Sherman Blake |
I feel your conflicts there... It sucks to spend the little time we have on playing something we don't enjoy, but on the other hand losing contact with people sucks too...
But good to hear you had a happy ending there.
And just like you, I haven't been able to enjoy 2E at all.
Loth Dalveran |
That's a lovely ending, I'm glad things managed to work out. It just goes to show how important it is to regularly check in to see how everyone's enjoying it.
I'm quite fond of 2E myself, but I've only had experience GMing it and I can't deny that in the end that campaign (my homebrew magnum opus) kind of floundered. Now I have no non PbP groups to speak of and that is really unfortunate. Maybe I should get the group together again for something sometime...
Tarphrex the Magnificent |
I am also very fond of 2E both as a player and as a GM. But I'm very happy whenever people are able to play the game they want to play.
I play a crazy number of 1E games even though it's not my first choice anymore - some games predate 2E, some games that I happily stumbled into. This game, for example, I absolutely adore.
GM Sphen |
I am also very fond of 2E both as a player and as a GM. But I'm very happy whenever people are able to play the game they want to play.
I play a crazy number of 1E games even though it's not my first choice anymore - some games predate 2E, some games that I happily stumbled into. This game, for example, I absolutely adore.
I appreciate the sentiment.
Zenaida Radulescu |
Hurray for healthy communication!
I'm with GM and Sherman, I don't care for 2E. I like the complexity of 1E, it keeps my brain busy, and I need that. Fortunately there seem to be plenty of players in both camps, so everyone can find a game they like.
Sherman Blake |
Loaded statement, I know. But I need a marching order.
Arrange yourselves on the maps page. Loth and Tarphrex are in the front, and then....
I put Sherman as third (but can stay more back if someone else wants to be there).
Quinn Hadas |
I'm good with 4th behind Sherman. Moved Loth and Tarphrex to 1 and 2.
Alain Lawrence |
Just a precaution cast, i have the slots thanks to oracle protection from evil is a big spell but everyone knows the important bits
the subject gains a +2 deflection bonus to AC and a +2 resistance bonus on saves. Both these bonuses apply against attacks made or effects created by evil creatures.
And the second is for spells and saving throws.
We have 2 minutes 30 seconds in total should help
GM Sphen |
I know you all won't take the demon's offer, but she doesn't. If anyone feels like now is the time to attack, we'll roll iniatitive. She's not so into the negotations that she isn't ready to throw down at the first sign of hostility.
Zenaida Radulescu |
*Merry and Pippin meme* We've had one spell effect, yes. But what about the second spell effect?
Second, the subject immediately receives another saving throw (if one was allowed to begin with) against any spells or effects that possess or exercise mental control over the creature (including enchantment [charm] effects and enchantment [compulsion] effects, such as charm person, command, and dominate person). This saving throw is made with a +2 morale bonus, using the same DC as the original effect. If successful, such effects are suppressed for the duration of this spell. The effects resume when the duration of this spell expires. While under the effects of this spell, the target is immune to any new attempts to possess or exercise mental control over the target.
Sherman Blake |
Heh, I think I had the exact same discussion with GM some ago, but his ruling then was the same as now :)
And it's fair, making immune to dominate etc. is quite powerful effect for 1st lvl spell.
Quinn Hadas |
While, I would love to not be nauseated, I agree with the GMs ruling.
Looking through the forums, I've seen differing opinions. The wording is what sticks out to me. "mind control over the target" would be a subset in my opion.
I'd expect them to use the term 'compulsion' or 'mind-affecting' if they meant to include all of those spells. While we wouldn't encounter it in society play, an evil teammate wouldn't be able to cast bless on his companions if all were included while prot-evil was up.
GM Sphen |
I appreciate the support, I really do. I dread having to debate rules with players, specifically when they're at a disadvantage in the game situation.
And we did discuss this earlier in the game and my ruling will stay the same, for the same reasons.
But I will also add, this was triggered by the creature, but is an ability of the weapon itself.
Quinn Hadas |
my bad on premature action. I was just so excited to try and run away screaming. :-P
GM Sphen |
my bad on premature action. I was just so excited to try and run away screaming. :-P
More like run away barfing.
Zenaida Radulescu |
Okay, so this either happened while I was away, or I had a brain fart and forgot. Both are equally likely, to be honest. I’ll try to remember for future reference!
Tarphrex the Magnificent |
I'm struggling to find time to get on the site, sorry. I finally got the map to a useful size, but I have no idea how well I can actually see the snake-woman now that I see my actual position.
Zenaida Radulescu |
I'm so happy, I actually hit something! My character in the WotR game I'm also playing has had the worst luck in the current combat. Five rounds and I rolled 5 or below for every attack roll.
EDIT: Just posted in the other game. Rolled a 2. What did my poor cleric do to piss Desna off this much?
