Dark Ages Vampire - Bloodlines

Game Master Dennis Harry

Bloodlines is a continuation of the now defunct table top Dark Ages Vampire game wherein the PC's have created lineal descendants throughout the ages.

Attendees seeking a seat or have a seat in the Inner Circle:

Assamite - Lord Bajazet al Nasir.

Brujah – Lady Meridie de Chancie, Lord Criatas, “Dark”Selena, Robin Leeland.

Cappadocian – Lord Benne.

Gangrel – Milov Petrankov.

Lasombra - Prince Narses the Archbishop of Nod

Malkavian – Antione le Fanu, Lutz von Hohenzollern.

Nosferatu – Cristo Petradon, Simon.

Salubri – Brian Stack.

Setites – Sadir.

Toreador – Rafael de Corazon, Francois Villon, Helene la Jouste.

Tremere - Radek, Mistress Fanchon.

Tzimisce – Myca Vykos.

Ventrue – Alyssa Gilbert, Lady Jadviga Almanov, Lanzo von Saschen, Prince Alexander.

Remember - only those listed get votes. Of course influencing their Childer can go a long way to getting a vote.

Social Combat:

Let me first thank Sir Dunstan and his excellent Game of Thrones campaign as the inspiration for this rules tweak. A shout out to Vitaliano who also does an excellent job as a player in that campaign.

Game of Thrones has a Social Combat system that, while not translatable directly, I used as inspiration for this campaign.

This is a proposed rules set and I am more than happy to hear feedback from Players before I implement it in full.

Roleplaying is still required to get your point across. However, I think a mechanical system could be beneficial for this scenario, a scenario quite unlike anything I have ever done in a Vampire game before.

Making My Case

To convince a “voter” to side with your Sire, you may roll the following set of Attributes and Abilities:

1. Against someone who is clearly NOT in your favor --- Manipulation+Subterfuge+Politics
2. Against someone who is NEUTRAL – Charisma+Expression+Politics

The difficulty of all rolls is that Cainites Willpower. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to win the contest. Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to make your case and can only attempt do so one time per night.

If you have Presence – Awe or Enrancement, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

Beware, failing in using Presence in Elysium can lead to Sanctions by Thomas Brexiano.

Also beware, Cainites may try to turn this system around on you…

But What if Someone Else Tries This on a Voter I just Brought to my Side?

Amount of successes is a key factor here, you will want to score as many success as you can to ensure that a rival does not try to take that vote from you!

Certain NPC’s already believe that others are in their favor and would never change their votes. Those will be the toughest cookies to break.

Note this system cannot be used on:

Your In-Clan rivals, no amount of sweet talking or bribes will change their minds they all want this position badly.

Prince Narses, he simply will not entertain such discourse. Of course, this does not mean you cannot try to get into the ears of one of his Childer to have them speak with him…

Discerning My Quarry’s Intent

How can I tell if someone is for or against me despite what they are saying?

Make a Perception+Empathy+Politics roll.

The difficulty is 10, less that Cainites Humanity score. Those closer to the Beast are much harder to read. For every Century over 300 years that Cainite has lived, the DC will be increased by 1, topping out at 10, as these Cainites have well and truly mastered this game to have existed for so long in the first place.

Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to ferret out their intent and can only attempt do so one time per night. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to ascertain their intent.

If you have Auspex – Read the Soul or Invade the Mind, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

How else can I make my case?

The use of Presence, while frowned upon, is much less cause for censure than using Dominate. Dominate does not work on a Cainite whose blood is closer to Caine than your own. If you seek to use Dominate to convince a voter (or perhaps one of the Childer?) to vote for your Sire, it would be best used elsewhere in the city.

Boons – the boon system of quid pro quo can also be used to gain votes. You will need to offer something of course that that voter does not have or cannot get from another candidate.

Eliminate my rivals. This one is obvious though failure to do so without detection may subject YOU to the Final Death!


