SLAs don't need any components right? So you could cast wish/miracle with no diamond.
Not to derail the topic, but a couple of queries.
1. Wish still has the "can be twisted" limitations, so would I really still want this spell?
2. Miracle is having a deity intervene in a way to suit your needs as long as the deity supports it. How would you rule this if we applied it to the real world?
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0 - Prestidigitation (Great utility spell with lots of different useful effects. I specially like the ability to alter the flavor of food - suddenly it becomes much easier to stick to your diet.)
1 – Unseen Servant (You basically get a slave, but without any of the moral implications. You never have to clean, do the dishes or mow the lawn again.)
2 – Make Whole (Repair everything from torn clothes, to a broken down car. Depending on your reading of the spell, it might even be used to restored damaged antiquities or works of art. Imagine how much bank you could make, by touring various museums and restoring damaged paintings, without any risk for the artwork.)
3 – Heroism (Good, long lasting bonus to nearly any check you would actually have to make.)
4 – Imbue with Flight (You may not be able to fly yourself, but your car can.)
5 – Teleport (Instant travel. Nuff said.)
6 – Age Resistance (Seems like an obvious long-term investment.)
7 – Mage’s Magnificent Mansion (Magical, extra dimensional mansion, fully staffed and without the property taxes.)
8 – Polymorph Any Object (Self-explanatory.)
9 – Shapechange (Want to fly? Become a dragon. Want to kill your enemies? Become a dragon. Want to pick up hot chicks? become a dragon. Want to run for prisident? Why not do that, as a dragon.)
Look around your house.
Look at your shower.
Look at your sink.
Look at your clothes hamper.
If you're not saying unseen servant you picked the wrong spell and are lying to yourself.
A problem that is trivial to solve with money.
Better to pick a means of generating wealth that nobody will question. Use that wealth to solve most mundane problems by means nobody will question.
The easy answer here is being able to predict the stock market. You don't even need 100% accuracy. Just good enough to match, say, Warren Buffet.
Perhaps slightly less accurate if you want to remain anonymous while still generating wealth.
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Look around your house.
Look at your shower.
Look at your sink.
Look at your clothes hamper.
If you're not saying unseen servant you picked the wrong spell and are lying to yourself.
A problem that is trivial to solve with money.
Better to pick a means of generating wealth that nobody will question. Use that wealth to solve most mundane problems by means nobody will question.
The easy answer here is being able to predict the stock market. You don't even need 100% accuracy. Just good enough to match, say, Warren Buffet.
Perhaps slightly less accurate if you want to remain anonymous while still generating wealth.
I love unseen servant as a spell. However not as my only 1st level spell. I can hire a maid.
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Mine would be
0 prestidigitation
1 comprehend languages
2 locate object
3 fly
4 Improved Invisibility
5 Major Creation
6 heal
7 teleport w/o error
8 polymorph any object
9 wish
Summon Monster IX is pretty good for a 9th level choice, with the astral deva, ghaele azata and trumpet archon having a ton of useful spell-like abilities and / or clerical spells. At-will remove disease, for the astral deva, could be pretty darn handy for eliminating some incurable lifelong diseases, for instance, and save you the necessity of having heal on your own personal list.
Did I say mythic time stop? I should have said mythic time stop.
Hmmm...these would change depending on my mood that day...but right now I'm thinking...
0 - Mage Hand
1 - Comprehend Languages
2 - Make Whole
3 - Fly
4 - Divination
5 - Telekinesis
6 - Heal
7 - Greater Teleport
8 - Clone
9 - Gate
Earlier today it would have been
0 - Spark
1 - Produce Flame
2 - Scorching Ray
3 - Fireball
etc
etc
etc
Because sometimes you really just need to light a deserving @$$ on fire.
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If I got them at will, then all that mattered would be my level nine choice, either wish or miracle to imitate other spells. If they can't be used that frequently, than I don't know how I'd ever choose. Assuming the first scenario, though, it would be highly entertaining to use wish to imitate low level spells, like cure light wounds for a paper cut, or magic missile to kill flies. (Though I'd probably show off by mending a paper cut with something unnecessarily powerful, like heal or regenerate.
0 - Prestidigitation
1 - Crafter's Fortune
2 - Share Memory
3 - Life Bubble (yay Ranger list!)
4 - Truespeak
5 - Heal (yay Adept list!)
6 - Treacherous Teleport
7 - Mass Fly
8 - True Prognostication
9 - Create Demiplane, Greater
Curses, foiled again. "Contingency" and "Cyclic Reincarnation" are both level 6 spells... hmm...
Curses, foiled again. "Contingency" and "Cyclic Reincarnation" are both level 6 spells... hmm...
Limited wish or wish could handle both of those.
Choices are So hard. It’s like trying to choose your favorite puppy.
0 — Prestidigitation
1 — Cure Light Wounds
2 — Invisibility
3 — Adjustable Disguise
4 — Scry
5 — Teleport
6 — Heal
7 — Form of the Dragon II
8 — Nine Lives
9 — Wish
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0th: Prestidigitation: It's prestidigitation. What more do you need?
1st: See Alignment: It's kinda broken IRL. Wanna know if you should trust this stranger that just walked up to you? PING!
2nd: Locate Object: I mean... c'mon."Where are my keys?" Oh, I have a spell that instantly tells me.
3rd: Voluminous Vocabulary: As long as you know the language, it's like tongues but better.
4th: Greater Celestial Healing: I actually just like the idea of the spell. Plus, it's Good Aligned. What's not to like?
5th: Telekinesis: The ultimate in every-day utility. Need to move a piano? Telekinesis. Need to move the sofa? Telekinesis. Need something high up? Telekinesis.
