Wow, ok caught up on the miniseries. If I could have caught that on Netflix it would have been much easier! Speaking of, what famous actor plays your character in our show?!
Oh and - WOOT LEVEL TWO! Did not expect that, I'll get on that tonight.
Just a clarification that Tal actually prefers the ambush method but said in the ooc post on the previous page that if the rest of the group is ok with the bluff method he will go along with it.
Hope things calm down for you soon Mera.
Just a clarification that Tal actually prefers the ambush method but said in the ooc post on the previous page that if the rest of the group is ok with the bluff method he will go along with it.
Naberius is likewise open to the idea, if the others want to give it a shot. He would not accompany Raveen, however. Regardless of the plan, he would rather wait for the convoy with Tal , ready to enlarge him for the ambush. I think that is the eventual outcome, regardless of which plan we choose, right...?
Speaking of, what famous actor plays your character in our show?!
Hmm, that's an interesting question. Adrien Brody, perhaps? He has the right look and voice for Naberius, I think. Overall, I based his character more on Peter Cushing as Frankenstein in the old Hammer Films horror movies. He is a true master of the 'sinister aristocrat' trope. Naberius is younger than he was then, though, and far less cadaverous.
Still thinking of the famous actor btw.
Still thinking of the famous actor btw.
What's Tal look like?
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So no one wants to risk their lives and possible afterlives going after the most ballsy plan there is?
...entirely reasonable.
Anyway, I hope Mera comes with on the Face Plan. I'd actually prefer Tal to accompany Raveen, since his muscular structure certainly qualifies him for guard duty--and his proximity will make it easier for Naberius to shoot out and throw an Enlarge Person. He will be able to threaten so much space quickly as Mera and Raveen make their moves.
But Naberius, you're correct; at both points there will be a force under the bridge--it doesn't matter if they are the Lions in the Ambush Plan or the support in the Face Plan.
There has to be a light force to push down the cart from atop the hill, and Janiven and Vitti (maybe even Morosimo) will be it--hopefully they can follow up with a charge or ranged weapons.
@Casters: Mera, Naberius, Monday? Any backup on the skill check/magic houserules? I feel we're going to need them.
1: Roll Bluff to disguise Verbal/Sleight of Hand to disguise Somatic components to get a spell fired without being noticed.
2: Metamagic feats work in reverse to lower spell level. Damage cap, DC, and effects like monster type summoned scale with spell level, so there will not be that big of an issue with balance.
Because with the odds of our little group in an urban campaign facing a Hell-backed throne, we might need some subterfuge-friendly houserules. Most of said houserules have precedent in 3.5, so they are not that far from D&D tradition.
@Actors: I have no idea which actor would be appropriate for Raveen. I haven't watched that many moves to draw inspiration from.
I've described him as somewhat of a shady, multi-talented, black-haired, fair-skinned trickster. Any ideas?
So no one wants to risk their lives and possible afterlives going after the most ballsy plan there is?
...entirely reasonable.
Of course, splitting the party is hardly ever advisable. We still haven't got a straight answer from Mera and Monday, so that would likely settle the matter. Naberius really doesn't want to go near the Hellknights. If Team Face fails, and we get unlucky on initiative, it could get ugly. Naberius has some skills that might aid in the mission, but overall he is unused to subterfuge, and really on edge right now. He might jeopardize the mission by acting out of turn in his nervousness. If you insist on dragging him along, he might yield. I suppose that where Tal goes, he goes.
@Casters: Mera, Naberius, Monday? Any backup on the skill check/magic houserules? I feel we're going to need them.
There are already things within the rules that are meant for these purposes, such as many metamagic feats and spells like illusion of calm. Mera might want to grab Spellsong, if she hasn't already. I am always wary of adding houserules where none are needed, or when they would make other parts of the game unfeasible. Naberius is not meant to be entirely subtle, so I don't feel the need for any extra boosts. I'm not exactly short on feats, either...
So no one wants to risk their lives and possible afterlives going after the most ballsy plan there is?