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Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Onfroi's plot to win begins to take shape bwa hahhahah


Storyteller Shadow wrote:
There are no rules on how long it should take to learn a Discipline. Therefore I think I will create a simple system for this. Will work on it I/C with Lorenzo and finalize it when I have some time.

That has always been one of the things that gets me the problem with it to me has always been the variety of different disciplines out there to learn.

Other questions considerations
1. clan and non-clan
2. Physical, mental, spiritual, other
3. How the power manifests
4. How the power is triggered, burn blood/reciting spells/etc
5. Self taught or instructed
6. Is the discipline to be learned related to the one(s) you already know
7. If you can be instructed in the basics in X amount of time, what Y amount of time has to pass before you can use the discipline?

As an example a young progeny sees his Sire perform Discipline A, and instructs the youngling in the discipline for 30 days. Unfortunately the Sire meets his final death, did the youngling learn enough to finally develop the power or is it lost.

The next question is advancing in a discipline from say one dot to two, do you need an instructor or is a spontaneous?


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

We lost our Gangrel? Perhaps we should connect the next one with a merit of an outside clan and connect them to a player or two


Yes it might be easier to fold in a new player if he or she is known to one or more existing players.

Lots of opportunities for that in backgrounds, flaws & merits, etc.


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Alessandro would your friend be interested? I know that last time we had corresponded he was luke warm interested.


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

I have some home players who are not familiar with the online pbp aspect of the game but are excellent players whom I could ask as well if your first choices are not available


An easy way my old group used to do it was:

Clan Discipline
1 week x dot

Out of Clan Basic Disciplines
1 month x Dot

Clan specific (Obtenebration, Vicissitude, Protean, Serpentis, etc...)
Case by Case


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Onfroi wrote:
I have some home players who are not familiar with the online pbp aspect of the game but are excellent players whom I could ask as well if your first choices are not available

Hey Onfroi, sure poll them and see if anyone is interested in Clan Gangrel.


He might be...


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Polling the friends no answer yet bit still waiting for a few responses


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

None of my friends can take up the game so move on on recruiting, sorry


5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 26/40 | Willpower: 6/8

Just put out a feeler to one of the guys that I have been at a table with on and off for the last 23 years.

I don't think he has any PbP experience, but is a very good roleplayer.


Shadow's Status

I had someone express interest here on the boards hold off for now Lorenzo, let's see if this new one works out. I will keep him in mind if anyone else drops though! Thanks!


Shadow's Status

Updates tomorrow.


Wow! Think I got logged out... Kept seeing no updates (guest).

Hard to tell on mobile.


Traveling... Will post soon.


Sorry for my long absence I was moving homes.


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The Warlord wrote:
Sorry for my long absence I was moving homes.

That sucks glad you are back!

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Updates tomorrow.


Shadow's Status

Once my stragglers start rolling in we can start shifting towards the beginning of the Conclave Night 2 :-)


I should have mentioned before, but was at a conference... Las Vegas. First time, I didn't gamble!

Also, I should start toting a laptop again so posting should be easier.

Sorry folks! Catching up this weekend.

Taxes due, as well.


I have not asked for this yet, but those who have interacted with me at some point I have to ask how you find my character to be....

Examples:

I find Xing to be mysterious and seductive, streetwise, and jaded though not particularly evil......

I find Onfroi to be in a lot of ways a kindred spirit as Andrew is more of an introvert with extroversion a task that takes energy out of him.....

I find Ranerius to be an interesting character in a lot of ways the idea of nobility embraced in a cultured setting, unlike Andrew a minor noble of a war effected country....

I find Lorenzo to be a somewhat secretive man who uses his calling as a physician to be analytical (though very hipocritical for Andrew to say so).....

I feel like I have not gotten to interact with Michele Querini, Michael Santo and others enough to form any lasting impressions on Andrew........


