Not a fan of Manga....so I can't really put a finger on the trope that everyone is referring to in the "magical Girl"....although the pictures people have posted make my colon spasm....
I'm interested to see how they pull of the Cabalist...I have had several character concepts that sounds well suited too....
Really eager to see what the new Keneticist abilities are like....especially fire trap.....
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Not a fan of Manga...so I can't really put a finger on the trope that everyone is referring to in the "magical Girl"....although the pictures people have posted make my colon spasm...
Don't be fooled by the sparkly, they're living weapons. Magical girls are one of the few natural predators of evil wizards and fiend lords.
I wanna sic Sailor Somol on Sorshen.
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Not a fan of Manga...so I can't really put a finger on the trope that everyone is referring to in the "magical Girl"....although the pictures people have posted make my colon spasm...Don't be fooled by the sparkly, they're living weapons. Magical girls are one of the few natural predators of evil wizards and fiend lords.
I wanna sic Sailor Somol on Sorshen.
A friend of mine is a magical girl fan and if you want a Faustian twist to the genre watch "Magical Girl Madoka"
A friend of mine is a magical girl fan and if you want a Faustian twist to the genre watch "Magical Girl Madoka"Not a fan of Manga...so I can't really put a finger on the trope that everyone is referring to in the "magical Girl"....although the pictures people have posted make my colon spasm...Don't be fooled by the sparkly, they're living weapons. Magical girls are one of the few natural predators of evil wizards and fiend lords.
I wanna sic Sailor Somol on Sorshen.
I actually just tried watching some video's in an attempt to understand the trope....but I can't get past the art style....it's not just uninteresting....but a complete turn off (at least in my opinion)...
I mean mini skirts and bows...I cant imagine any one outside of an eight year old girl finding that interesting.....Ah well...to each their own.
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Yeah, despite all the sparkles and pleated skirts magical girls usually have pretty massive destructive potential.
I'll have to see if the archetype is something I can relate to..."massive destructive potential" certainly sounds interesting ;)
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Try the Chosen One paladin from Familiar Folio for some of the "Magical Girl Warrior" trope, using smites for the massive damage attack thing (though it's much lighter of a reference to the trope and doesn't have a transformation sequence).
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A friend of mine is a magical girl fan and if you want a Faustian twist to the genre watch "Magical Girl Madoka"Not a fan of Manga...so I can't really put a finger on the trope that everyone is referring to in the "magical Girl"....although the pictures people have posted make my colon spasm...Don't be fooled by the sparkly, they're living weapons. Magical girls are one of the few natural predators of evil wizards and fiend lords.
I wanna sic Sailor Somol on Sorshen.
I actually just tried watching some video's in an attempt to understand the trope....but I can't get past the art style....it's not just uninteresting....but a complete turn off (at least in my opinion)...
I mean mini skirts and bows...I cant imagine any one outside of an eight year old girl finding that interesting.....Ah well...to each their own.
That's actually part of what makes it creepy. You start with generic cutesy anime girls and then the Lovecraftian elements start to kick in...
As far as magical series go my favorites are Sailor Moon, Card Capture Sakura, Princess Tutu, W.i.t.c.h., Miraculous Ladybug, Devil Hunter Yoko, Shugo Chara, Akazukin Chacha, and Magic Users Club. I would also count Cutey Honey but she is technically an android and her abilities are non-magical. You could also count Rainbow Brite, She-Ra, and Moondreamers as magical girls series. Though Jem and Holograms is similar just like Cutey Honey, her powers are based on tech not magic.
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A friend of mine is a magical girl fan and if you want a Faustian twist to the genre watch "Magical Girl Madoka"Not a fan of Manga...so I can't really put a finger on the trope that everyone is referring to in the "magical Girl"....although the pictures people have posted make my colon spasm...Don't be fooled by the sparkly, they're living weapons. Magical girls are one of the few natural predators of evil wizards and fiend lords.
I wanna sic Sailor Somol on Sorshen.
"Faustian Twist." Despite its accuracy it almost feels understated.
'Would you like to make a contract with me?'
Bwahaha now I finally have decent rules to run a proper Power Rangers campaign!
Try the Chosen One paladin from Familiar Folio for some of the "Magical Girl Warrior" trope, using smites for the massive damage attack thing (though it's much lighter of a reference to the trope and doesn't have a transformation sequence).
