Thanks, I am relatively new to the whole pbp
Welcome, I am too. Just familiarize yourself with the spoiler tags and dice tags, that's essentially all you need.
Updated Kirk is ready for his next battle (not tonight though, I'm at GMT+1) :)
@Jehova, did you consider the consumable rules (some amount of replenishing consumable funds for each fight)?
@Inen Somar: Welcome to the Wonderful World of PbP!
@ Inen: No worries, same here. It's been fun so far though. Besides, this whole arena is currently in the testing phase, so I think we're all feeling the rules out a bit as we go to find what works. In the meantime though, hope you have fun here :)
Looking forward to getting my hands dirty in the arena, and spilling some blood, hopefully some one else's blood and not mine
Maybe we need a lvl 10 test fight, just to see how much the arena can handle at mid levels (not without shameless selfishness, I want to know what Kirk can do at mid levels)?
Crap, I accidentally closed out of the full message I was writing, which included the randomization, but all I guess you guys really need to know is that FIGHTS.
Rolg vs. Bruno (Level 2 this time!)
and
Kailin vs. Kirk (with respective pets)
Anyone who's not currently in one of these fights should let me know and I'll get you in soon-like.
@Spock, google docs is the easiest, but PM me if you simply need to mail something. I think the biggest thing Im going to change for Arena 1.0 is the way I'm getting and keeping track of characters, right now there's way too much of me running around through links and PMs.
Macho is not in any fights yet if he is still a contender.
Right! Macho! I knew I was missing someone who was still around... well then, that gives us enough of a pool to set up another match, doesn't it?
Who will Macho fight?
1. Kirk
2. Kailin
3. Inen
Alright, it's Macho vs. Kailin, and Kirk vs. Inen. I'll post those once I've had some beauty sleep.
Well, that should be interesting. I wonder how well Macho can wrestle a snake, and how well a snake can wrestle Macho :P Though, I feel like it might be kind of stacked in Kailin's favor (2 vs 1... but I suppose if Macho can incapacitate either of them, he'll be pretty well off).
Also, this is extremely random, but it just kind of popped into my head... does this arena run on Free Wishes? I want to assume that it probably does. If not, then I think this business needs an overhaul, in order to increase profit (otherwise, these resurrections get costly). Just wondering :P
Well, being undead I suppose you would need some thralls for such a plan. But I mean, if you're already good on Immortality, and already probably have the minions, seems like it'd be worth making sure you got some luxuries too.
Of course... the best way to cover up some awesome scheme like this so people don't get wind of it (or the mastermind) would probably be to hide it under a front of some sort, I suppose. Like... a shop or an arena of some sort. Hmm... :P
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CLEARLY YOU ARE NOT BUSY ENOUGH WITH BLOODSHED AS YOUR MINDS ARE WANDERING TO RIDICULOUS PLACES WHERE THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING AND WILL ACCOMPLISH NOTHING.
C'mon c'mon, I'm getting itchy, let's go! :)
(sry, I really did play too much BGII)
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Just a heads up, Jehova. We may need some arbitration in the Rolg vs Bruno fight.
No problem. it's especially difficult since we're going from a map with no player tokens. But implementing that is a headache for the DM, as it requires them to do photo manipulation of some sort every time someone acts.
I just happen to have photoshop on my machine, so I toss tokens up and update them as the fight progresses... definitely makes things easier for me.
I'll just wait for some resolution before I post... I'd certainly like to avoid that much damage if at all possible.. at least avoid it without giving out some pain in return.
So, here's a question. I'm unsure if I might have done something illegal in Kailin's fight vs. Kirk. Now, Kirk won, so it doesn't make much of a difference but it involves some game mechanics, so I'm wondering how it works.
I readied a partial charge for Sunahl, thinking you could do it as a standard action and only move half your speed (the way you can in a surprise round). But I saw something recently that suggests that is not the case (kinda forget where it was). So, does anyone here know whether you can do that (partial charge as a standard) or can you not?
Just curious at this point mostly, but it seems like something that could come up on occasion.
I think that's an illegal action. Here's the relevant text (that i can find):
are able to take only a standard action on your turn, you can still charge, but you are only allowed to move up to your speed (instead of up to double your speed) and you cannot draw a weapon unless you possess the Quick Draw feat. You can't use this option unless you are restricted to taking only a standard action on your turn.
You were capable of a full round of actions, so for you, the only thing you could do would be a full round charge.
I could be wrong, though.
Well, ironically, he readied on his surprise round, so he was sorta limited to only a standard.
Edit: It's kind of weird though that you can partial charge when you could only do a standard action, and simply move up to your regular speed, but then you lose that capability when you have your full range of actions. So... I don't know, kind of odd.
Oh, actually i think that's the one way a (non-staggered/non-slowed) PC can do it.
It is odd, but I appreciate that it prevents people from using their move to create a charging lane, and then usign their standard to charge... kind of bypasses the restrictions of charging.
Hmm, that's true enough. It would certainly be problematic if someone could just move a bit to make a clear charge and then... well, charge, that much more easily. I hadn't really thought of that possibility.
Jeez, Rolg and Bruno.
I'm glad the 20+ damage dealers at level 2 are duking it out on each other. Sheesh o_O
Edit: Also @ Inen and Spock's fight. Summoned creatures act on the initiative of when they were summoned, as best I know.