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Onfroi having seen two hundred years as a mortal along with the first crusade acts like a bon vivant or someone who passes the time with fun but is indeed highly an introvert, the only thing igniting him now is competition. For all of that, Onfroi sees much as simply transient, but sees the home or castle or ones place of residence as resolute or something not to be defiled because it is the only place one is safe to be oneself.
Seeing Andrew challenging the Prince in his home made Onfroi upset with Andrew as Onfroi saw that as rude, and otherwise Onfroi wants to learn more about this new unlife to be a better competitor and sees Andrew as a serious fellow with perhaps a holy light saber lol


Shadow's Status

Updates tomorrow its getting too late to think clearly. :-)


Gangrel Blood Pool 13/10

Greetings.

I will be filling in the vacancy for a Gangrel character. I am inexperienced in this rpg set, but am eager to join in as I heard nothing but great things.


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Luca Marano wrote:

Greetings.

I will be filling in the vacancy for a Gangrel character. I am inexperienced in this rpg set, but am eager to join in as I heard nothing but great things.

Hopefully the game will meet the great grading it has warranted moving forward as well! :-) Feel free to poke around in the Campaign Info tab a lot of rules for the game in there.

And your first post is up! :-)


I keep thinking Onfroi is eventually going to get around to shooting me with his bow....


I think, I'm don with my scene, since the Assamite player is MIA still I believe.


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Sir Dunstan Füller wrote:
I think, I'm don with my scene, since the Assamite player is MIA still I believe.

Indeed, I will move you along I was thinking about doing that earlier today :-)


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:

I should have mentioned before, but was at a conference... Las Vegas. First time, I didn't gamble!

Also, I should start toting a laptop again so posting should be easier.

Sorry folks! Catching up this weekend.

Taxes due, as well.

I am a little upset that it took a roll to remember what happened in game only a 3 short years and 5,000 posts ago. :-)

Shame...


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Just an FYI, I will be busy all weekend into Monday. My last post will be tomorrow at some point and then I will be back to posting on Monday evening.

That should give some of my wayward Cainites a chance to catch up in their scenes...


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Onfroi will not be shooting you for just being rude lol


Gangrel Blood Pool 13/10

DM:

Should I be attacking or something?


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Luca Marano wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

I will be updating your scene today, baby problems last night forced me to cut my updates short.


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Palpitating x2


Shadow's Status

Page turned gents, updates on the prior page 146 I/C :-)

As you can all see, you begin to gather at the gates of Elysium together.


If it is like the last time a misnomer for sure....


Shadow's Status

I will try to update the thread tomorrow before I run my table top D&D game If not I will do the updates later in the evening.


Shadow's Status

Sorry game ran overtime will update tomorrow.


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The gang (not including NPC's) is almost all here!


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Holy smokes as close to a methuselah Alexander yikes. Best spy night ever now I just need to find a way to sneak in ince everyone goes in.


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Onfroi wrote:
Holy smokes as close to a methuselah Alexander yikes. Best spy night ever now I just need to find a way to sneak in ince everyone goes in.

In canon he is dead but as you can see from the presence of Salubri I an changing canon. :-)

When I first started running this as table top back in 2005 and Radek the Tremere was a PC, Alexander once ripped off both of Radek's arms for insolence, fun times!


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

I like the changes and I know canon inside and out. Its excellent to have Alexander here. I changed his name to Vespus and he moved to a room in New York.


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Onfroi wrote:
I like the changes and I know canon inside and out. Its excellent to have Alexander here. I changed his name to Vespus and he moved to a room in New York.

I ran Vamp close to canon once already so now I'm switching it up. Obviously what is taking place here never happened either!


How do you know?

Perhaps it did, just one of the many other secrets of history that only the elders know and some weren't even old enough to know.


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Sir Dunstan Füller wrote:

How do you know?

Perhaps it did, just one of the many other secrets of history that only the elders know and some weren't even old enough to know.

Touche'!!!


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Sir Dunstan Füller wrote:

How do you know?

Perhaps it did, just one of the many other secrets of history that only the elders know and some weren't even old enough to know.

But for the fact that Narses was dead in canon by this century :-)


Borrowed time.....


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Those true brujah and temporas...


Male Italian (Toreador)

Sorry, I've fallen behind a bit. I'll try to catch up tomorrow


No worries RB, I didn't even notice....

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