I just wanted to be sure. I don't own UM, and my rl GM won't let anyone use any thing from any supplement he hasn't bought for Hero Lab. *shrugs*
I actually just found it today, I didn't know there was an acid equivalent to shocking grasp. ^_^
Acctually Shocking grasp is more powerfull, delivering d6 instead of d4 and having a +3 when the target wears armor. Also burning hands does 1d4/level but in area, so I think it's a diminished spell, but conjurers and acid-themed sorcerers might make good use of it.
Please raise your hand who would love to receive Vanish!
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I like Shocking Grasp in general, but with my bloodline arcana I'll be throwing 5d4 +5 at 5th level with Corrosive Touch instead of 5d6 with Shocking Grasp. I like the 10-25 damage spread better than 5-30. Plus I think less stuff is resistant to acid than electricity, but that's always dependant on what the GM throws at us. I'm not familiar with the campaign, but I guess if we always face armored foes, Shocking grasp would serve better in the long run.
All right, boys and girls. Single file line for Vanish, please! ^_~
With Reach Spell, at level 4 you could turn it into a better version of Acid arrow.
If you give the vanish to Pretty, she can capitalize with her sneak attack.
Not now, but thanks. 1 round will not allow us to chose the right moment, let's keep the plan as it is already and move to the combat. Jacob's turn!
Besides, i'm counting on you to win initiative Cassius. Ganbatte!
Right now it only lasts one round, so Pretty would have to stand close enough to Sera to be touched during combat, that will be tricky if she wades into melee. But it will get better as we gain levels.
I love that this is such a tactically minded group. This is actually my first Sorcerer and I've never had a Wizard surpass level 2, (due to the group I was gaming with falling apart, not death by stupidity, lol) so the input is appreciated. ^_^
One question about elves sleeping habits. Do they actually sleep, or do the trance?
They sleep normally, 8 hours a day.
How far away from Restov is this trading post? Is taking the men for trial there even practical?
Do you want me to keep money and equipment gained updated Jacob?
Can we automatically sell what we don't want or do we have to try it?
Are we able to RIGHT NOW use the money from the bandit's equipment if we sell them to Oleg?
Ideally someone would keep tabs on gear and rations and all that jazz. Since this is an exploration campaign, encumberance and running out of food are legitimate concerns.
Yeah, Oleg has funds on hand to buy off everything, plus you can browse his wares. He's got slim pickings right now because of the bandits, but he'll have pretty much all the standard gear in later weeks.
Sending the bandits back to Restov would involve convincing a passer-by to transport them, plus, according to Rostland law, they would be executed anyway.
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175 XP for everyone, by the way.
I was getting the impression that execution was likely to be a regular task our characters would have to reconcile themselves to. Does that mean they don't operate prisons? It's death or freedom and nothing in between?
There are prisons back in Restov, but that's pretty much the nearest reliable penal system. Right now, you're in the wild, where might makes right. In all honesty, not executing bandits will make for a hard life. Of course, once you get a bit established you could probably put the,m to work or something...but right now you'd be stuck trying to pawn them off on a passing merchant or cart them around everywhere with you.
Is it 50gold each as reward or for everyone?
Also, if you want me to I could learn some of the geas lesser, or geas/quest spells to help keep them on good behavior, but that's a long way off.
50 gp total, plus whatever you sell Oleg out of the bandit's gear.
alchemist’s fire (2)
leather armor (4)
dagger
composite longbow (+2 Str)
longbow (3)
80 arrows
8 days of trail rations
silver amulet worth 20 gp
short sword (3)
65 gp
This is from the bandits I think we should keep the alchemist fire, composite longbow, trail rations, silver amulet, and replenish arrows from their supply. (gold goes without saying). Is there anything else people want to keep from this list? I personally only want the amulet, or a potion of CLW not both.
Well Kivan and everyone else, i would propose the following.