For some reason, Chosen One doesn't make me think of Magical Girl Warrior so much as of Eddie Murphy, even though I've unfortunately only seen the trailer for that movie, and not the movie itself . . . .
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Gotta watch the movie! It's one of his best. :-)
Yeah, The Golden Child is one of his best other then Coming to America and the first two Beverly Hills Cop movies.
Is Buffy a magical girl? She's a chosen one.
Is Buffy a magical girl? She's a chosen one.
The transformation sequence is pretty important to the archetype, though it just occurred to me I don't know enough about Buffy to be 100% sure she doesn't go through a transformation sequence.
A good example of a western magical girl boy would be Danny Phantom.
How has no one mentioned Power Rangers? If you don't like cutie girl archetypes, Power Rangers are like the iconic super masculine magical girls.
Wasn't He-Man one of the first magical girls?
Edit: Now that I think about it, Captain Marvel, aka Shazam, comes pretty close, but he doesn't have a magical companion that I know of.
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Edit: Now that I think about it, Captain Marvel, aka Shazam, comes pretty close, but he doesn't have a magical companion that I know of.
Mister Tawky Tawny?
To say nothing of the rest of the Marvel Family...
So new ranger combat styles...I am guessing(hoping really) that one of them(possibly Underhanded?) focuses on dirty tricks.
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So new ranger combat styles...I am guessing(hoping really) that one of them(possibly Underhanded?) focuses on dirty tricks.
"I just don't get it boss! We had sentries, magical wards, traps, everything, but somehow he bypassed them all. Next thing I know he's in the middle of the room. He never said a word, just kicked each and every one of us in the nuts and walked out the front door."
Maybe there will be a feat for kineticist that grants them bonuses on combat maneuvers.
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How has no one mentioned Power Rangers? If you don't like cutie girl archetypes, Power Rangers are like the iconic super masculine magical girls.
Late to the party buddy.
I HAVE BEEN SMURFED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No, Mark Seifter said here that the Magical Child archetype isn't limited to females. Presumably, it works reasonably well for super sentai and similar concepts.So this magical girl archetype has to be a girl? And I ask this as a guy that plays a fair number of female characters. I just see it as unnecessarily limiting. Easy enough to house rule but it strikes me as odd as I've never heard of the magical girl trope but the magical child or chosen one I've heard of plenty in fantasy. ie: Not gender limited.
Anyways, curious design decision.
This is not at all helping my desire to see a Jatembe's Ten Magic Warriors themed AP that is more or less the PCs as a Mwangi Sentai Team with some of the Magical Warriors' mask.
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A friend of mine is a magical girl fan and if you want a Faustian twist to the genre watch "Magical Girl Madoka"Not a fan of Manga...so I can't really put a finger on the trope that everyone is referring to in the "magical Girl"....although the pictures people have posted make my colon spasm...Don't be fooled by the sparkly, they're living weapons. Magical girls are one of the few natural predators of evil wizards and fiend lords.
I wanna sic Sailor Somol on Sorshen.
This should be required viewing for anyone who wants to play a Magical Child Vigilante in Strange Aeons.
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I'm a little nervous for my ranger/druid spell-list-using invisible-after-moving playtest zealot... that particular option was one of the best parts of the playtest and it sounds like it might not be available in the finished version!--but it seems like a lot of other suggested changes were made and overall I'm optimistic. Should be fun! I'll be looking for the shipping email in my inbox this week...
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So new ranger combat styles...I am guessing(hoping really) that one of them(possibly Underhanded?) focuses on dirty tricks."I just don't get it boss! We had sentries, magical wards, traps, everything, but somehow he bypassed them all. Next thing I know he's in the middle of the room. He never said a word, just kicked each and every one of us in the nuts and walked out the front door."
My kind of hero.
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My kind of hero.So new ranger combat styles...I am guessing(hoping really) that one of them(possibly Underhanded?) focuses on dirty tricks."I just don't get it boss! We had sentries, magical wards, traps, everything, but somehow he bypassed them all. Next thing I know he's in the middle of the room. He never said a word, just kicked each and every one of us in the nuts and walked out the front door."
The hero Golarion needs, but not the hero it deserves.
