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Dark Ages Vampire - Bloodlines (Inactive)

Game Master Dennis Harry

Bloodlines is a continuation of the now defunct table top Dark Ages Vampire game wherein the PC's have created lineal descendants throughout the ages.

Attendees seeking a seat or have a seat in the Inner Circle:

Assamite - Lord Bajazet al Nasir.

Brujah – Lady Meridie de Chancie, Lord Criatas, “Dark”Selena, Robin Leeland.

Cappadocian – Lord Benne.

Gangrel – Milov Petrankov.

Lasombra - Prince Narses the Archbishop of Nod

Malkavian – Antione le Fanu, Lutz von Hohenzollern.

Nosferatu – Cristo Petradon, Simon.

Salubri – Brian Stack.

Setites – Sadir.

Toreador – Rafael de Corazon, Francois Villon, Helene la Jouste.

Tremere - Radek, Mistress Fanchon.

Tzimisce – Myca Vykos.

Ventrue – Alyssa Gilbert, Lady Jadviga Almanov, Lanzo von Saschen, Prince Alexander.

Remember - only those listed get votes. Of course influencing their Childer can go a long way to getting a vote.

Social Combat:

Let me first thank Sir Dunstan and his excellent Game of Thrones campaign as the inspiration for this rules tweak. A shout out to Vitaliano who also does an excellent job as a player in that campaign.

Game of Thrones has a Social Combat system that, while not translatable directly, I used as inspiration for this campaign.

This is a proposed rules set and I am more than happy to hear feedback from Players before I implement it in full.

Roleplaying is still required to get your point across. However, I think a mechanical system could be beneficial for this scenario, a scenario quite unlike anything I have ever done in a Vampire game before.

Making My Case

To convince a “voter” to side with your Sire, you may roll the following set of Attributes and Abilities:

1. Against someone who is clearly NOT in your favor --- Manipulation+Subterfuge+Politics
2. Against someone who is NEUTRAL – Charisma+Expression+Politics

The difficulty of all rolls is that Cainites Willpower. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to win the contest. Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to make your case and can only attempt do so one time per night.

If you have Presence – Awe or Enrancement, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

Beware, failing in using Presence in Elysium can lead to Sanctions by Thomas Brexiano.

Also beware, Cainites may try to turn this system around on you…

But What if Someone Else Tries This on a Voter I just Brought to my Side?

Amount of successes is a key factor here, you will want to score as many success as you can to ensure that a rival does not try to take that vote from you!

Certain NPC’s already believe that others are in their favor and would never change their votes. Those will be the toughest cookies to break.

Note this system cannot be used on:

Your In-Clan rivals, no amount of sweet talking or bribes will change their minds they all want this position badly.

Prince Narses, he simply will not entertain such discourse. Of course, this does not mean you cannot try to get into the ears of one of his Childer to have them speak with him…

Discerning My Quarry’s Intent

How can I tell if someone is for or against me despite what they are saying?

Make a Perception+Empathy+Politics roll.

The difficulty is 10, less that Cainites Humanity score. Those closer to the Beast are much harder to read. For every Century over 300 years that Cainite has lived, the DC will be increased by 1, topping out at 10, as these Cainites have well and truly mastered this game to have existed for so long in the first place.

Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to ferret out their intent and can only attempt do so one time per night. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to ascertain their intent.

If you have Auspex – Read the Soul or Invade the Mind, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

How else can I make my case?

The use of Presence, while frowned upon, is much less cause for censure than using Dominate. Dominate does not work on a Cainite whose blood is closer to Caine than your own. If you seek to use Dominate to convince a voter (or perhaps one of the Childer?) to vote for your Sire, it would be best used elsewhere in the city.

Boons – the boon system of quid pro quo can also be used to gain votes. You will need to offer something of course that that voter does not have or cannot get from another candidate.

Eliminate my rivals. This one is obvious though failure to do so without detection may subject YOU to the Final Death!


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Shadow's Status

One more thing on Roads

The default is Road of Humanity. However, you may adopt any Road this first week of the Conclave that suits your fancy. Each will be introduced in turn on each night.

The next set of nights will go faster than this first one! No more introductions. Just motions suggested and then onto the hard core political dealings to get your guy elected!
Shadow's Status

Updates Tuesday night, need to get my 3 way PvP star wars game off the ground tomorrow night.
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Crap, to late to expend willpower?

Meant to reply, but crazy storm weekend in NY.
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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:

Crap, to late to expend willpower?

Meant to reply, but crazy storm weekend in NY.

Tell me about it, f@$~ing snow was awful!

Nope, if you want to you can expend the 1 Willpower. I will not retcon the post as your Humanity is high so you would feel a crisis of Conscience but you do not lose the Willpower point.
Dark Archive

Uh, so now i feel pretty dumb this morning as Google tells me that "Roma" is another word for Gypsy. Not a name. So. Oops. Sorry shadow...
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Adria Darkling wrote:
Uh, so now i feel pretty dumb this morning as Google tells me that "Roma" is another word for Gypsy. Not a name. So. Oops. Sorry shadow...

Quite alright, I should have been more clear, I assumed you knew something you may not necessarily have known!

Male Italian (Toreador) Bloodpool 25? out of 40

I picture Ranerius as trying to hold onto his humanity very hard, but he may yet become a jaded deviant as the decades pass. Classic Toreador sort of decline as he starts to see beautiful women, even his wife, as pretty toys to put on display etc
Shadow's Status

Will give another day for the others in the main group to post responses before moving on to the final scene at Court for the evening!

