Dark Ages Vampire - Bloodlines

Game Master Dennis Harry

Bloodlines is a continuation of the now defunct table top Dark Ages Vampire game wherein the PC's have created lineal descendants throughout the ages.

Attendees seeking a seat or have a seat in the Inner Circle:

Assamite - Lord Bajazet al Nasir.

Brujah – Lady Meridie de Chancie, Lord Criatas, “Dark”Selena, Robin Leeland.

Cappadocian – Lord Benne.

Gangrel – Milov Petrankov.

Lasombra - Prince Narses the Archbishop of Nod

Malkavian – Antione le Fanu, Lutz von Hohenzollern.

Nosferatu – Cristo Petradon, Simon.

Salubri – Brian Stack.

Setites – Sadir.

Toreador – Rafael de Corazon, Francois Villon, Helene la Jouste.

Tremere - Radek, Mistress Fanchon.

Tzimisce – Myca Vykos.

Ventrue – Alyssa Gilbert, Lady Jadviga Almanov, Lanzo von Saschen, Prince Alexander.

Remember - only those listed get votes. Of course influencing their Childer can go a long way to getting a vote.

Social Combat:

Let me first thank Sir Dunstan and his excellent Game of Thrones campaign as the inspiration for this rules tweak. A shout out to Vitaliano who also does an excellent job as a player in that campaign.

Game of Thrones has a Social Combat system that, while not translatable directly, I used as inspiration for this campaign.

This is a proposed rules set and I am more than happy to hear feedback from Players before I implement it in full.

Roleplaying is still required to get your point across. However, I think a mechanical system could be beneficial for this scenario, a scenario quite unlike anything I have ever done in a Vampire game before.

Making My Case

To convince a “voter” to side with your Sire, you may roll the following set of Attributes and Abilities:

1. Against someone who is clearly NOT in your favor --- Manipulation+Subterfuge+Politics
2. Against someone who is NEUTRAL – Charisma+Expression+Politics

The difficulty of all rolls is that Cainites Willpower. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to win the contest. Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to make your case and can only attempt do so one time per night.

If you have Presence – Awe or Enrancement, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

Beware, failing in using Presence in Elysium can lead to Sanctions by Thomas Brexiano.

Also beware, Cainites may try to turn this system around on you…

But What if Someone Else Tries This on a Voter I just Brought to my Side?

Amount of successes is a key factor here, you will want to score as many success as you can to ensure that a rival does not try to take that vote from you!

Certain NPC’s already believe that others are in their favor and would never change their votes. Those will be the toughest cookies to break.

Note this system cannot be used on:

Your In-Clan rivals, no amount of sweet talking or bribes will change their minds they all want this position badly.

Prince Narses, he simply will not entertain such discourse. Of course, this does not mean you cannot try to get into the ears of one of his Childer to have them speak with him…

Discerning My Quarry’s Intent

How can I tell if someone is for or against me despite what they are saying?

Make a Perception+Empathy+Politics roll.

The difficulty is 10, less that Cainites Humanity score. Those closer to the Beast are much harder to read. For every Century over 300 years that Cainite has lived, the DC will be increased by 1, topping out at 10, as these Cainites have well and truly mastered this game to have existed for so long in the first place.

Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to ferret out their intent and can only attempt do so one time per night. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to ascertain their intent.

If you have Auspex – Read the Soul or Invade the Mind, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

How else can I make my case?

The use of Presence, while frowned upon, is much less cause for censure than using Dominate. Dominate does not work on a Cainite whose blood is closer to Caine than your own. If you seek to use Dominate to convince a voter (or perhaps one of the Childer?) to vote for your Sire, it would be best used elsewhere in the city.

Boons – the boon system of quid pro quo can also be used to gain votes. You will need to offer something of course that that voter does not have or cannot get from another candidate.

Eliminate my rivals. This one is obvious though failure to do so without detection may subject YOU to the Final Death!


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FYI Alessandro, in case you were wondering, the NPC you are now currently encountering was a PC in my former table top game from which this PBP was spawned. The player, who was controlling the Volkov's before he stopped playing in this PBP, diablerized BOTH Gesu and Michael the Archangel, fully played out as part of the Bitter Crusade module a few years back. It was quite an intense chronicle...


