Dark Ages Vampire - Bloodlines (Inactive)

Game Master Dennis Harry

Bloodlines is a continuation of the now defunct table top Dark Ages Vampire game wherein the PC's have created lineal descendants throughout the ages.

Attendees seeking a seat or have a seat in the Inner Circle:

Assamite - Lord Bajazet al Nasir.

Brujah – Lady Meridie de Chancie, Lord Criatas, “Dark”Selena, Robin Leeland.

Cappadocian – Lord Benne.

Gangrel – Milov Petrankov.

Lasombra - Prince Narses the Archbishop of Nod

Malkavian – Antione le Fanu, Lutz von Hohenzollern.

Nosferatu – Cristo Petradon, Simon.

Salubri – Brian Stack.

Setites – Sadir.

Toreador – Rafael de Corazon, Francois Villon, Helene la Jouste.

Tremere - Radek, Mistress Fanchon.

Tzimisce – Myca Vykos.

Ventrue – Alyssa Gilbert, Lady Jadviga Almanov, Lanzo von Saschen, Prince Alexander.

Remember - only those listed get votes. Of course influencing their Childer can go a long way to getting a vote.

Social Combat:

Let me first thank Sir Dunstan and his excellent Game of Thrones campaign as the inspiration for this rules tweak. A shout out to Vitaliano who also does an excellent job as a player in that campaign.

Game of Thrones has a Social Combat system that, while not translatable directly, I used as inspiration for this campaign.

This is a proposed rules set and I am more than happy to hear feedback from Players before I implement it in full.

Roleplaying is still required to get your point across. However, I think a mechanical system could be beneficial for this scenario, a scenario quite unlike anything I have ever done in a Vampire game before.

Making My Case

To convince a “voter” to side with your Sire, you may roll the following set of Attributes and Abilities:

1. Against someone who is clearly NOT in your favor --- Manipulation+Subterfuge+Politics
2. Against someone who is NEUTRAL – Charisma+Expression+Politics

The difficulty of all rolls is that Cainites Willpower. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to win the contest. Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to make your case and can only attempt do so one time per night.

If you have Presence – Awe or Enrancement, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

Beware, failing in using Presence in Elysium can lead to Sanctions by Thomas Brexiano.

Also beware, Cainites may try to turn this system around on you…

But What if Someone Else Tries This on a Voter I just Brought to my Side?

Amount of successes is a key factor here, you will want to score as many success as you can to ensure that a rival does not try to take that vote from you!

Certain NPC’s already believe that others are in their favor and would never change their votes. Those will be the toughest cookies to break.

Note this system cannot be used on:

Your In-Clan rivals, no amount of sweet talking or bribes will change their minds they all want this position badly.

Prince Narses, he simply will not entertain such discourse. Of course, this does not mean you cannot try to get into the ears of one of his Childer to have them speak with him…

Discerning My Quarry’s Intent

How can I tell if someone is for or against me despite what they are saying?

Make a Perception+Empathy+Politics roll.

The difficulty is 10, less that Cainites Humanity score. Those closer to the Beast are much harder to read. For every Century over 300 years that Cainite has lived, the DC will be increased by 1, topping out at 10, as these Cainites have well and truly mastered this game to have existed for so long in the first place.

Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to ferret out their intent and can only attempt do so one time per night. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to ascertain their intent.

If you have Auspex – Read the Soul or Invade the Mind, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

How else can I make my case?

The use of Presence, while frowned upon, is much less cause for censure than using Dominate. Dominate does not work on a Cainite whose blood is closer to Caine than your own. If you seek to use Dominate to convince a voter (or perhaps one of the Childer?) to vote for your Sire, it would be best used elsewhere in the city.

Boons – the boon system of quid pro quo can also be used to gain votes. You will need to offer something of course that that voter does not have or cannot get from another candidate.

Eliminate my rivals. This one is obvious though failure to do so without detection may subject YOU to the Final Death!


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Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

If you gonna die, might as well be with style...


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Does Alessandro regain a point of Willpower from the encounter with The Ghost?

Survivalist: Regain one point of Willpower whenever you survive a threatening situation through tenacity, or when your counsel causes someone else to persist in spite of opposition.

Tenacity, threatening situation... Did Alessandro help bolster The Ghost's resolve against his masters?

Visionary: Regain a point of Willpower each time you are able to convince others to have faith in your dreams and follow the course of action dictated by your vision. Note that gaining support is the key to a Visionary regaining Willpower. Success need not come to a Visionary, at least not with every step in changing the structures in question. Her greatest successes may indeed come after her Final Death.

Gathered info, given secrets, made an "ally" (a stretch, I know)... basically possible kindred (no pun) spirit against the same machine. Of course Alessandro didn't know about the "darkness" until now, yet still protecting the people of Venice (his vision).


Shadow's Status

I will grant you a point of Willpower for bolstering Ghost against his foes - they are not his masters but he is certainly at a disadvantage against them at the moment.


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Thanks!


Shadow's Status

Everyone earns one more XP for completing a very event filled evening.

I will update the thread on Sunday morning as I need some time to look back and see what should happen next for many of you with such a long delay from the beginning to the end of the evening.


Shadow's Status

Sorry for the delay, the weekend got away from me. I will post a trickle at a time to catch up during the week.


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

What? Another 3 XP for waiting patiently... you're too kind! :)


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
What? Another 3 XP for waiting patiently... you're too kind! :)

LOL. Sorry tis not to be. Things will begin to go smoother as I have you in bunches (though you would not know it based on the last sequence).


still here.


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Just an XP whore... never mind me!