GM Sphen |
I hope you do hit, but I'm going to roll for mirror image.
And she's going to stab at you with her spear as you approach.
Zenaida Radulescu |
…of all the saves to fail. F#*&. …Let me swear, Paizo forums! This is a situation that calls for swearing!
At least we’re in Magnimar. Pretty sure Chaplain Tira can and will provide a spell or stone salve to restore her student.
Sherman Blake |
Ouch, that petrification was bad. And scary. I don't suppose we had any hero points or other sources of rerolls?
GM Sphen |
Ouch, that petrification was bad. And scary. I don't suppose we had any hero points or other sources of rerolls?
Rerolls? Not unless you took the feats or abilities for them.
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Superbowl is this weekend, that's why I presume that Alain hasn't posted. I'm going to give him till Monday so he can have a more effective turn than me botting him.
Alain Lawrence |
Please and thank you, Getting swamped with work this weekend. F the Superbowl. I'm literally just going to move in, Activate smite and attack. I'll do it when I can today over break
Alain Lawrence |
Getting this through from the local library. My Internet is out because Verizon is filled with idiots. I'll be gone maybe another day, sorry guys. Nid have posted otherwise
Sherman Blake |
Tactics-wise, Alain and Quinn have the best chances to damage the enemy so perhaps they should focus on that? Sherman's offensive magic is limited due to the SR and apparent immunity to mind-affecting effects, so he'll be more of a support (and maybe help pop the images). He could also try to help with the statue, but with STR bonus -2 it's a bit lame effort.
Tarphrex the Magnificent |
Apologies for my absence. I hate to point out that my magic missiles are subject to spell resistance.
Spell Resistance for last round's spell: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (17) + 4 = 21
GM Sphen |
Apologies for my absence. I hate to point out that my magic missiles are subject to spell resistance.
[dice=Spell Resistance for last round's spell]1d20 + 4
Yep, I totally missed that one. Luckily, that passes and I don't have to change anything.
Quinn Hadas |
Unless I'm missing something, looks like your math is right GM
Alain Lawrence |
yep...seems right to me...oh well, it happens lol. i lost the game of rocket tag this time around
Sherman Blake |
@GM: I think you might have earlier botted Alain in a way to escape death:
---Alain, Bot---
Alain, now im-biggified, steps a bit to get a clear swing and attacks at the creature with a mighty shout of "HOLY SMITE!"...
[dice=Smite Evil]1d20+9+3
Smite evil gives CHA to AC. It's deflection bonus, so doesn't stack with PfE. But with CHA 16=+3 AC should be 20, right?
Alain Lawrence |
Yeah but an earlier attack that hit too i just forgot to lower my health on the bar. I'd be at minus like ... 19 or something
GM Sphen |
Yeah but an earlier attack that hit too i just forgot to lower my health on the bar. I'd be at minus like ... 19 or something
Just double check, that earlier attack was after your first round of using Smite Evil, and also hit on AC 19. So that should negate that attack as well.
I'm seeing 30 damage done. Which keeps you alive for now.
Tarphrex the Magnificent |
Good GM, how would a pit spell interact with our enemy's perch? Asking for a friend.
GM Sphen |
It would function normally. If you put it directly beneath her, she would either need to fall in or move. Realistically, her just moving so flanking can happen may be the best bet. Keep in mind, the pit can't overhang the roof. The whole thing needs to be on the rooftop. And pits are not dismissable
Sherman Blake |
Silence takes over.
@Tarphrex: That is going to reach you as well.
Damn, I was just looking at the map of the upper floor and didn't realize Tarphrex was on the lower floor.
*facepalm*Sherman Blake |
hoo boy, with these rolls I'm starting to put my money on TPK :D
Zenaida Radulescu |
Yeah, hopefully GM will let us roll a new party if that happens. I imagine the Radulescus and the Dalverans would pool their resources and contacts to hire people to find out what happened to their loved ones and avenge them.
GM Sphen |
You all remember the fight in the lumber mill? Remember my horrible rolls over and over again?
WELL NOW IT'S YOUR TURN!! VENGENCE WILL BE MINE AND IT SHALL BE A VICTORY MOST SWEET!!!!!!
(Alain: if I'm wrong about you being dead, let me know.)
Loth Dalveran |
Yeah this is looking rooouugh!
Let me just start thinking up a new character. Y'know. Just in case.
Sherman Blake |
We haven't dealt any damage yet, have we? Two of us down, three to go.
Trying to flee to tell the tale starts to sound like a good option. But we're on the top of a bloody tower, so that isn't easy either...
quite hectic at work, but I'll try to think of some action at some point
Alain Lawrence |
A group I was in a while ago blew the tower up, barely survived, but killed the creature. Town was pissed until we dragged the thing out lol