This spell summons an extraplanar creature... It appears where you designate and acts immediately, on your turn.
Jeez, Rolg and Bruno.
I'm glad the 20+ damage dealers at level 2 are duking it out on each other. Sheesh o_O
Yep. That's why i was so intentional about trying to control his ability to charge... that's nasty.
Edit: Also @ Inen and Spock's fight. Summoned creatures act on the initiative of when they were summoned, as best I know.
This spell summons an extraplanar creature... It appears where you designate and acts immediately, on your turn.
I'm fairly certain that's only talking about creatures that are summoned by that spell. The creatures in question are their eidelons and whatnot, correct? i would think they'd get their own initiative rolls since they are "in play" when the arena starts.
@ Eben: Inen seems to be using the Summoner's Summon Monster SLA, not the Eidolon. Eidolon does indeed have its own Initiative.
Assuming Inen is a summoner, anyway :P
oh, then yes, you'd be right.
That is quite the Summoner fight going on over there!
Alright, marking another VP for Rolg, as well as another 700g. One more win and he goes to level 3.
Any takers?
I will give you a go
So, here's a question. I'm unsure if I might have done something illegal in Kailin's fight vs. Kirk. Now, Kirk won, so it doesn't make much of a difference but it involves some game mechanics, so I'm wondering how it works.
I readied a partial charge for Sunahl, thinking you could do it as a standard action and only move half your speed (the way you can in a surprise round). But I saw something recently that suggests that is not the case (kinda forget where it was). So, does anyone here know whether you can do that (partial charge as a standard) or can you not?
Just curious at this point mostly, but it seems like something that could come up on occasion.
The small part for "charge if you only have a standard or move action" does not state that kind of charge is a standard or move action. I interpret it that you are still allowed to take the special full round action charge under the circumstances that you are only allowed a move or standard action. And therefore I don't think you can ready a (small) charge because you can only ready a standard, move, free or swift actions.
Charges very clearly cannot be prepared. It takes your full turn whether or not that's restricted to a standard action. For total proof, check out this feat.
I will give you a go
Cool. Maybe Jehova can set us up an arena sometime soon.. unless he has some more randomized matches in mind.
I'm good either way.
I'm not quite ready yet (have to adjust my riches).
Same for me, and by that I mean I am ready to go whenever, not feeling to picky
Charges very clearly cannot be prepared. It takes your full turn whether or not that's restricted to a standard action. For total proof, check out this feat.
Well then, I clearly messed that up. Guess it's not too big a deal since he missed on the charge regardless, though it sure did mess up initiative order. Good to know for the future.
I guess this can bring up another weird question. The alternative to having him ready was that I was going to just have him delay his turn, but that opens up some weird questions too. If you delay in the surprise round, would you have your full range of actions when you choose to go in the first normal round? Or would it delay 'your' surprise round so you'd still be limited to a standard in the first round then?
Honestly, the reason I went with the readied charge in the first place was to avoid weird rules on delaying :/ So... anyone know what happens there?
The rules state that if you delay your initiative into the next round, you do not get your action for that round.
Kirk is ready for combat again :)
Well here's the thing.
Let's say Initiative looks like this:
.
Kailin
Kirk
Sunahl
Surprise Round: Sunahl is at the bottom of initiative, after the opponent. He has a standard action, but decides not to use it, because he's not ready to do anything yet. So he delays his turn.
Round 1: Kailin goes, and Sunahl takes his turn after him. Initiative is now:
Kailin
Sunahl
Kirk
Now this is sort of the same turn that Sunahl delayed from the Surprise round. But it's Round 1 now. So, in theory, he would have his full round's worth of actions, before Kirk gets his full round of actions. See how it gets weird?
Edit: It also makes me curious if he'd be counted as flat-footed while delaying.
I think he would still just have a standard or move/swift action. Because he only delayed such action and forfeits his full round action by delaying into the first round. He should not be flat-footed however because he had a chance to act.
But then if he wants to have his full round's worth of actions in Round 1 he needs to do something in the surprise round to basically waste his turn. There's not really a way to just skip turns as far as I know - that's more or less what delaying is, I think - so he'd need to just ready an action or do something frivolous and then get his turn in the next round.
I don't know, seems like a weird scenario to me. Again, that's why I went with trying to ready a charge. Because I didn't really want to delay, since I wasn't sure what it would mean for his next turn.
What you essentially try to do is use your surprise round to go first (effectively improving your initiative) in round 1.
Nvm on me being ready for another fight. RL stuff.
I long for combat!
What you essentially try to do is use your surprise round to go first (effectively improving your initiative) in round 1.
But the only way to avoid that if you've got nothing to do would be to, I dunno, ready some random action. The only other option would be to delay, which mixes up initiative.
I agree you shouldn't be able to go first doing this, it's a matter of not wanting to get stuck with 1 action during the actual first round. If you delay your turn, that might actually be what would happen.
I long for combat!
I could perhaps take you up on that once Kailin's out of battle, assuming (iirc) we can't have more than one character of a given level active. If you don't face him, sounds like you might get stuck with Bruno the splatter-guy :P
Hey, Kirk got quite a headache but the evil lich resurrected him ;)
But he still got some days to sleep (I'm only half available till Monday).