Dark Ages Vampire - Bloodlines (Inactive)

Game Master Dennis Harry

Bloodlines is a continuation of the now defunct table top Dark Ages Vampire game wherein the PC's have created lineal descendants throughout the ages.

Attendees seeking a seat or have a seat in the Inner Circle:

Assamite - Lord Bajazet al Nasir.

Brujah – Lady Meridie de Chancie, Lord Criatas, “Dark”Selena, Robin Leeland.

Cappadocian – Lord Benne.

Gangrel – Milov Petrankov.

Lasombra - Prince Narses the Archbishop of Nod

Malkavian – Antione le Fanu, Lutz von Hohenzollern.

Nosferatu – Cristo Petradon, Simon.

Salubri – Brian Stack.

Setites – Sadir.

Toreador – Rafael de Corazon, Francois Villon, Helene la Jouste.

Tremere - Radek, Mistress Fanchon.

Tzimisce – Myca Vykos.

Ventrue – Alyssa Gilbert, Lady Jadviga Almanov, Lanzo von Saschen, Prince Alexander.

Remember - only those listed get votes. Of course influencing their Childer can go a long way to getting a vote.

Social Combat:

Let me first thank Sir Dunstan and his excellent Game of Thrones campaign as the inspiration for this rules tweak. A shout out to Vitaliano who also does an excellent job as a player in that campaign.

Game of Thrones has a Social Combat system that, while not translatable directly, I used as inspiration for this campaign.

This is a proposed rules set and I am more than happy to hear feedback from Players before I implement it in full.

Roleplaying is still required to get your point across. However, I think a mechanical system could be beneficial for this scenario, a scenario quite unlike anything I have ever done in a Vampire game before.

Making My Case

To convince a “voter” to side with your Sire, you may roll the following set of Attributes and Abilities:

1. Against someone who is clearly NOT in your favor --- Manipulation+Subterfuge+Politics
2. Against someone who is NEUTRAL – Charisma+Expression+Politics

The difficulty of all rolls is that Cainites Willpower. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to win the contest. Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to make your case and can only attempt do so one time per night.

If you have Presence – Awe or Enrancement, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

Beware, failing in using Presence in Elysium can lead to Sanctions by Thomas Brexiano.

Also beware, Cainites may try to turn this system around on you…

But What if Someone Else Tries This on a Voter I just Brought to my Side?

Amount of successes is a key factor here, you will want to score as many success as you can to ensure that a rival does not try to take that vote from you!

Certain NPC’s already believe that others are in their favor and would never change their votes. Those will be the toughest cookies to break.

Note this system cannot be used on:

Your In-Clan rivals, no amount of sweet talking or bribes will change their minds they all want this position badly.

Prince Narses, he simply will not entertain such discourse. Of course, this does not mean you cannot try to get into the ears of one of his Childer to have them speak with him…

Discerning My Quarry’s Intent

How can I tell if someone is for or against me despite what they are saying?

Make a Perception+Empathy+Politics roll.

The difficulty is 10, less that Cainites Humanity score. Those closer to the Beast are much harder to read. For every Century over 300 years that Cainite has lived, the DC will be increased by 1, topping out at 10, as these Cainites have well and truly mastered this game to have existed for so long in the first place.

Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to ferret out their intent and can only attempt do so one time per night. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to ascertain their intent.

If you have Auspex – Read the Soul or Invade the Mind, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

How else can I make my case?

The use of Presence, while frowned upon, is much less cause for censure than using Dominate. Dominate does not work on a Cainite whose blood is closer to Caine than your own. If you seek to use Dominate to convince a voter (or perhaps one of the Childer?) to vote for your Sire, it would be best used elsewhere in the city.

Boons – the boon system of quid pro quo can also be used to gain votes. You will need to offer something of course that that voter does not have or cannot get from another candidate.

Eliminate my rivals. This one is obvious though failure to do so without detection may subject YOU to the Final Death!


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Not a problem, found the post and answered.


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Welcome to the ranks of the dead Adria! A bit of soul is a small price to pay for a slow slide into the beast for all eternity...


Male Italian (Toreador) Bloodpool 25? out of 40
Onfroi wrote:
Welcome to the ranks of the dead Adria! A bit of soul is a small price to pay for a slow slide into the beast for all eternity...

But we do have cookies....

most of us can't eat them, but we do have them ;)


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

When there are conversations between vamps 2 or more generations more powerful than you going on...

Kinda hard to interject.

And, maybe I'm dense... But, they haven't said anything that indicates anything yet (in the current situation).

Nothing that clarifies, it's just more convoluted and treacherous. So... Silence is in order.


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:

When there are conversations between vamps 2 or more generations more powerful than you going on...

Kinda hard to interject.

