By the way, note the edge of the balcony on the map. It's a bit obscured by auras and tentacle monsters.
We're not seriously contemplating signing up with him, are we?
Shh. Alchemists don't get telepathic bond.
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For a moment I thought Tanith and Farrukh might have had a bonding moment.
And then Farrukh opened his mouth.
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Bah, I can't find Astraden's godfather's name.
He never did give it.
By the way, the sepia-toned octopin is the one that failed its save.
Don't forget your Protections From Evil!
Sadly, an extra +1 doesn't save me.
Anyone know a feat that would let me swap squares with Farrukh, here?
There's Switch Places, but that would require him to be able to move.
Otherwise, I'd say it's a move action to pull him back. You can make it a free action if you're willing to knock him prone and possibly inflict some damage from him hitting his head on a marble floor.
If you retreat, grab my weapons. I think Farrukh might do nasty things to Tanith in his sleep if his bonehead move costs him his stuff.
Hell no, I'm gonna have to drop my OWN weapon to do this. Tanith can be on weapon collection duty :D
Tanith had no reason to believe this was some kind of strategic move on Farrukh's part. Was there a secret message passed someplace that I missed?
Tanith cannot possibly be that mistrustful of Farrukh.
I'd just like to point out that we're in prime Lightning Bolt territory here. I'd be quite supportive of a retreat to a less confined space.
I'm kind of confused on why Farrukh and Astraden are acting like Tanith has screwed up the plan. KC's response to Carina's question implied that wasn't the case and Farrukh wasn't rolling any bluff checks.
No Bluff checks were needed. Farrukh never uttered a lie, but nor did he say he was ever considering following through with joining up with the guy.
I figured it was pretty self-evident by now that Farrukh isn't the type to throw you guys under the bus, or to actually work with the bad guys. I'm honestly a bit confused as to why Tanith would think he would, as he's been given no indication that Farrukh would do so in the past, even when it was OFFERED before.
Best case scenario I was hoping we could get him to come down within slice slice range to place his Geas or whatever, worst case we buy a minute for somebody to think of a battle plan for an enemy who is forewarned of our presence, pre-buffed, surrounded by allies, and flying.
My worst case was a bit optimistic, it seems.
Unfortunately, a lack of communication tends to royally screw such plans over in the real world...
Oh, well. KC, would I be able to use a Dispelling Bomb to snap Farrukh out of the stun?
Unfortunately, a lack of communication tends to royally screw such plans over in the real world...
Oh, well. KC, would I be able to use a Dispelling Bomb to snap Farrukh out of the stun?
It's not a spell or an SLA, nor does it function like one, unfortunately.
As for the first bit, we've been working like a well oiled machine for a while now. I'm really confused as to why all of a sudden a plan needs t be stated outright for the other party members to twig on to it.
But mostly I'm just frustrated I didn't get to hear the rest of Zyrxog's monologue. Who the hell is he working for?
I'm being as objective as I can be when I say that I don't know much about what motivates Farrukh. We know he likes killing stuff and spicy food but that's about it. As far as Tanith knows, Farrukh's an honorless mercenary and agreeing to work with the mindflayer in the interest of a paycheck and avoiding a tough fight seems entirely in-character for him. It's possible he was assuming we'd sign on too.
Also, from the TvTropes page you referenced.
The plan includes a deception, and your allies aren't in on it so that their reactions to the apparent situation will be convincing.
I'm convinced!
In all fairness, Rynjin, on an OOC side, you probably should have been rolling a Bluff check. Whether or not you "lied", your motives weren't exactly portrayed honestly to poor old Zyrxog. :P
I was about to say as much, in fact, when Tanith ninja'd me.
Unfortunately, a lack of communication tends to royally screw such plans over in the real world...
Oh, well. KC, would I be able to use a Dispelling Bomb to snap Farrukh out of the stun?
Hard to say, but I don't think so. Dispel Magic doesn't work on color spray, so I wouldn't think it would work on Mind Blast. But Mind Blast doesn't give enough of a description for me to know if it's instantaneous or not. It is a spell-like ability.
Basically, if a detect magic would work on Farrukh, so would a dispel.
If Farrukh was an "honorless mercenary" and nothing else, he wouldn't have stuck around with you guys for so long. He's just as dedicated to stopping the apocalypse as you guys, and was just as gung ho about killing Zyrxog as anyone.