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

I actually typed Michael the Archangel, then erased. Didn't want to push.

Having terrified fun with it since I've got no powers.


Shadow's Status

Yes, in game you should be terrified of this creature who seems to embody multiple people each of which is likely over 1,000 years old...


Hey! All those guys are supposed to be hiding behind the scenes, trying to gain advantage for the end when they eat us all like a big bucket of pop-corn.....


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Andrew the Hardy, Lord of Moray wrote:
Hey! All those guys are supposed to be hiding behind the scenes, trying to gain advantage for the end when they eat us all like a big bucket of pop-corn.....

Oops, someone ate them already.... :-)


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I will grant all players 4 XP for excellent roleplaying in the by Day session of March 10th and for the determination to stick with an ST who posts sporadically :-)


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Most gracious...

Do you feel I should add a dot to Manipulation? From 1 to 2?

Or is Charisma + Subterfuge enough?


Shadow's Status

A manipulation bump makes sense for sure.


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Done. 4xp on Manipulation.


Shadow's Status

I have recruited a 7th player. He will be joining us this week.


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The thread has been updated for everyone.


Max Blood Pool/Current = 20/10

going to spend 4 exp to bump my willpower up to 5.


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OK, if you think it will help..... :-)


Max Blood Pool/Current = 20/10

LOL 4 willpower was kind of pathetic :)


As a side note, remember that you are still holding a number of your freebies from character generation and willpower is 1 freebie per point.


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Talomyr wrote:
As a side note, remember that you are still holding a number of your freebies from character generation and willpower is 1 freebie per point.

I have restricted Willpower increases with Freebies. Sorry if I did not note that in the Discussion thread anywhere. Willpower is too useful to be so cheap, a houserule I have had for some time....


Lord Andrew checks himself into anger management class.......


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LOL. That was pretty funny.


Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Talomyr wrote:
As a side note, remember that you are still holding a number of your freebies from character generation and willpower is 1 freebie per point.
I have restricted Willpower increases with Freebies. Sorry if I did not note that in the Discussion thread anywhere. Willpower is too useful to be so cheap, a houserule I have had for some time....

No worries. I do not recall seeing anything about that in the thread. Could you tell me what the restriction is, or is it an outright ban?


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20
Xing Shi wrote:
LOL 4 willpower was kind of pathetic :)

Could explain the company you keep... :)


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Talomyr wrote:
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Talomyr wrote:
As a side note, remember that you are still holding a number of your freebies from character generation and willpower is 1 freebie per point.
I have restricted Willpower increases with Freebies. Sorry if I did not note that in the Discussion thread anywhere. Willpower is too useful to be so cheap, a houserule I have had for some time....
No worries. I do not recall seeing anything about that in the thread. Could you tell me what the restriction is, or is it an outright ban?

Not a ban. The cost of raising Willpower is 4 per dot not 1 per dot. I will allow raising of Willpower with experience points though s the game progresses. The reason for the restriction is due to years and years of running Vampire games where players would max out on Willpower with no story rationale for it. I know, I am punishing current players for past players bad behavior but still, it is my ST policy.


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Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Talomyr wrote:
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Talomyr wrote:
As a side note, remember that you are still holding a number of your freebies from character generation and willpower is 1 freebie per point.
I have restricted Willpower increases with Freebies. Sorry if I did not note that in the Discussion thread anywhere. Willpower is too useful to be so cheap, a houserule I have had for some time....
No worries. I do not recall seeing anything about that in the thread. Could you tell me what the restriction is, or is it an outright ban?
Not a ban. The cost of raising Willpower is 4 per dot not 1 per dot. I will allow raising of Willpower with experience points though s the game progresses. The reason for the restriction is due to years and years of running Vampire games where players would max out on Willpower with no story rationale for it. I know, I am punishing current players for past players bad behavior but still, it is my ST policy.

I have known Xing for a long time outside of game, so certainly, he keeps bad company :-)


Shadow's Status

Surprisingly busy today. Will post either tonight or tomorrow.