Not Mera. She's here, but she's not fully committed yet and she's unsure what to do at the moment.
Mera might want to grab Spellsong, if she hasn't already.
Good choice! Mera already has Spellsong, I thought it fit nicely as well.
Ditto, most of this is going over Monday's head.
So what do we do?! PANIC!
What? Nah.
*passss through Nabe*
Now PANIC!
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Well, I'm mostly waiting for your in-character votes and the GM's input. Raveen is ready (and once everyone votes) in his position. I take it that setting up traps would be a Survival check.
I'm saddened by the fact that Face Plan is not popular.
However, it's not good to think of the forgeries as wasted checks: Perhaps planting the forgeries in the scene of the crime would make the Hellknight's paranoia kick up. Knowing them, they would withhold mention of this to the Dottari, and would distrust them--or at least suspect of a splinter group within their ranks. Raveen can exploit that.
We will need some downtime after this mission to lay low and establish alibis. Although I doubt Naberius wants to leave the base already.
I'm saddened by the fact that Face Plan is not popular.
It's a good plan. Were I playing a more risk-taking, socially oriented character, I would be right there with you! :)
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I'm saddened by the fact that Face Plan is not popular.It's a good plan. Were I playing a more risk-taking, socially oriented character, I would be right there with you! :)
I'm actually concerned of how well Arael will come out of this. The initial trap shot by the cart+alchemical fire would hopefully overturn the wagon Arael is in and take out a few Hellknights--but it will probably also set the whole thing on fire.
Nothing that we can't handle; guy is a cleric after all. Besides--Hellknights should be more receptive to heat-based attacks.
@GM: Can Mera roll Bluff to disguise Verbal/Sleight of Hand to disguise Somatic components to get a spell fired without them noticing?
Yes, but the bluff would have to be very high if you are going to work an incantation into normal speech.
@GM: 2: And are you familiar with the metamagic spell modification parameters houserule sub-system in Kirthfinder? It's awesome, and is quite painless to implement. It's under the Metamagic sub-title in the following document.
Not familiar with it, but would be willing to try it.
So what is the final vote? Operation: Face or Operation: Muscle.
Naberius votes for Muscle.
Muscle says the guy with 20 strength.
Any spell casters able to prepare create water incase the cart explodes? Still not sure how well this will work to keep Areal from ending up in a barbeque but we will see.
Votes for Muscle as well.
And I don't have Create Water but I do have Cure Light Wounds.
Tuesday votes for the Muscle plan.
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ahhh I wanted Tuesday to try and be the face along with Raveen.
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I don't think I've ever seen him in anything, but he certainly has the right look. :)
*purrs*
Just surrounded more and more by all the sexiness!
With my limited movie watching experience I am going to have to go with Russell Crowe in Gladiator.
Somehow none of my 2 and 5 year old daughter's movies seem to have any appropriate characters with the right vibe.
With my limited movie watching experience I am going to have to go with Russell Crowe in Gladiator.
Hmm, he can pull off the 'everyman' pretty well, but I don't think he's ever been quite buff enough to fit the part. With Strength score of 20, he'd have to be huge.
I now have 'buff blonde actors' in my search history, and I didn't even come up with anything fitting! :P
Naberius doesn't care all that much in character. I'm fine with it. :)
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With my limited movie watching experience I am going to have to go with Russell Crowe in Gladiator.
Somehow none of my 2 and 5 year old daughter's movies seem to have any appropriate characters with the right vibe.
I've somehow got less of a Russel Crowe and more of a Tom Hardy for Tal.
@Naberius: Adrien Brody really is pretty much like how I imagined Naberius. Smaller nose, though, and higher forehead.
How about Mera?
I would agree that he is not built enough but I don't have much to fall back on. Suggestions are welcome.
Same for Monday, can't think of anything better anyway.
I've somehow got less of a Russel Crowe and more of a Tom Hardy for Tal.With my limited movie watching experience I am going to have to go with Russell Crowe in Gladiator.