And, maybe I'm dense... But, they haven't said anything that indicates anything yet (in the current situation).

Nothing that clarifies, it's just more convoluted and treacherous. So... Silence is in order.

:-)


Shadow's Status

Will update tonight been having problems with the site due to the bundle...


Shadow's Status

With only two more PC's to complete this night, I will be awarding XP now.

2 more XP for each of you, this is the first XP Adria has earned :-)

As I will have little time to get to new updates this week, I will update the game on Saturday March 5th. IN the meantime, I will finalize the characters of Adria and Michael Santo now that they are Vampires.

The rest of the Conclave nights will go a bit quicker than the first night :-)

How is everyone enjoying the Campaign thus far?

Dark Archive

It's got me hooked. Never been a vampire before! Come here, let me taste you...*licks fangs*


Shadow's Status

Let me know if any of you wish to spend XP.


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

In liking it very much, just in a sequence where is best to observe.

Also, not sure how combat will work. Seems a bad choice.


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:

In liking it very much, just in a sequence where is best to observe.

Also, not sure how combat will work. Seems a bad choice.

Agreed, some of these scenes are more for you to gain knowledge of the plot or the past which effects the plot.

Combat is best to fall back on as a last resort to be sure.

Alessandro:
Based on the conversation the prior night: (1) you cannot be sure that Sebastian came out to play, and (2) you had a few of your goons looking for Katriana, its been a while since you checked in on them...


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Storyteller Shadow:
Very funny. Yes and yes. Just being modest. I remembered M&M but, figured no need to mention to anybody at this time... Built some mystique.


5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 29/40 | Willpower: 8/8
Storyteller Shadow wrote:


How is everyone enjoying the Campaign thus far?

Thus far I have greatly enjoyed the campaign. Thank you for continuing to run it.

I think one of the things that I enjoy most is how the nature of PbP really lends itself to keeping scenes separate, yet keeping all of the characters engaged in a way that can be difficult sitting around the table.


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Lorenzo Cappelli wrote:
Storyteller Shadow wrote:


How is everyone enjoying the Campaign thus far?

Thus far I have greatly enjoyed the campaign. Thank you for continuing to run it.

I think one of the things that I enjoy most is how the nature of PbP really lends itself to keeping scenes separate, yet keeping all of the characters engaged in a way that can be difficult sitting around the table.

Agree 100%.

It has been over 4 years now and I think the game is still going strong despite some Player comings and goings.

Thank you for continuing to play in it! I need to send you a PM Lorenzo regarding early evening lessons, will probably get that out to you today.


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

I am the story teller for my local group and ran two seperate campaigns for five years each. I love this game and although a late addition hope I am adding in well.


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Onfroi wrote:
I am the story teller for my local group and ran two seperate campaigns for five years each. I love this game and although a late addition hope I am adding in well.

I think your exchange with Andrew was great during a pretty tense moment so I would say a big yes.

What era did you run for the locals?


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

I ran dark ages transylvania chronicles through the giovanni chronicles to present day. I had three ancient ventrue brothers one named Vespus, Marlenus, and Bellvue. Marlenus was a political roman and the group met him several times and made a deal to work for him and during the work it looked like they would fail and he had a lair with a pair of really old mastiff dogs and he looked up through his lashes and crushed one of their heads and told the group "you are my lead dogs now, prey you do better..."


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Onfroi wrote:
I ran dark ages transylvania chronicles through the giovanni chronicles to present day. I had three ancient ventrue brothers one named Vespus, Marlenus, and Bellvue. Marlenus was a political roman and the group met him several times and made a deal to work for him and during the work it looked like they would fail and he had a lair with a pair of really old mastiff dogs and he looked up through his lashes and crushed one of their heads and told the group "you are my lead dogs now, prey you do better..."

Nice, I also ran the Transylvania Chronicles and Giovanni Chronicles II and III. I was not a fan of Giovanni Chronicles IV.

I started the campaign in 1190 and ran it through 2001. It ran for about 5 1/2 years. From this game, Xing played in a bit of it while Michele played through 95% of it.

I started another Vampire game, the one which this Chronicle is based on, in 1065. Much of the fallout in this Chronicle stems from those games. Xing and Michele played in those with Michael Santo having come a bit late to those sessions.

The plan is for this game to jump through each Century with snapshots of time through modern day. This particular incarnation is taking a bot longer than I thought it would but it will set up much of what takes place in the coming centuries.


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

I modified part iv significantly for my uses the skeleton of a bit of it remaining but the rest coming to a reclusive Tremere on the outskirts of new york on an island named Brovald, who was actually Lasombra in hiding


Male Italian (Toreador) Bloodpool 25? out of 40

I have, if my math is right, 4 exp total. Not sure how to spend it. The power gamer in me says "DISCIPLINES" the more practical less glory seeking side says things like abilities might make more sense. :)

And Onfroi, I think your character is quite entertaining, and he's not alone. Even when I'm not up, I often find some pretty cool bits to read for my enjoyment.