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I will respond to your post in the evening Algar, I need to think through Grima's response some more based on your PM's....


Sure take you're time DM i am in no hurry. I just wanted you also to have an idea of the overall game plan :)


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Apologies gents, work has been busier than expected. I will probably update all threads for each of you tomorrow afternoon, at the latest Saturday afternoon.


No worries dm :)


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Been sick will post when I can.


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Feel better!


Indeed..


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Assuming work is slow tomorrow I should be able to update the thread. Xing, give me another day though to update your "new" stats.


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Thread updated.

Xing I will try to have your character update ready in the next few days to get you back in the action.


Max Blood Pool/Current = 20/10

roger wilco! Gimme a buzz this weekend if you want we can chat.


Max Blood Pool/Current = 20/10

Storyteller Shadow gave me permission to post this here. I'm currently running a Dark Heresy game that is wrapping up soon and will be starting a Black Crusade game here on these forums if anyone is interested in joining. I have 3 active players right now. If your interested let me know. Below is the link to the information page.

Black Crusade Link


Shadow's Status

I have been playing in Xing's games for a long time. The Black Crusade game should be pretty interesting I would recommend it if you like Dark Heresy/Warhammer 40K games. Michael Santo from this thread is also a player in that game.


I all already PM'ed Xing with questions :)


This is Alessandro, I'm in if you'd have me.

We first met in your 11th Hour game.


Max Blood Pool/Current = 20/10

The Black Crusade game won't be starting up until I'm done with the current DH game which will probably be 2 months or so but if your interested can start getting characters together.


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Xing Shi wrote:
The Black Crusade game won't be starting up until I'm done with the current DH game which will probably be 2 months or so but if your interested can start getting characters together.

You mean until you are done killing the current crop of Acolytes...


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Michael Santo and Andrew the Hardy, I will give you guys a few more days to post any potential reactions to the current thread you are in before I move on with Pietro's response.


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The Great Thread Migration

Clearly, I was never able to get to this in mid-May as I was hoping I would.

My plan at the moment is to try to get this done over my Christmas break.

Once I have accomplished this feat, I will let you all know.

The idea is to convert the thread (up to that point in time) to a Word Document to make it more easily searchable. I will send this document to anyone who wishes to PM me their email address. Once that is done, I will create a new thread from scratch where I will try to keep up with the migration on a more regular basis.

Because of the detail and sheer number of NPC's I have introduced it will make life easier for me and hopefully for all of you.


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Crossing Over

One of your ilk has finally crossed over into the world of the Kindred.

As the thread moves forward, more and more of you will be embraced. I hope the fact that the Embrace has been delayed in favor of the back story is ok with all of you. I suppose it must be or else I would have had a revolt by now!

That player will obviously lose time during the by Day portions of the story. As less and less of you are human, there will be less and less day time activity until this thread becomes a by Night thread. At that point I believe we will have a coterie and the more traditional playstyle of a collective group will make posting a bit easier for me and so the game will start to, I think, move at a quicker pace.

In some ways, I think the game as a PBP has made for a more robust story as you are all able to achieve individual goals which in a table top format would never be achieved, at least not in this much detail.


I am still semi-vacationing, though I did manage to get a post up....

I am hoping.......to get Fedirico's pipeweed farm purchased and run into my " missing" countryman.....


I am hoping that those who have already become don't get left out of too much of the day-time activities.

Of course I have no idea who has or hasn't been embraced.


Shadow's Status

Eventually, you will all be left out of daytime activities :-)


Shadow's Status

I will update tonight or tomorrow, sorry for the delay!


Posting this to all My Games:

I will be traveling this weekend to my vacation destination. There will be no post from me until Monday.

Please Bot me as needed.

From Sept 29 th to October 4th Expect little posting

From October 5th to October 15th Expect Next to no posting

(dunno the internet availability so i am assuming the worst case)

Thank you for your patience


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Under the weather, apologies.


Shadow's Status

No worries. Feel better, when you are a Vampire you won't get sick anymore.....


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Oh yes I will... When I eat the spicy meat-ball!

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