"Dropped" items are a opportunity for people to get them for half the price, so we should use it. But if we simply start getting stuff our chars will get unbalanced, since some classes are far more gold demanding than others (than yours, for example).
The GROUP itens, like arrows, potions, alchemist items and some others are just gonna be kept by whoever may hold it, but we would consider all the INDIVIDUAL items to be sold. If anyone wants the item they will "pay" the rest of the group for their part of it, as if they would have sold it. Here's my work, still in progress, for that purpose.
To be more clear, an example. The Composite Longbow STR2 costs 300gp, a new one. If we sold it we would share 150gp, that's 25gp each. IF anyone wants it they will "pay" the rest of the group for their part, that means 5 times 25 gold, 125gp total.
So, what do you all think?
I like the idea in theory, but what about when an item is both very useful and expensive beyond the potential owner's current means? Personally, I'd rather see that Composite Longbow in Cassius' or Idris' hands since they could make the best use of for the good of us all, even though neither may have 125 to pay for it now. Could items like that remain party property and carried by whoever can use it best until they can pay in and claim it fully?
Also, how should we handle it when more than one person wants to buy an item?
bidding I suppose.
Not bidding, definitely. We're played long enough to know that everyone here is an adult and it's polite enough to be don't fight over a single item. Of course, if a Gloves of Dexterity +2 appears everyone in our party will want it, so we can use common sense, settle a higher price like 80% instead of 50%, or roll to see who's luckier ^^
And anyway Sera, the purpose of that is to balance our characters on the long term run. We would not be counting gold pieces over the itens, so it will work like a "gold pool" for us, having the right to get that amount when you need it. Of course we will be in the middle of NOWHERE so we will be unable to sell nor to buy for a long time, so that won't be a problem. As long as my gold pool share is available I will borrow the money to the ones who want it, since buying the items we found costs half the price, and I expect everyone to do the same, if what's asked it at least reasonable.
The pool of gold atm is 400gp, which gives 66.75gp each. I can do NOTHING with that individual money, aside from rations and the like, so I'll let whoever keeps the bow to pay me later. It leaves us with plenty of room to work with.
Besides, we will need 2 more horses, with 2 saddles, that will cost 170 gold, so our Party gold has dropped to 80 gold ^^
Didn't the bandits have horses?
Didn't the bandits have horses?
Only 4, i believe. So we need 2 more. I'm not sure we should share those horses (which are probably light) cause we may need to ride fast, and also we will probably have equipment to bring back.
The bandits had 5 horses, one extra to carry stuff.
*Edit*: Also, if I understand correctly, we don't have the gold to purchase horses. Would Oleg be willing to extend them on loan?
We got 433 gold total (plus whatever is on the "Kept" section of the sheet), but we're not selling the bow now since who's gonna keep it cannot pay for it, so the party pool drops by 150 PO, leaving us 283 Gold to buy one or two horses, plus some other things.
I'm just going to put this question out here cause it will probably come up sometime, but when you say worth x amount of GP do you mean we would sell it for that or we would sell it for half of that?
GM, do you want us to track XP or will you just tell us when to level?
Normally I'd just tell you, but since this AP is so open-ended, you'll have to keep track. Be warned, that does make it possible to wander into areas that are out of your league.
Does the AP use medium advancement, like the more recent ones?
Not bidding, definitely. We're played long enough to know that everyone here is an adult and it's polite enough to be don't fight over a single item. Of course, if a Gloves of Dexterity +2 appears everyone in our party will want it, so we can use common sense, settle a higher price like 80% instead of 50%, or roll to see who's luckier ^^
And anyway Sera, the purpose of that is to balance our characters on the long term run. We would not be counting gold pieces over the itens, so it will work like a "gold pool" for us, having the right to get that amount when you need it. Of course we will be in the middle of NOWHERE so we will be unable to sell nor to buy for a long time, so that won't be a problem. As long as my gold pool share is available I will borrow the money to the ones who want it, since buying the items we found costs half the price, and I expect everyone to do the same, if what's asked it at least reasonable.
