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Castell Danza wrote:

I know the lack of emoticons can make my posts a bit hard to decipher in tone, so for reference; I started this.

Icehawk333 wrote:

I'd cut the price down to 250 GP due to the similarity to an existing spell.

The spell'so target would become (a number of protectiles equal to your level)

Could the target be changed to just a ranged weapon instead? As is, I don't think I'd make it through one fight with any spell slots that level left.

Not "a ranged weapon"

But I could make the target "a quiver, and all ammunition contained within."


Human
icehawk333 wrote:
Castell Danza wrote:

I know the lack of emoticons can make my posts a bit hard to decipher in tone, so for reference; I started this.

Icehawk333 wrote:

I'd cut the price down to 250 GP due to the similarity to an existing spell.

The spell'so target would become (a number of protectiles equal to your level)

Could the target be changed to just a ranged weapon instead? As is, I don't think I'd make it through one fight with any spell slots that level left.

Not "a ranged weapon"

But I could make the target "a quiver, and all ammunition contained within."

Works for me. It would be the same level? Lower? Higher?

Oh yeah, Fray can fly now. Forgot about that.


Male Human Magician 5 | HP: 28/28 | AC: 16 | AnH +5, Arc +4, Dec +5, Ins +5, Nat +4, Rel +4 | Saves: S1, D1, C4*, I1, W2, Ch5* | Init +1 | PP: 12 | Spd: 30' | Insp: No | HD: 2/2 (6), 3/3 (8) | Spell DC: 12 (I), 13 (W,C) | Spells: 1 (4/4), 2 (3/3), 3 (2/2) | Status: Normal

So I take it everyone gave up their gear and bodies to the swamp?

Chris grabbed his sword. Castell grabbed his armor. I grabbed my Favor, Bardiche, and backpack. Sarrissa grabbed Fray's body.

That's all I saw.


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Castell Danza wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
Castell Danza wrote:

I know the lack of emoticons can make my posts a bit hard to decipher in tone, so for reference; I started this.

Icehawk333 wrote:

I'd cut the price down to 250 GP due to the similarity to an existing spell.

The spell'so target would become (a number of protectiles equal to your level)

Could the target be changed to just a ranged weapon instead? As is, I don't think I'd make it through one fight with any spell slots that level left.

Not "a ranged weapon"

But I could make the target "a quiver, and all ammunition contained within."

Works for me. It would be the same level? Lower? Higher?

Oh yeah, Fray can fly now. Forgot about that.

Same level.


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Merek Montague wrote:

So I take it everyone gave up their gear and bodies to the swamp?

Chris grabbed his sword. Castell grabbed his armor. I grabbed my Favor, Bardiche, and backpack. Sarrissa grabbed Fray's body.

That's all I saw.

Anyone can say they grab as much as they can carry of whatever they wanna grab.

Zombies are kinda really slow, and they are in swamp sludge.

I would assume that (I can't remeber right now) grabbed his katana.


Male Human Magician 5 | HP: 28/28 | AC: 16 | AnH +5, Arc +4, Dec +5, Ins +5, Nat +4, Rel +4 | Saves: S1, D1, C4*, I1, W2, Ch5* | Init +1 | PP: 12 | Spd: 30' | Insp: No | HD: 2/2 (6), 3/3 (8) | Spell DC: 12 (I), 13 (W,C) | Spells: 1 (4/4), 2 (3/3), 3 (2/2) | Status: Normal

I looked back; Sarrissa grabbed almost everything she could. So did Edgar.


Human
Merek Montague wrote:
I looked back; Sarrissa grabbed almost everything she could. So did Edgar.

I just grabbed my armor. Figured it was the only thing I could really use still, and I sure don't have the carrying capacity to pick up other things.


Male Human Magician 5 | HP: 28/28 | AC: 16 | AnH +5, Arc +4, Dec +5, Ins +5, Nat +4, Rel +4 | Saves: S1, D1, C4*, I1, W2, Ch5* | Init +1 | PP: 12 | Spd: 30' | Insp: No | HD: 2/2 (6), 3/3 (8) | Spell DC: 12 (I), 13 (W,C) | Spells: 1 (4/4), 2 (3/3), 3 (2/2) | Status: Normal
Castell Danza wrote:
Merek Montague wrote:
I looked back; Sarrissa grabbed almost everything she could. So did Edgar.
I just grabbed my armor. Figured it was the only thing I could really use still, and I sure don't have the carrying capacity to pick up other things.

