Liz Courts Community Manager |
mechaPoet RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 32 |
The choice to make a gray paladin is interesting. From a design standpoint, I think it's neat in terms of being a more nuanced paladin, but recognizing that nuance is not a part of a paladin's strength.
I'm excited to see how I can update my avenger, but almost all of this sounds really... intriguing. ;D
Nate Z |
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"The brute has a hulking out-of control vigilante identity, and he can’t always stop the transformation when he’s in danger...
...The magical child archetype covers the “magical girl” trope, with a transformation sequence ability (faster switch between identities, but with flashy lights and music), summoner spells, and an otherworldly buddy."
Been wanting this book since the vigilante was announced as part of it, but these few lines of text are making the wait almost PAINFUL...
Mark Seifter Designer |
Corbynsonn |
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Corbynsonn wrote:Oh god Battle Scion has me all in the vapors.The battle scion's "Once and Future Scion" power is indeed pretty cool. Hmm, I wonder who that other archetype with the "Skald of Twists and Turns" power could be based off? :D
Stop teasing damn you. :D
Still, book is a guarantee for me.
Luthorne |
Man, I hope my subscription ships next week instead of the week after...definitely looking forward to some of these, they sound quite...intriguing...
Most interested in the brute, cabalist, magical child, warlock for vigilante, and the fey caller, feyspeaker, vizier, and zeitgeist binder for the other archetypes...and looking forward to the new oracle mystery and kineticist wild talents...
Now, we'll have to wait and see if I need the new blog post next week to see what new feats or spells might be of interest or not.
David knott 242 |
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For some reason, the two archetypes I find most intriguing are the fey caller (presumably an update of the First World Summoner to the Unchained version of the summoner) and the feyspeaker (since I prefer to play spontaneous casters and thus had no good druidic options until now).
By the way: The magical child archetype is not actually a child (as in, using some variant of the Young Character rules from Ultimate Campaign), right?
Mark Seifter Designer |
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Xethik |
Xethik wrote:Rogue Talent for a Stalker Talent? Praise the sun!It's a once-only advanced talent with other limitations, but yep, it's in there!
I was figuring as much. Still, I remember some great Stalker talents in the beta and thinking it was a shame Rogue could not access them.
Really awesome to have the option to snag one of these without dipping.
Thanks for the Rogue love! My only concern is this not having a clause making it available to Unchained Rogue. Say it ain't so Mark! I want to sleep easy tonight.
Mark Seifter Designer |
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Mark Seifter wrote:Xethik wrote:Rogue Talent for a Stalker Talent? Praise the sun!It's a once-only advanced talent with other limitations, but yep, it's in there!I was figuring as much. Still, I remember some great Stalker talents in the beta and thinking it was a shame Rogue could not access them.
Really awesome to have the option to snag one of these without dipping.
Thanks for the Rogue love! My only concern is this not having a clause making it available to Unchained Rogue. Say it ain't so Mark! I want to sleep easy tonight.
They are only for Unchained rogues (it says to consider allowing them for regular rogues) but not for any other class or alternate class that can gain access to rogue talents.
Silver Surfer |
Hi Mark
I always love to see a new cleric archetype (especially if its clothy!)..... but the description for this one has me concerned:
"Cardinal (a politics-heavy cleric with 6 skill points per level)"
This description combined with the book subject matter obviously strikes me as an archetype with a heavy emphasis on skill points, skill ranks, discussion and debate.... not at all IMO the areas where the cleric needs help/directing. Hope I’m mistaken and not jumping the gun (apologies if I am)!
As demo'd by the Herald Caller - 4 pts/level is absolutely fine when it is allied to abilities that provide a useful impact in other areas. Conversely, the Cloistered Cleric is an excellent example of emphasis in an unnecessary area combined with neglect in others.
I’ve always felt that too many cleric archetypes don’t provide a really different ‘flavour’ or the concept is great but the execution is lacking.
Hope you understand where I’m coming from! Really looking forward to seeing the Vigilante in its full Batman glory!! ;))
Quandary |
Hm, Feyspeaker Druid Archetype sounds interesting to me, an aspect of Druids that appealed to me,
but not well served by their standard options which emphasize beatstick companion, beatstick shapechange, beatstick summons.
Domain spells + Spontaneous Casting would help spell diversity, and hopefully other abilities synergize as well,
to create a more caster-y-, skill-y less beatstick focus class...
Would that also come with Familiar built in instead of Companion?
I'm willing to give up medium armor etc, no problem... :-)
Ravingdork |
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My Ravindork's Crazy Character Emporium thread features tyrant, cardinal, and vizier characters already. I will be looking very closely at these archetypes to see if they will be a better fit for said characters' concepts.
So very excited.
Gorbacz |
Hi Mark
I always love to see a new cleric archetype (especially if its clothy!)..... but the description for this one has me concerned:
"Cardinal (a politics-heavy cleric with 6 skill points per level)"
This description combined with the book subject matter obviously strikes me as an archetype with a heavy emphasis on skill points, skill ranks, discussion and debate.... not at all IMO the areas where the cleric needs help/directing. Hope I’m mistaken and not jumping the gun (apologies if I am)!
As demo'd by the Herald Caller - 4 pts/level is absolutely fine when it is allied to abilities that provide a useful impact in other areas. Conversely, the Cloistered Cleric is an excellent example of emphasis in an unnecessary area combined with neglect in others.
I’ve always felt that too many cleric archetypes don’t provide a really different ‘flavour’ or the concept is great but the execution is lacking.
Hope you understand where I’m coming from! Really looking forward to seeing the Vigilante in its full Batman glory!! ;))
I think that with the books two weeks away, any suggestions as to changing its content are way too late.
Xethik |
Xethik wrote:They are only for Unchained rogues (it says to consider allowing them for regular rogues) but not for any other class or alternate class that can gain access to rogue talents.Mark Seifter wrote:Xethik wrote:Rogue Talent for a Stalker Talent? Praise the sun!It's a once-only advanced talent with other limitations, but yep, it's in there!I was figuring as much. Still, I remember some great Stalker talents in the beta and thinking it was a shame Rogue could not access them.
Really awesome to have the option to snag one of these without dipping.
Thanks for the Rogue love! My only concern is this not having a clause making it available to Unchained Rogue. Say it ain't so Mark! I want to sleep easy tonight.
Oh, huh. Now I'm curious what the other limitations are and if they somehow relate to Unchained Rogue specific-abilities, but I can be patient.
I can't tell if your recent comments regarding Ninjas were because your mind was on the topic of alternate classes writing this material or if that is just coincidence.
Anyways, I can celebrate URogue love even if there isn't Ninja love! Still have my fingers crossed for a Ninja archetype in the book, though.
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Evan Tarlton |
A "Hulk" vigilante, an Arthurian Skald, a skill focused Cleric, a political mastermind Mesmerist, a Lawful Evil Antipaladin... Paizo, my birthday's not until April!
To be fair, UI was originally supposed to come out in April, so...