Going to hit our side session friends now though :-)
Shadow's Status

Update tomorrow! Still giving some thought to the next scene and I don't want to rush it!
Shadow's Status

Sorry folks the end of the week got very heave at work. Updates are in process!!!
Shadow's Status

More updates Tuesday a 14 hour day tomorrow at work will keep me from posting all day.
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More updates tomorrow fading over here...
Max Blood Pool/Current = 20/10

Storyteller Shadow gave me thumbs up to post a recruitment post for my upcoming MiniSix Dark Sun game. Just looking for 2 more players +Dennis for this game. MiniSix is a very easy system to use and I created custom rules for Dark Sun Setting.

MiniSix Dark Sun

Let me know if your interested.
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Xing Shi wrote:

Storyteller Shadow gave me thumbs up to post a recruitment post for my upcoming MiniSix Dark Sun game. Just looking for 2 more players +Dennis for this game. MiniSix is a very easy system to use and I created custom rules for Dark Sun Setting.

MiniSix Dark Sun

Let me know if your interested.

Damn poachers....

Damn you temptress!!!!

I am weak to resist.....but I must!!!
Max Blood Pool/Current = 20/10

The dragon demands your sacrifices!
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Forgive my question, but when you guys say "DC7" you mean you must roll at least one of your dice a 7,8,9 or 10 in your pool to succeed, correct? I've read the WoD core book and totally get the dicepool mechanic, but "DC" doesn't appear:(
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Adria Darkling wrote:
Forgive my question, but when you guys say "DC7" you mean you must roll at least one of your dice a 7,8,9 or 10 in your pool to succeed, correct? I've read the WoD core book and totally get the dicepool mechanic, but "DC" doesn't appear:(

Correct! :-)

Each roll equal to or above that number is a success.

Over the weekend I should FINALLY be able to send you a PM regarding the finishing touches for your character, how are you enjoying gameplay thus far?
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I love it! Dark and creepy, totally my style. I'm looking forward to delving deep into this story, Thank you for the invite Shadow!

I suddenly feel like Forest Gump...that's all I've got to say about that.....
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It was a nice speech :)
Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

I really was trying to save you Andrew

I was trying to get the right balance for me. I considered going along with Brian....but I just couldn't do it....

Thanks!.
I worked on that speech... Trying to get it just right....I'm sure if I read it tomorrow it will seem not as good....

I can see that an arrow is survivable.
Male Italian (Toreador) Bloodpool 25? out of 40

Well, this might be enough to scare a Toreador to the road of heaven yet ;)

Who knew that was coming???
Dark Archive

What is it? An archangel?? Haha you guys are all toast!
Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Its high level domination
Max Blood Pool/Current = 20/10

wesa think wesa people gonna die?
Shadow's Status

I will update tomorrow night, have to be up early for work tomorrow.
Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Thinking about it longer I wonder where the Ravenos is? Chimestry could definately do this and its right up their alley to do this crazy stuff
Onfroi wrote:
Thinking about it longer I wonder where the Ravenos is? Chimestry could definately do this and its right up their alley to do this crazy stuff

Spoiler:

AsI understand it there are Ravenos around, but not the Ravenos...he was eaten....by Tremere...

The Salubri is still around....


But no one talks about it!!!
Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Durga syn was at this shindig and she is a ravnos and the tremere then also have that insane discipline...

Post tenebras lux...after darkness, light

; )

if nothing else every fledgling is rethinking what his or her sire told them about Salubri.....
Shadow's Status

Full update tomorrow night!
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Will finish more updates as the day progresses!
Male Italian (Toreador) Bloodpool 25? out of 40

Wow. that recap post took almost an hour to write. Whew.

Nice time I think I'll just post something like
Ranerius fills him in ;)
Dark Archive

And ALWAYS ctrl+C something like that before you hit SUBMIT POST!!! Some of my best prose is lost to history because I forgot to do that a time or two;)
Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Wait...Prince Alexander of the Venture is snatching me up in his plotting is this what is happening?
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Vitaliano da Riva wrote:
Wait...Prince Alexander of the Venture is snatching me up in his plotting is this what is happening?

So it seems... :-)

Shadow's Status

Full updates tonight.
Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Gasp Ranerius knows my secret... two can keep a secret if one of them is dead.
Lol...just kidding(mostly) I love this game!
Male Italian (Toreador) Bloodpool 25? out of 40

Ha. Actually, Ranerius trusts Onfroi well enough (Though he doesn't know him he doesn't automatically distrust him), it's the elders that make him paranoid... every time he hears about Nosferatu elders, it's stressed how they already know everything. Eeek
Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

I was thinking Ranerius and Onfroi might know each other from Onfroi's time as a ghoul for the clan actually if you would like to play it that way.
Male Italian (Toreador) Bloodpool 25? out of 40

If Ranerius knew of Onfroi as a ghoul to the Clan, he probably made sure the guy got free drinks at La Serenata Notturna, and discounts on rooms at his inn. After all, Ranerius wife is a ghoul too.
Shadow's Status

I would like to try and close out this night within the next week if possible!
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I will update for Alessandro and Michele tomorrow night.

I'll be away on a ski trip (probably no internet connection) for a full week.

Has lady Meridie ever told me what she wanted and if we left or not? I seems to have missed it if indeed was posted.
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Sir Dunstan Füller wrote:
Has lady Meridie ever told me what she wanted and if we left or not? I seems to have missed it if indeed was posted.

There was a general mass exodus after the event.

Lady Meridie keeps what she wants close to the vest, even from you :-)
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