That's one of the reasons I offered. :)

The other was in case anyone wanted anything they forgot to pick up before the running started.


Zveris's gem never left his hand.

He grabbed his belt(and therefore knife, spell component, and coin pouch) and his armor coat.

His coat won't fit, but it might fit someone. He has to wear his belt around his neck.

His clothes are destroyed and his shield is useless since he can use the arm for a second claw now.

The rest of his possesions are in his home.


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Castell Danza wrote:
Merek Montague wrote:
I looked back; Sarrissa grabbed almost everything she could. So did Edgar.
I just grabbed my armor. Figured it was the only thing I could really use still, and I sure don't have the carrying capacity to pick up other things.

It's not too bad, acutslly.

You can count as a quadruped when you want to, and your STR is 13.


Oh, also, noticed that I get Darkvision and +4 Stealth and extra +4 in rocky areas.


Male Human Magician 5 | HP: 28/28 | AC: 16 | AnH +5, Arc +4, Dec +5, Ins +5, Nat +4, Rel +4 | Saves: S1, D1, C4*, I1, W2, Ch5* | Init +1 | PP: 12 | Spd: 30' | Insp: No | HD: 2/2 (6), 3/3 (8) | Spell DC: 12 (I), 13 (W,C) | Spells: 1 (4/4), 2 (3/3), 3 (2/2) | Status: Normal

How?

Also, what are the trog's racial stuff?


Human
icehawk333 wrote:
Castell Danza wrote:
Merek Montague wrote:
I looked back; Sarrissa grabbed almost everything she could. So did Edgar.
I just grabbed my armor. Figured it was the only thing I could really use still, and I sure don't have the carrying capacity to pick up other things.

It's not too bad, acutslly.

You can count as a quadruped when you want to, and your STR is 13.

Wait, I can? I'm learning more about the Tavi all the time. Maybe Castell should start learning from them too.

EDIT:

Zveris Pilvo wrote:
Oh, also, noticed that I get Darkvision and +4 Stealth and extra +4 in rocky areas.

Wait, you can?


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Merek Montague wrote:

How?

Also, what are the trog's racial stuff?

More frog racial stuff.

EDIT-
Clearly, my English is great.


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Castell Danza wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
Castell Danza wrote:
Merek Montague wrote:
I looked back; Sarrissa grabbed almost everything she could. So did Edgar.
I just grabbed my armor. Figured it was the only thing I could really use still, and I sure don't have the carrying capacity to pick up other things.

It's not too bad, acutslly.

You can count as a quadruped when you want to, and your STR is 13.

Wait, I can? I'm learning more about the Tavi all the time. Maybe Castell should start learning from them too.

I don't see why not, with a body structue like a mongoose, you could easily drop to all fours and run like that.

It would disable your hands, of course.


Troggy

It's listed under racial modifiers, so I assume I get it. :)


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Darkvison, yes.

Stealth, yes.

It is the second most powerful race on the list. (1st is still bugbear.)

Thoguh, tavi gets a +4 too, due to size.

Tavi and troglodye. Great stealth buddies.

And only one wants the tear the other's eyes out.


Male Human Magician 5 | HP: 28/28 | AC: 16 | AnH +5, Arc +4, Dec +5, Ins +5, Nat +4, Rel +4 | Saves: S1, D1, C4*, I1, W2, Ch5* | Init +1 | PP: 12 | Spd: 30' | Insp: No | HD: 2/2 (6), 3/3 (8) | Spell DC: 12 (I), 13 (W,C) | Spells: 1 (4/4), 2 (3/3), 3 (2/2) | Status: Normal

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icehawk333 wrote:
Castell Danza wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
Castell Danza wrote:
Merek Montague wrote:
I looked back; Sarrissa grabbed almost everything she could. So did Edgar.
I just grabbed my armor. Figured it was the only thing I could really use still, and I sure don't have the carrying capacity to pick up other things.

It's not too bad, acutslly.

You can count as a quadruped when you want to, and your STR is 13.

Wait, I can? I'm learning more about the Tavi all the time. Maybe Castell should start learning from them too.

I don't see why not, with a body structue like a mongoose, you could easily drop to all fours and run like that.

It would disable your hands, of course.

