151 (9179/175) ( Non-lethal) | Burn 7 8/10|Active Conditions: None
Kineticist 8
+8 HPs+5 Con+1 FC=14 HPs gained
BAB +1
Fort +1
Reflex +1
Dexterity +1
Gained Healing Burst [Heal everyone in 30 ft. I take a point of burn.]
Infusion Specialization +2
I bought a +2 Ring of Protection and two more wands of Infernal Healing in case we get in a tight spot. Everything should be correct now.
Malgrim is getting quite tanky.
@Gnasher
Does that mean you do not have any damage reduction, you have fast healing 3 instead?
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
Yes, that is correct, the spell eater archetype gives him fast healing instead of DR.
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
miteke wrote: The ones closest to the door slash with their guisarmes.
to hit: 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (20) + 9 = 29
damage: 2d4 + 5 ⇒ (1, 3) + 5 = 9
confirm: 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (16) + 9 = 25; barely crits because Gnasher is flat footed.
damage: 6d4 + 15 ⇒ (2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2) + 15 = 25
Hey miteke wouldn't the crit damage have been 4d4+10, the guisarme is x3, not x4. The original attack was x1 so the crit should be x2 not x3. If we average it, the damage on that attack would 17 not 25, you cool with that?
I was going to ask if Gnasher got cover from the other two attacks but they both still would have hit....
Of course. I will have to deduct 9 points of damage.
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
miteke wrote: That's right. correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Gnasher was at -25 after the infernal healing finished and this will put him at -22. hmmm, not sure, I'll double check. With the damage comeing off th 'rage' bonus first, - 25 would put him at 88, so -22 is 91. And now he needs to rest for another minute due to fatigue...
'Gnasher' Red Claw wrote: 'Gnasher' Red Claw wrote: miteke wrote: Which doors are you wedging from which side? The door from B11 to the west and the door to B11 to the north?
Good question, the western door in B11 (which we haven't opened yet) would be wedged from the east side of the door. The northern door in B11 would need to be dealt with (wedged or whatever) from the north side of the door? Crap, I meant to move this to discussion, sorry No worries. I am not anal about that sort of thing, and though I agree that any post that is 100% OOC is better off in discussion, it is more a matter of being better than required.
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
I just get in a hurry and forget to copy and paste it over. But I figure if I address it, then it helps me remember the next time.
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
miteke wrote: Gnasher gets half way when the sword blinks out of existence and moment later a horror from the deep.This creature is a 5-foot wide orb dominated by a central eye and large serrated mouth. Hundreds of small seaweed-like bristles hang from the bottom of its body. Two large crab-like pincers protrude from its body, and two long, thin eyestalks sprout from the top of its orb. I see the creature on the map, how much higher is the bridge than the water? Would it get an aoo if gnasher moves more than 5 ft? He's holding a reach weapon and size will matter for spacing, so I'm just trying to figure out the best option for fighting.
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Actually it is moving towards you, so it is still below the surface at the moment. You will get an AoO on it as it approaches you unless you run onto land, though at reduced damage as per the underwater combat rules. Once it emerges, though, your weapons will do normal damage. Make sense?
Male Gnoll Bloodrager 12 | HP 146/146 (Rage Temp HP: 36/36) |AC 26/T15/FF23 (Rage AC: 20/T9/FF17| F+15/R+9/W+8/11(rage) | CMB + 18/CMD 31 | init + 5 | Perc + 15 | intim. + 23 | Surv. + 15 | Rage: 29/29 HP+36 /AC-4/Will+3/fast healing 3 | Spells/lvl: 1st: 2/3, 2nd: 3/3, 3rd:2/2 | BoS 10/10
miteke wrote: FYI the sword did not turn into the eye. The sword was an illusion cast by the eye and the eye came up from the unseen depths. That would explain why Gnasher didn't see it turn into the eye :)
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