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I defy anyone to tell me with a straight face that a paladin needs to stray from law and/or good to competently deal with or even in intrigue. I've done it before and will do it again, no "gray paladin" required; they have all the tools as-is. Diplomacy, Sense Motive, Knowledge (nobility), Profession (barrister), and best of all a commitment to Law. Nothing drives intrigue quite like knowing all the ins and outs of the rules. ;) Something like the 3.5 Grey Guard or the gray paladin archetype talked about here only serves as a crutch for those who want the glory without the guts. :P
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Profession (barrister),
This is not the correct 'Law'.
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Profession (barrister),This is not the correct 'Law'.
Nothing says they can't do both. ;) In any case, I've played a paladin in 3.5 Forgotten Realms who hewed to the code while running an effective counterinsurgency campaign and shadow war against the Night Masks, and my first Pathfinder Society character is a paladin actively scheming to bring down Hamaria Blakros for her evil ways and handed the means to do it through her violation of Absalom's slave trading laws in The Penumbral Accords (hence Profession [barrister]). The overarching point is that relaxing the definition of "paladin" to include not-good and not-lawful is both a perversion of the concept and not at all necessary to make them fit in a campaign heavy in political intrigue.
Has anyone received their pdf yet...? I expected a lot more discussion by this point. Did shipping start today?
The Vigilante sounds very fun and interesting, the archetypes in particular sound awesome, and I'm also very excited about the new druid archetype but I'll admit I'm a bit tentative about how it will all be implemented.
Nothing says they can't do both. ;) In any case, I've played a paladin in 3.5 Forgotten Realms who hewed to the code while running an effective counterinsurgency campaign and shadow war against the Night Masks, and my first Pathfinder Society character is a paladin actively scheming to bring down Hamaria Blakros for her evil ways and handed the means to do it through her violation of Absalom's slave trading laws in The Penumbral Accords (hence Profession [barrister]). The overarching point is that relaxing the definition of "paladin" to include not-good and not-lawful is both a perversion of the concept and not at all necessary to make them fit in a campaign heavy in political intrigue.Profession (barrister),This is not the correct 'Law'.
The definition of Paladin needn't include the words Lawful Good. Most times it has been so restricted, they've gone back and opened it up. It's true in Pathfinder, and I believe true for most editions of D&D (never played the first so not sure there. They may have renamed it something else but make no mistake... it's a warrior servant of an ideal or God that has an alignment other than LG.
It's great to find your joy in your character but I'd like to serve a more neutral God in a way that matches that God's particular morality.
There's love for the Paladin in the book, you just don't love it back... and that's O.K. I'm gonna read about it then decide : )
Feyspeaker? A charisma based druid? With six skill points? SQUEEEEE!
What does it give up to get that? Oh, I almost don't care. I want! I want!
Hmm
Gnome iconics are finally mechanically optimal.
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Has anyone received their pdf yet...? I expected a lot more discussion by this point. Did shipping start today?
Not that they'd be able to download it anyways. I haven't been able to download anything since Paizo started contributing to Humble Bundle.
Feyspeaker? A charisma based druid? With six skill points? SQUEEEEE!
What does it give up to get that? Oh, I almost don't care. I want! I want!
Hmm
If they keep their Wild Shaping, they'll be my favorite archetype of any class.
I hope they don't loose there wild shape ability.
Loving the alignment-changing paladin and anti-paladin archetypes. Hoping the Gray Paladin goes PFS legal. I love paladins, love playing with them, but don't like playing LG myself.
As far as Anti-Paladins go, what I was really hoping for, was Clinton Boomer's Chaotic Good Desnan archetype.
I hope they don't loose there wild shape ability.
I hope they do lose it, means the class will be less grab-bag-y and means they can do more with the archetype.
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Has anyone received their pdf yet...? I expected a lot more discussion by this point. Did shipping start today?Not that they'd be able to download it anyways. I haven't been able to download anything since Paizo started contributing to Humble Bundle.
@Ravingdork -- Don't download in Chrome. I used other browsers and got my downloads to work.
I would prefer they loose there animal companion/domain ability.
Has anyone received their pdf yet...? I expected a lot more discussion by this point. Did shipping start today?Not that they'd be able to download it anyways. I haven't been able to download anything since Paizo started contributing to Humble Bundle.
How long has it been since you tried? I haven't had any problems downloading anything in nearly a week. Of course, everything I have downloaded lately has been on the small side -- I will have to see whether I have any problems when I get Ultimate Intrigue.
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I need this like yesterday. And here I thought I wouldn't be wanting this book....