Somehow none of my 2 and 5 year old daughter's movies seem to have any appropriate characters with the right vibe.
Oooo!
Suggestions are welcome.
What does Tal look like? His appearance isn't in his profile.
Funny thing: Both Adrien Brody and Ben Barnes look like Keanu Reeves.
Well, Raveen and Naberius are apparently pretty similar in appearance, so it's just fitting.
Are you sure Raveen isn't some Chelaxian noble's bastard? ;P
Nah, he'd be a tiefling then.
I'm just waiting for the GM to move things along before posting further. I don't want to assume that we just get out of the city with no trouble, since the Dottari might get nosy or something... Or maybe Janiven has a special route she wants us to take. I suppose we would be a rather conspicious group, if we were to just walk out the gates.
Who's ready to get back in the sewers? :D
Ok, I want to be sure of the plan. As the Wagon approaches the bridge, who does what in what order and who is using what (i.e. bear trap, tanglefoot bags, etc.) I have updated the tactical map so let me know what square you are occupying.
We make it out of the city just fine then?
All the extra toys are Raveen's, so he would be the one to know where to put them. Naberius and Tal would be positioned under the bridge, so that Naberius can easily enlarge Tal, who will then jump up on the bridge to hold it against the Hellknights. I assume this is after whatever distractions are made to dwindle their numbers and make them stop the wagon.
Yep. The guards at the gate are more concerned with those that are entering than those that are leaving.
ooo what about a swan?
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ooo what about a swan?
+1. Serenity often disguises promise.
The raven seems to sense the anxiousness of the coming battle, and tries to remain a bit more inconspicuous on the way to the ambush spot. As inconspicuous as one can be, being a talking raven.
Just don't read any more newspapers.
Uh his clothes are dead giveaway too since they're tied to him as well lol. And the lack of a throat would be an even MORE distinct giveaway, not many guys without throats walking around.
Not true.
If Tuesday can wear clothes, there is a hooded cloak in Cathas's briefcase.And besides, Monday can afford to be more subtle and keep Tuesday around those she trusts--not on the streets. He draws unwanted attention even if no one knows of his semi-alive state.
Are Tuesday's clothes really a part of his 'body?' Interesting. I suppose he can't wear equipment, right? Or does it change with him?
I think that Raveen is the only one here who is truly capable of being 'subtle,' what with all the ghosts, opera singers, talking birds, and heavily armored giants running around. This is probably a conversation we should have in character, as subterfuge becomes more prudent. I assume the Armigers will be plenty freaked out when Tuesday starts ripping into them with his bare hands... :P
Just a note, Tal will not have a horse by him under the bridge. No handle animal skill and if you are trying to spook horses with thunderstones then our own horses would get spooked as well.
Also what happened to Janiven's bandits luring the mounted armigers away? I thought all of 'the plan' happened after they were lead away to limit their numbers.
Naberius, 1 of the items on Tal's wish list is a hat of disguise just for that reason.
As for Tuesday, does all of his items have to be ghost touched for him to use?
Just a note, Tal will not have a horse by him under the bridge. No handle animal skill and if you are trying to spook horses with thunderstones then our own horses would get spooked as well.
I imagine it would be pretty tight under there with a couple of horses, too. Naberius will be ready to enlarge Tal as he steps out, and he can make his way on the bridge by foot. No biggie.
Also what happened to Janiven's bandits luring the mounted armigers away? I thought all of 'the plan' happened after they were lead away to limit their numbers.
That takes place before our ambush, right? Or was that completely incorporated into our present plan as Team Bandits/Link?
I have a feeling this is one of those scenes that would be far easier if we were just sitting around a table. :D
Naberius, 1 of the items on Tal's wish list is a hat of disguise just for that reason.
I might invest in one as well. Not having access to illusions is not ideal for our current situation, though that was something of an intentional choice on my part.
Gorvio will volunteer to keep the horses a safe distance away. Since he works at his Uncle's stables his handle animal is really good.