Does the tavi get the racial skill modifiers?

Racial Modifiers +8 Acrobatics, +4 Bluff (to checks made to feint in combat), +8 Climb, -5 Diplomacy (vs. serpents), +8 Escape Artist, +4 Stealth.


Fixed. :)


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Sarrissa wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
Castell Danza wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
Castell Danza wrote:
Merek Montague wrote:
I looked back; Sarrissa grabbed almost everything she could. So did Edgar.
I just grabbed my armor. Figured it was the only thing I could really use still, and I sure don't have the carrying capacity to pick up other things.

It's not too bad, acutslly.

You can count as a quadruped when you want to, and your STR is 13.

Wait, I can? I'm learning more about the Tavi all the time. Maybe Castell should start learning from them too.

I don't see why not, with a body structue like a mongoose, you could easily drop to all fours and run like that.

It would disable your hands, of course.

Does the tavi get the racial skill modifiers?

Racial Modifiers +8 Acrobatics, +4 Bluff (to checks made to feint in combat), +8 Climb, -5 Diplomacy (vs. serpents), +8 Escape Artist, +4 Stealth.

Yep.

Didn't notice them, but yes.
Acutslly helps put him closer to the rest of the group.


Human
Sarrissa wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
Castell Danza wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
Castell Danza wrote:
Merek Montague wrote:
I looked back; Sarrissa grabbed almost everything she could. So did Edgar.
I just grabbed my armor. Figured it was the only thing I could really use still, and I sure don't have the carrying capacity to pick up other things.

It's not too bad, acutslly.

You can count as a quadruped when you want to, and your STR is 13.

Wait, I can? I'm learning more about the Tavi all the time. Maybe Castell should start learning from them too.

I don't see why not, with a body structue like a mongoose, you could easily drop to all fours and run like that.

It would disable your hands, of course.

Does the tavi get the racial skill modifiers?

Racial Modifiers +8 Acrobatics, +4 Bluff (to checks made to feint in combat), +8 Climb, -5 Diplomacy (vs. serpents), +8 Escape Artist, +4 Stealth.

Just a quick correction, the bluff bonus is only against reptilians. But the rest would be, uh, nice? Lets go with nice.


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Can the Tavi be my familiar?...


Male Human Magician 5 | HP: 28/28 | AC: 16 | AnH +5, Arc +4, Dec +5, Ins +5, Nat +4, Rel +4 | Saves: S1, D1, C4*, I1, W2, Ch5* | Init +1 | PP: 12 | Spd: 30' | Insp: No | HD: 2/2 (6), 3/3 (8) | Spell DC: 12 (I), 13 (W,C) | Spells: 1 (4/4), 2 (3/3), 3 (2/2) | Status: Normal

Ah; you're using the monster. The Lizardfolk monster entry gets more abilities than the Lizardfolk race used here.

To note, we lose the +4 racial bonus to acrobatics, the ability to hold our breath for 4x con score, and our bite attack is weaker.

This is actually really common. Monster entries are more powerful than PC versions.


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Zveris Pilvo wrote:

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Can the Tavi be my familiar?...

Magical beast daqualifes it.

And im rather sure he likes being able to talk.


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Merek Montague wrote:

Ah; you're using the monster. The Lizardfolk monster entry gets more abilities than the Lizardfolk race used here.

To note, we lose the +4 racial bonus to acrobatics, the ability to hold our breath for 4x con score, and our bite attack is weaker.

This is actually really common. Monster entries are more powerful than PC versions.

Feel free to add those.


Male Human Magician 5 | HP: 28/28 | AC: 16 | AnH +5, Arc +4, Dec +5, Ins +5, Nat +4, Rel +4 | Saves: S1, D1, C4*, I1, W2, Ch5* | Init +1 | PP: 12 | Spd: 30' | Insp: No | HD: 2/2 (6), 3/3 (8) | Spell DC: 12 (I), 13 (W,C) | Spells: 1 (4/4), 2 (3/3), 3 (2/2) | Status: Normal

Upgrade! Woo!


Human
Zveris Pilvo wrote:

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Can the Tavi be my familiar?...

We still need to make friends first, then, maybe I'll sit on your shoulder.


I use the monster because there isn't a race for the troggy. :/

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We can be like Groot and Rocket. ^_^

Besides, you're the one that wants to bond. :P

I also think it's funny that my raccoon is bigger than you are when it wants to be...