Storyteller Shadow, since you ask, I am indeed enjoying (See above). I have my doubts about how effective Ranerius is in his political pursuits, but then the character IS, for all intents and purposes, a small fish in a rather large shark infested sea. ;) And it's been interesting to see how the roleplaying so far has helped shape and fill him out in ways I didn't see coming.

I'm kind of glad combat doesn't seem to be the chief activity, because I'm pretty sure most of the PCs and ALL of the Elders could stake and bake my Innkeeper before he could say "Now my friends, let's be reasona....urk!" ;)


Shadow's Status

It may be more than 4 XP for the full night, anyone have a different count?

Adria will have 2 as she just joined us.

Effective thus far I would say but there are still 6 nights to go :-)

There will be combat at some point just not yet so spend that XP wisely!


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Hmmm...what's it cost for politics 1 to 2?

This has been quite fun thus far and it'll be rather strange to see the jumps. I am quite happy to do a little here and there and see how Vitaliano devolves into madness over time. So far there hasn't been too many stressors to really push myself to spring his issues into action.

Don't worry Ranerius, while Vitaliano may be in his element so to speak...it can all really turn capside for him in a heartbeat. And you won't be the only one with issues in combat...~shudder~ Uncivilized cretins


Shadow's Status

2 XP for Politics 2.


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Wunderbar consider it spent ^^


Shadow's Status

Sorry gents long weekend with the baby and I still was feeling under the weather.

Will have updates ready either Tuesday or Wednesday night.


I haven't spent any XP, might want to look at my social stuff...


hello;

Construction is being done on my Street si phone and internet are done until friday

please bot me as needed


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

At the risk of being the weakest vamp in the game, I'll continue character development.

2 pts, Subterfuge 2


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:

At the risk of being the weakest vamp in the game, I'll continue character development.

2 pts, Subterfuge 2

You are a bunch of Neonates, you are all weak :-)


Shadow's Status

Work has been rough having missed all of last week being sick. I have a short day on Friday. I will pick things up for everyone that day. Sorry for the delay.

Dark Archive

I should be able to get my character updated tomorrow morning. Will PM you my merit/flaw proposals, Gm.


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Ghost is Nosferatu?


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Ghost is Nosferatu?

Yep.


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Ranerius I am at your inn downstairs telling people I am there to visit you


Male Italian (Toreador) Bloodpool 25? out of 40
Onfroi wrote:
Ranerius I am at your inn downstairs telling people I am there to visit you

I apologize.

I missed that completely. I'll try to correct that.


Shadow's Status

Work has been brutal this week. Updates tomorrow.

Dark Archive

Yeah I'm getting slammed too. All of a sudden Budgets are approved and spring money is available. Silly capitalism!


I'm sorry for slow posting, but I have the last week of masters and starting to move houses starting sunday.


Shadow's Status

Losing steam here folks sorry updates will have to wait until tomorrow. :-(


Shadow's Status

Sorry for all of the delays folks back to posting now.


Male Italian (Toreador) Bloodpool 25? out of 40

Heh. Just made a post myself. Didn't see you had started until now (connection is taking forever for me)


Shadow's Status

Nice job moving things along Onfroi and Ranerius, I will update both of you tomorrow.


I was waiting on the Assamite player or NPC's lol


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Sir Dunstan Füller wrote:
I was waiting on the Assamite player or NPC's lol

Yep my bad there last week was a b+#!+. Will post further updates tomorrow.


Shadow's Status

Updates tomorrow. Holy shit did I get behind in a number of my games, damn busy work schedule.


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Did I miss my cue (very possible)?

Is Alessandro with Alyssa or or looking for M & M?


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:

Did I miss my cue (very possible)?

Is Alessandro with Alyssa or or looking for M & M?

Alesandro:
Sat, Mar 12, 2016, 01:29 am

Venice by Night – Tuesday March 25, 1309
Alessandro Khadaji – Khadaji Household

You wake and Alyssa is not in your arms she is standing in the window looking out into the sea.

”You are awake my Love? Good. I have considered what you said last night, you must look for the woman, I will find the Nosferatu for you. Then we shall meet back here and head to tonight’s Conclave. Is this acceptable to you?”


Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

I read that, but spazzed and thought it was before sleep.

Dark Archive

Guys, we got the flu at my house. Kids dropping one by one over the last few days. I hope to be back Tuesday or Wednesday.


Shadow's Status

There are no rules on how long it should take to learn a Discipline. Therefore I think I will create a simple system for this. Will work on it I/C with Lorenzo and finalize it when I have some time.

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