I'll grant you I didn't make him a very nuanced character, but not once in this entire ordeal has he taken the easy way out, or even given a hint that he'd join the other side.
In all fairness, Rynjin, on an OOC side, you probably should have been rolling a Bluff check. Whether or not you "lied", your motives weren't exactly portrayed honestly to poor old Zyrxog. :P
I was about to say as much, in fact, when Tanith ninja'd me.
Unfortunately, a lack of communication tends to royally screw such plans over in the real world...
Oh, well. KC, would I be able to use a Dispelling Bomb to snap Farrukh out of the stun?
Hard to say, but I don't think so. Dispel Magic doesn't work on color spray, so I wouldn't think it would work on Mind Blast. But Mind Blast doesn't give enough of a description for me to know if it's instantaneous or not. It is a spell-like ability.
Basically, if a detect magic would work on Farrukh, so would a dispel.
If it's a spell-like, what spell is it based on? Its a big difference if it has a duration, or it's an Instantaneous effect that lasts a certain number of rounds.
Not all SLAs are based on anything. It's going to be a judgement call on KC's side if the stun is dispelable or not.
In all fairness, Rynjin, on an OOC side, you probably should have been rolling a Bluff check. Whether or not you "lied", your motives weren't exactly portrayed honestly to poor old Zyrxog. :P
I don't really agree with this, honestly.
Bluff is used specifically to:
-Make a believable lie.
-Convey secret message.
-Feint
And two new uses:
-Feign Harmlessness
-Suggest course of action in conjunction with Diplomacy.
I don't think what Farrukh was doing (pumping Zyrxog for more details on teh deal and the plot) falls into any of the above. He was genuinely curious, even if he had no intent to sign on.
I'd adjudicate a flayer's mind blast as being closest to the (unofficial) Dreamscarred psionic blast. Which is instantaneous.
I think his intent falls into the 'believable lie' category.
So I won't be able to dispel his stun, then? Dammit.
Farrukh scans the room carefully, noting the visible threats, and speaks to Zyrxog to buy time.
I knew he was bluffing because of that.
Anyway, if we retreat I can summon a herd of aurochs behind us to occupy them for a couple rounds.
White lies and half-truths are considered uses of the Bluff skill. That's a pretty standard ruling and hardly a house rule. :P
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Farrukh scans the room carefully, noting the visible threats, and speaks to Zyrxog to buy time.I knew he was bluffing because of that.
Anyway, if we retreat I can summon a herd of aurochs behind us to occupy them for a couple rounds.
"Oh, look. A bunch of cows forty feet below me. I better go down and engage them; they'll make a right mess of the bare stone and marble."
No...in the hallway where we are now. Thus clogging it with (1d3+2)x28 HP worth of beef.
Tanith did cast those resist energy scrolls, right?
Yeah.
Yep, figured those were a vescavor swarm.
Wrath of the Righteous has taught me to be on the lookout for them.
Dotting again because it wiped my dot for the Discussion thread.
Yay 10,000 posts! :D
I baked a cake in celebration. Zyrxog stole it, though, so we have to kill him to get it.
Rynjin, I think I'll let you spend an action point to reroll the Will save when you're halfway through the effect's duration (so in three more rounds). It may not make a difference, but we'll see.
Ah, cool. I thought I had found my answer in Defiant Luck, but it needs a +4 base Will. =(
Not this Defiant Luck, right?
Errr, one sec.
Sorry, Heroic Will.
Jelani, in the future, please clear third-party supplements with me before bringing them into the game. I'm very open to non-Paizo materials on a case-by-case basis, but that doesn't mean you can just take for granted that I'll allow them.
By the way, what does the "Held" condition refer to?
Finally, and I'm just being pedantic here, I will point out that the gravity elemental's tactics are a bit advanced considering what it knows. Gravity elementals are extremely stupid, and their page explicitly states, "Gravity elementals attack primarily by flailing at their opponents with multiple arms... These creatures can also attack by adjusting the local gravity fields around themselves." That's the extent of your typical 4 Int gravity elemental's tactical know-how.
I'll grant that grappling is a decent tactic once it knows how hard Xyrxog is to damage with its measly attacks, but it has no way of knowing that yet, and you have no way to direct it to take less direct tactics. :P
KC, just out of curiosity, would Tanith be able to grapple Zyrxog on the way down to keep himself from falling?
Even if he was, Tanith was attacking from reach. Xyrxog's too far away.