Max Blood Pool/Current = 20/10

Going to spend my 4 exp on Brawl 3.


Shadow's Status

Alrighty, note that on your sheet along with the XP allocation.


Shadow's Status

FYI. In the next month or so I will attempt to build out some more of all of your close acquaintances (like employees and what not) so that we have a better frame of reference for who is who.


Dennis... how much total xp have you given out so far? Just want to make sure I didn't miss any of your xp posts.


Shadow's Status

I would have to check, I have not given out XP in a while. We have been moving slowly and I don;t want to give out TOO much XP this early on. Once the entire group is more cohesive and we move through days and nights quicker I can give more XP.


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Is this everyone level together or independent leveling? I obviously joined later so... Lagging, power-level wise. Not asking for handouts, just wondering.


Shadow's Status

Well Vamp was always a bit different from an XP perspective than other games. XP is not spent on levels but on individual statistics. The more XP you get allows you to buy more but that does not necessarily create a discrepancy in power levels. There are so many stats to spend XP on that it really depends on your approach - you can be a social or a combat monster whatever you prefer.

You did not come into the game very late at all really. The rest of the players have 4-7 more XP than you.

Also, from time to time I do give out bonus awards by PM only.

After the end of this day and night I will award further XP.

I know the pace is slow right now (which of course slows down the awarding of XP) but I am essentially running 7 different game at the moment. I don't feel the need to be rushed so if you all don't mind the pace I don't mind :-)


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Definitely wasn't rushing.


5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 29/40 | Willpower: 8/8

Just a heads up. My posting will be spottier than usual for the next week as I will be on vacation with my family and may not always have internet access.


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Lorenzo Cappelli wrote:
Just a heads up. My posting will be spottier than usual for the next week as I will be on vacation with my family and may not always have internet access.

Not a problem, Dr. Cappelli is spending a nice day enjoying the city so he will have some more downtime at the moment :-)

Enjoy the vacation!


Shadow's Status

FYI the wife is going in tomorrow to induce labor. As a result I will be unavailable for the next week or so.

When I return we will move to the late afternoon of the current day (which should move relatively quickly) and then into the evening.


congratulations there sir. The time has come for you to raise the next gen of GM's. Enjoy and God Bless


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Yes, congrats and best wishes. And, apologies of course... for the sleep deprivation.


Shadow's Status

I will update the thread tomorrow morning once I have had a chance to re-read the thread!


Shadow's Status

Sorry baby has been keeping me busy. Tomorrow night should be free for me to update.


no problems.


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Don't try to do too much... focus on mommy and baby. Just survive, man!


Shadow's Status

Baby it seems hates Vampires!

I will get new posts up when I can, hopefully sooner rather than later.


Shadow's Status

I sent Private Messages to all of you. Please review them and let me know if I missed anything.

If not I will post updates within the next few days.

I will also attempt to fil in some NPC oles for some of you as you have been meeting with NPCs I have yet to name!


Shadow's Status

If no one else has any issues related to their Private Messages I will start up the game thread again either tonight or tomorrow. Need to put some prep time into my table top D&D game as well so it will be a busy weekend considering I will be at work for another 6 hours still today!


Shadow's Status

Success! I have finally update the thread. I want to do a bit more work on background details but that will have to wait a few weeks. In the meantime the plot can continue without some details which are not specific to the story.


Shadow's Status

I know that some of you have a hard time posting on a day to day basis. To keep the campaign moving I may begin to DMPC some of your characters. Many DM's on the Paizo boards do this as PBP games move at a crawl to begin with. From now on I will give people 72 hours to respond to a post, after that I will advance the plot forward.

I know that I have had absences as well but I don;t want the game to get too bogged down, especially once you all start forming a more cohesive group. I swaer that night is coming!

I am hoping you are all enjoying the pacing and the intracicy of the plot thus far.


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Sweet!


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Danger at the door step... Is that my cue?


Shadow's Status

@ Alessandro - not yet. But soon!


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

I was kidding, as I'd doubt Alessandro would be deemed dangerous.

But associating with him might get you killed!


I should spend some of those XP points instead of just hoarding them like an XP miser.......


Shadow's Status

Well Andrew I am not sure I agree. As a player I would save them up to spend as a Vampire :-)

However, you can spend them if you wish to, many players have already. If you do just track how much you spent and what you spent them on.


Shadow's Status

@ Alessandro, you are quite dangerous, I am sure soon I will be looking to kill you :-)


Storyteller Shadow wrote:

Well Andrew I am not sure I agree. As a player I would save them up to spend as a Vampire :-)

I am thinking the same thing, maybe catches on to a clan discipline a bit more quickly than average.

Still feeling miserly.


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Can I have more XP, I wanna be miserly. :)


Shadow's Status
Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Can I have more XP, I wanna be miserly. :)

Soon you too shall feel miserly :-)


Shadow's Status

New posts for the evening are up! Once this night is concluded (it may be a long one as there is a lot that will take place) I will award XP.

As many of you can see, despite the fact that the player controlling the Volkov's is no longer with us the trouble that his characters are causing remains :-)


What is the xp cost for that?

Internet says current rating *7
....that could have been a houserule.


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Shadow's Status

I will houserule this myself. For dots 2-5 5x current rating. 6-10 7x current rating.


OK spent 5 points and raised from 1 to 2.


Feel like I have already turned nocturnal......


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Gotta be careful with the Premature Evacuation.


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Ay, chihuahua! Alessandro guess right? Dang... I hadn't been reading the other threads.


Shadow's Status

Did heguess right? Hard to say....

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