Male Human Magician 5 | HP: 28/28 | AC: 16 | AnH +5, Arc +4, Dec +5, Ins +5, Nat +4, Rel +4 | Saves: S1, D1, C4*, I1, W2, Ch5* | Init +1 | PP: 12 | Spd: 30' | Insp: No | HD: 2/2 (6), 3/3 (8) | Spell DC: 12 (I), 13 (W,C) | Spells: 1 (4/4), 2 (3/3), 3 (2/2) | Status: Normal

I totally get why you used it, Z; I had just thought that Ice made one up for you like he did with the Tavi.


Human
Merek Montague wrote:
I totally get why you used it, Z; I had just thought that Ice made one up for you like he did with the Tavi.

Actually the Tavi have an entry on the PFSRD.


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Zveris Pilvo wrote:

I use the monster because there isn't a race for the troggy. :/

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We can be like Groot and Rocket. ^_^

Besides, you're the one that wants to bond. :P

I also think it's funny that my raccoon is bigger than you are when it wants to be...

About that.

That's a third level ability, and your wizard level for your bond is your level -3.


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Castell Danza wrote:
Merek Montague wrote:
I totally get why you used it, Z; I had just thought that Ice made one up for you like he did with the Tavi.
Actually the Tavi have an entry on the PFSRD.

I messed with the stats a bit-

Less harsh on int, but also toned back the DEX.


Male Human Magician 5 | HP: 28/28 | AC: 16 | AnH +5, Arc +4, Dec +5, Ins +5, Nat +4, Rel +4 | Saves: S1, D1, C4*, I1, W2, Ch5* | Init +1 | PP: 12 | Spd: 30' | Insp: No | HD: 2/2 (6), 3/3 (8) | Spell DC: 12 (I), 13 (W,C) | Spells: 1 (4/4), 2 (3/3), 3 (2/2) | Status: Normal
icehawk333 wrote:
Zveris Pilvo wrote:

I use the monster because there isn't a race for the troggy. :/

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We can be like Groot and Rocket. ^_^

Besides, you're the one that wants to bond. :P

I also think it's funny that my raccoon is bigger than you are when it wants to be...

About that.

That's a third level ability, and your wizard level for your bond is your level -3.

There's a feat to fix that.


Human
Zveris Pilvo wrote:


We can be like Groot and Rocket. ^_^

...can you shift into part tree?

Zveris Pilvo wrote:
I also think it's funny that my raccoon is bigger than you are when it wants to be...

I hope I hear a yes.


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Merek Montague wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
Zveris Pilvo wrote:

I use the monster because there isn't a race for the troggy. :/

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We can be like Groot and Rocket. ^_^

Besides, you're the one that wants to bond. :P

I also think it's funny that my raccoon is bigger than you are when it wants to be...

About that.

That's a third level ability, and your wizard level for your bond is your level -3.

There's a feat to fix that.

I know, but he doesn't have it.


Male Human Magician 5 | HP: 28/28 | AC: 16 | AnH +5, Arc +4, Dec +5, Ins +5, Nat +4, Rel +4 | Saves: S1, D1, C4*, I1, W2, Ch5* | Init +1 | PP: 12 | Spd: 30' | Insp: No | HD: 2/2 (6), 3/3 (8) | Spell DC: 12 (I), 13 (W,C) | Spells: 1 (4/4), 2 (3/3), 3 (2/2) | Status: Normal
icehawk333 wrote:
Merek Montague wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
Zveris Pilvo wrote:

I use the monster because there isn't a race for the troggy. :/

--------

We can be like Groot and Rocket. ^_^

Besides, you're the one that wants to bond. :P

I also think it's funny that my raccoon is bigger than you are when it wants to be...

About that.

That's a third level ability, and your wizard level for your bond is your level -3.

There's a feat to fix that.
I know, but he doesn't have it.

Yet...


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I know. But he already used it in one of his posts.

I jsut hadn't checked it yet.


Ahebwkdwkwmdjwndjejwlsbfjwj.

I always forget about the stupid level difference.

I did just look it up, though, and it's only -2.


Human
icehawk333 wrote:
Castell Danza wrote:
Merek Montague wrote:
I totally get why you used it, Z; I had just thought that Ice made one up for you like he did with the Tavi.
Actually the Tavi have an entry on the PFSRD.

