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I feel like I'm starting to write Oz's stuff too comical, but it unfortunately fits his thoughts and mannerisms all too well.
I'm torn.

Aardvark DM |

Sorry, my weekends tend to be busy between my Tabletop game and the Honey Do list. I'll try to have a post up tomorrow, but the next one coming up will be a wall of text, so I can't just knock it out with a quick pop in.

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So I figure it's best I portray what Oz is getting at from here, as his speech mannerisms are probably even harder to hear than they are to type.
So yeah, here goes that. Essentially, what the masked little miscreant wants to do is go gather information on this girl, namely by looking into the Nidalese slavers. He's going to rely on his stealth and perception to look into it, however.

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Oz may as well be one. Humongous amounts of local knowledge, loves daggers, and is ridiculously dexterous :U.
Elra has more of a "Courtesan" feel to her.

Aardvark DM |

I'll try to offer a quick response to the question about leveling.
First, as to when you level, the AP says when you guys should be a given level. When it does that I will just tell you to level.
When you do, just update your profile with the new changes you get from the level (i.e. whatever your class gives you skill points, spells, abilities, etc..) just the same way you would a pen and paper version of the game.
As a PbP we still follow the majority of the core game rules (besides what has been houseruled) the only difference is that we are playing over text instead of a tabletop.
For HP, you decide whether you are going to roll, or take half. But you must decide and declare (at each level) BEFORE you see your roll.
After all updates have been made, most people make a post in the discussion thread about what changed with the new level
Example:
BaB +1
Fort/Will +1
Hp +4 (roll 3, favored class bonus +1)
2 more spell/day
etc...
I hope that answered your question?
I will post in the game thread later once work has cleared out a little.

Dareon Niroden |

So I've been thinking of ways to develop Dareon mechanically, and I wanted to multiclass a bit because the cavalier abilities are a bit uninspired and I am a big fan of multiclassing. I don't really need maximum effectiveness anyway because of the size of our party...and Gaileyon.
Anyway, I considering taking wizard, magus, and other levels...and then I thought of something.
Dareon's far too clumsy to effectively cast spells, but he certainly has an interest in arcane magic, and he certainly has the capacity for it (what with his 15 Int). I thought he'd take alchemist levels, as it means he can wear armor and still do cool magic stuff. I don't, however, want bombs, so I'd take the vivisectionist archetype, as well as likely the chiurgeon archetype for doctoring the group.
Can you guys help me think of a justification, in-character, for him to do this?

Dareon Niroden |

Well, I was thinking eldritch knight, but I'd take wizard levels from now on, and I'd have to ditch my armor, which doesn't sound too fun.
I think Fade's idea is a good one. In terms of apprenticing, alchemists can actually copy from wizard spellbooks (as long as they're on both lists) so you two could teach me certain spells/formulae.
I was also thinking that if Tanjvats ever got injured, that's be a reason to be a doctor (which is essentially what chiurgeons are. The vivisectionist part would be expressed as further curiosity in what alchemy really can do).

Faedrin Lantherion |

Do you have an idea if this is a one level dip or are you planning to devote a few levels to it? Alchemist really does seem like the best way around a troublesome ASF chance. I ask because I'm not sure how potent you'd want your magic to be. If the answer is "not very" and you're giving up bombs anyway, I wonder if rogue levels and the magic-themed rogue talents might be viable.
Tangentially, I think there are some witch hexes that are really great regardless of level. Though we're back to the troublesome ASF it sounds like you want to avoid, it seems an easy thing for Dareon to catch the eye of a patron associated with Knowledge.

Dareon Niroden |

I can't be a bard because of my terrible CHA score, and I'm reluctant to take any class with ASF, as I don't want to have to make magic something he does only in his downtime and I don't want to ditch my armor. I thought about magus, but then I'd just be you except with one level of cavalier and higher CON.
I was thinking, assuming we're going for a full AP (17-ish levels) that I'd have cavalier 10/alchemist 7
I certainly don't want just a one-level dip, I want to have fairly effective magic and crafting abilities. Rogue wasn't something I was looking at because diversity is what I want the magic for, not just t have magic available. Having one 1st-level and one 0-level spell available doesn't sound too useful.

Faedrin Lantherion |

I'm of the same opinion regarding rogue talents, but some ideas that don't hook me hook others so I thought I'd toss it out there =)
And I completely understand your desired avoidance of ASF. For feat-hungry classes to begin with, the arcane armor training feats are pricey. Have you looked at any PrCs that fit your idea? Beyond Eldritch Knight, that is.

Dareon Niroden |

Well, I was trying to think of ways to develop my character, and the first one I thought of was you teaching Dareon to be a duelist...but I wanted caster levels, so I moved on.
The other classes require things I wasn't envisioning for my character. Arcane Archer requires archery feats I wasn't planning on taking (I was thinking mostly mobility feats) while Arcane Trickster requires sneakeh sneakeh and I got the feeling Oz was going for that anyway. Master Chymist is the only alchemist PrC, and it requires bombs.

Dareon Niroden |

I generally don't really like PrCs unless you're wanting exactly what it is. They're all pretty specific. The only one I think breaks that is the Loremaster, as its available to several classes and ideas. Maybe the EDK, but its really only for fighter/wizards and straight maguses are kind of better.

Faedrin Lantherion |

What about the arcane savant or cyphermage? Both sound equally driven by history and ancient lore, though neither are blended martial/caster PrCs.
You could always stick with magus. My archetype certainly changes the flavor of my arcane pool and I'll be steering toward the dimensional savant feat chain. The kensai archetype would be *way* different for instance, though I don't think they can wear armor.

Aardvark DM |

I like the Alchemist idea. Maybe the reason is Dareon's approach. Instead of working magic through the twisting of energies, he looks at things too methodically. Too rigid, so he subconsciously doesn't allow himself to see things without having to have a 'formula' for how it works. He needs a science to explain the magic, instead of be able to get himself to see the magic for what it is.

Dareon Niroden |

That's a good interpretation, I like it. Now I just need to fabricate an IC justification for beginning my research.
Any chance I can ask for me to discover a cool tome somewhere?

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You don't really need a cool tome. The first wizard's spellbook we find is more than likely going to have strange formulae in it.

Aardvark DM |

Sorry, forgot about that. No, you couldn't seem to see it.
Also, did anyone bother to grab the rest of the stuff? Oz took the dagger, but no one mentioned the 2 other gems or the magic ring did they. Or did I just miss it?
Elrawein, a leader in which group? Your group, the urchin, the carnies, or the boys harassing the cat?