The pool of gold atm is 400gp, which gives 66.75gp each. I can do NOTHING with that individual money, aside from rations and the like, so I'll let whoever keeps the bow to pay me later. It leaves us with plenty of room to work with.
Besides, we will need 2 more horses, with 2 saddles, that will cost 170 gold, so our Party gold has dropped to 80 gold ^^
I'm a little unclear why bidding on an item is akin to fighting over it... I know they call it a "bidding war" sometimes, but there's no reason that it couldn't be a mature and civil exchange.
Forgive me if I seem rude by asking... Pretty, is English a secondary language for you? I'm having just a little trouble understanding your phrasing.
But you can count on me to be easy going on equipment and the like. I'm used to dealing with Party Property and I think it works well. Documenting it is a bit of a pain, though. So thank you for volunteering to manage it. =)
I'm pretty easy going too, as long as im not always screwed out of the good treasure all the time
I'm just going to put this question out here cause it will probably come up sometime, but when you say worth x amount of GP do you mean we would sell it for that or we would sell it for half of that?
If it's a jewelry, gem, or other trade tolls, saying "it's worth 20gp" gives us already the selling price. Otherwise the "sale price" is already the 50% market price.
Forgive me if I seem rude by asking... Pretty, is English a secondary language for you? I'm having just a little trouble understanding your phrasing.
Yes! But I'm trying hard, but you can always ask when there's something you don't understand ^^ I believe the main problem is that sometimes I don't review what I write, but I'll be more careful.
And maybe the bidding would not be such a bad idea after all...
Anyway, I'll be keeping notes on the equipment, until someone wants me to stop and finds a better way of doing it.
Idris probably would make the best use of the +2 str longbow, since she's the only one with a +2 to strength.
Yes! But I'm trying hard, but you can always ask when there's something you don't understand ^^ I believe the main problem is that sometimes I don't review what I write, but I'll be more careful.
And maybe the bidding would not be such a bad idea after all...
Anyway, I'll be keeping notes on the equipment, until someone wants me to stop and finds a better way of doing it.
You are doing well! But it is good for me to know that so I can tone down my more figurative languages and speak more plainly. I tend to use a lot of southern american expressions that can be confusing if I'm not being more careful. ^_^
I do want to say just 3 things on the party treasure list.
1st:Good job. It looks great.
2nd: Would anybody mind if 20 GP came out of my individual gold just to keep the amulet? I feel we might be able to use it, and I don't want Oleg to have to deal with whatever trouble it might cause.
3rd: Right now my character doesn't need anything from the list or the gold, so because we need to purchase a horse I would be fine with all of my individual gold earned being used towards the horse (Not including the 20 for the amulet).
1 - Thank you;
2 - I see that's a good point, and on that base we should keep it as a group item (since it doesn't bring you any benefit) as long as most of us agree. I do. But if you want to take it out of your individual gold to pay it's even better for the rest of us, tough not so fair.
I'm brazilian, btw, and I understand that the first line of one of my posts up here is barely understandable ^^ I'll be more careful.
Are we agreed that Idris has the +2str Longbow?
I'm upgrading the gold sheet to a whole new level, but it is being hard for me to figure out how to do it. Anyway, as Maja said the bow is yours Idris.
EDIT: Well, it's done and I think it clearer now, as it show us our "Real money Pool", meaning what we could use from the mutual gold we acquired and plus some character's remaining gold.
We can also see who has took more than a standard share of the treasure on the columns to the right, so the one in debt "should" avoid spending more money so the others could also do something.
I'm not sure who has the alchemist's fire, so who wants that? Or should we sell it?
If you want to be able to edit the sheet just send me a google-related e-mail, and I'll allow it on the system.
I can't find your link to the gold sheet, Pretty.
I think she means that she edited the one she gave before.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkkOLBBDBV19dHh5aVZENFo5bTJ6aW RIQ2x2bXNNTEE#gid=0