I messed with the stats a bit-

Less harsh on int, but also toned back the DEX.

I dunno, I feel like the dex could have been left as is. I'm still gonna be no bugbear or trog, after all.[/proddingtheGM]

EDIT: Have I mentioned I love characters like Fray?

EDITSPAM: Is the racial bonus on stealth the +4 size bonus, or do they stack?


By the time I could get the feat, he'll have the ability anyways...


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Castell Danza wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
Castell Danza wrote:
Merek Montague wrote:
I totally get why you used it, Z; I had just thought that Ice made one up for you like he did with the Tavi.
Actually the Tavi have an entry on the PFSRD.

I messed with the stats a bit-

Less harsh on int, but also toned back the DEX.

I dunno, I feel like the dex could have been left as is. I'm still gonna be no bugbear or trog, after all.[/proddingtheGM]

EDIT: Have I mentioned I love characters like Fray?

To be fair, I didn't expect people to roll both of those.

I also didn't expect 3/7 party members to be lizards.

(I could put you up to +6 dex. -2 from normal, as i buffed the int by 2.)


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Castell Danza wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
Castell Danza wrote:
Merek Montague wrote:
I totally get why you used it, Z; I had just thought that Ice made one up for you like he did with the Tavi.
Actually the Tavi have an entry on the PFSRD.

I messed with the stats a bit-

Less harsh on int, but also toned back the DEX.

I dunno, I feel like the dex could have been left as is. I'm still gonna be no bugbear or trog, after all.[/proddingtheGM]

EDIT: Have I mentioned I love characters like Fray?

EDITSPAM: Is the racial bonus on stealth the +4 size bonus, or do they stack?

stack.


Male Human Magician 5 | HP: 28/28 | AC: 16 | AnH +5, Arc +4, Dec +5, Ins +5, Nat +4, Rel +4 | Saves: S1, D1, C4*, I1, W2, Ch5* | Init +1 | PP: 12 | Spd: 30' | Insp: No | HD: 2/2 (6), 3/3 (8) | Spell DC: 12 (I), 13 (W,C) | Spells: 1 (4/4), 2 (3/3), 3 (2/2) | Status: Normal

Fray is a fantastic character.

Castell, look at the bonus type. If one is a race and the other a size, then they stack.


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♣♠Magic♦♥ wrote:

Ahebwkdwkwmdjwndjejwlsbfjwj.

I always forget about the stupid level difference.

I did just look it up, though, and it's only -2.

....

I'm imagining you smashing your face into your phone, over and over, then hitting enter and typing the rest.


Human
icehawk333 wrote:
Castell Danza wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
Castell Danza wrote:
Merek Montague wrote:
I totally get why you used it, Z; I had just thought that Ice made one up for you like he did with the Tavi.
Actually the Tavi have an entry on the PFSRD.

I messed with the stats a bit-

Less harsh on int, but also toned back the DEX.

I dunno, I feel like the dex could have been left as is. I'm still gonna be no bugbear or trog, after all.[/proddingtheGM]

EDIT: Have I mentioned I love characters like Fray?

To be fair, I didn't expect people to roll both of those.

I also didn't expect 3/7 party members to be lizards.

(I could put you up to +6 dex. -2 from normal, as i buffed the int by 2.)

Oh I don't actually want to be pushy about it. Up to you to stay as is or not, I have updates to do either way.


He fits the game well.

I only wish he had been a less human race...


Male Human Magician 5 | HP: 28/28 | AC: 16 | AnH +5, Arc +4, Dec +5, Ins +5, Nat +4, Rel +4 | Saves: S1, D1, C4*, I1, W2, Ch5* | Init +1 | PP: 12 | Spd: 30' | Insp: No | HD: 2/2 (6), 3/3 (8) | Spell DC: 12 (I), 13 (W,C) | Spells: 1 (4/4), 2 (3/3), 3 (2/2) | Status: Normal
♣♠Magic♦♥ wrote:

He fits the game well.

I only wish he had been a less human race...

I was considering trying to use him to be our town face to get equipment and commission armor - but with an attitude like his, human-looking or not, he'll be run out of town.


Good point.

I think our ferret is the go to for groceries.

He has good Charisma and diplomatic immunity.


A Chinchilla

grumbles internally

(Also testing this alias.)

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