6th: Telepathy: Because communication is important, and sometimes you really want private communication in a crowded circumstance.
7th: Greater Teleport: The ultimate movement ability.
8th: Moment of Prescience: We're assuming I can cast these spells at-will, which means... why not just get +X to anything whenever I see fit or need it? Works really well with my 9th level spell choice:
9th: Foresight. I know it sounds weird, but the ultimate "You're never surprised and always know the best course of action to avoid danger" is too good to pass up. Sure, wish etc. is nice, but you're still human. This basically makes you Spiderman.
I also noticed that I love divination spells for IRL stuff. Is that weird? Should there be more wizards with divination spells prepped as NPCs?
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A great thread question. Thanks for posting!
0: Prestidigitation (literally a life-changing spell)
1: Endure Elements (Global Weirding suggests that this is a wise choice)
2. Detect Thoughts (I just can't resist this)
3. Suggestion (my manipulation spell, I didn't want domination spells for the obvious moral conundrums and temptations, also pathfinder rulings on the obviousness of magic kind of ruin the stealthy use of enchantments and illusions)
4. Tongues (convenient for world travel, higher education, and watching foreign movies)
5: Commune (helps anticipate and solve problems, plus kinda neat for its implications in the real world)
6. Heal (I'm in the USA so affordable health care is a bit of a priority)
7. Greater Teleport (combine with Google Maps for travel or escape)
8. Polymorph Any Object (perhaps the most versatile spell in the game after miracle/wish; seems like I could always have money by changing paper permanently into paper bills. Good attack spell to have, difficult to prosecute me for using. Possibly allows defeating death by polymorphing into a younger body.)
9. Miracle (Honestly, I may have a god complex)
I feel like Fly is a trap choice. Nothing gets you identified by the government, captured, and experimented upon or forced into black ops work like Flying through the air or other flashy public spells. I'll avoid the mutant camps, thanks. I suppose you could just get shot out of the sky by fighter planes too.
Similarly, Mage's Magnificent Mansion looks like a great idea, but I feel like you'd end up with lots of problems with zoning, property taxes, and being outed as a mutant. It's like when Daniel Dae Kim was a villain on Angel.
Invisibility is tempting as an escape spell, but greater teleport will serve that function.
Watch out for material components: Alter Self has a material component of a piece of the creature you'd like to become! Ew!
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I'll assume that my CL is as high as it needs to be, that I don't need material components (or at least, I can somehow make do with what is possible to get) that wish/miracle/et al are verboten, and (just to keep a lid on things) so are extraplanar travel and Mythic/Hero Point options.
Depending on which 0-9 class list I'm permitted to choose from....
Arcanist/Sorcerer/Wizard:
0th: mage hand
1st: charm person
2nd: create pit
3rd: fly
4th: warp metal
5th: major creation
6th: cosmic ray
7th: greater teleport
8th: polymorph any object
9th: meteor swarm
Cleric/Oracle:
0th: detect poison
1st: protection from Evil
2nd: calm emotions
3rd: bestow curse
4th: Chaos hammer
5th: flame strike
6th: heal
7th: resurrection
8th: greater remove radiactivity
9th: winds of vengeance
Druid:
0th: chameleon scales
1st: endure elements
2nd: burst of radiance
3rd: water breathing
4th: air walk
5th: fire snake
6th: stone tell
7th: control weather
8th: reverse gravity
9th: temporal regression
Shaman:
0th: create water
1st: remove fear
2nd: lesser animate dead
3rd: speak with dead
4th: ball lightning
5th: overland flight
6th: curse of the outcast
7th: greater restoration
8th: horrid wilting
9th: shapechange
Witch:
0th: mending
1st: comprehend languages
2nd: blindness/deafness
3rd: grasping tentacles
4th: discern lies
5th: baleful polymorph
6th: animate objects
7th: temporal divergence
8th: irresistible dance
9th: maze of madness and suffering
Psychic:
0th: prestidigitation
1st: magic missile
2nd: hideous laughter
3rd: major image
4th: telekinesis
5th: fabricate
6th: greater heroism
7th: walk through space
8th: form of the alien dragon II
9th: telekinetic storm
0: Bleed
1: Charm person
2: Invisibility
3: Vampiric touch
4: Scrying
5: Dominate person
6: Treacherous teleport
7: Mage's magnificent mansion
8: Polymorph any object
9: Eternity of torment
...what?
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...what?
Let me tell you....
0: Bleed
Why waste an opportunity to break the laws of physics on something you could do with a knife?!?
9: Eternity of torment
*swats Sissyl on the head with a rolled-up Torah scroll, a big heavy one stolen out of an NYC Hassidic synagogue's Closet*
No. NO. That is NOT a thing. We do NOT respond to this thread with spells they haven't yet published. Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities.
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I just kinda skimmed, but I'm surprised no one has taken any of the shadow school spells. They really cover a lot of ground. Here's mine:
0 - Prestidigitation
1 - Comprehend Languages
2 - Detect Thoughts
3 - Major Image
4 - Dimension Door
5 - Shadow Evocation
6 - Greater Shadow Enchantment
7 - Greater Shadow Conjuration
8 - Polymorph Any Object
9 - Wish (more for duplicating other spells than for the more dangerous stuff)
Eternity of torment is from the Book of Vile Darkness. You gotta have something to motivate underlings.
I'm surprised no one has chosen permanency for level 5.
Someone did.
1st: See Alignment: It's kinda broken IRL. Wanna know if you should trust this stranger that just walked up to you? PING!
The vast majority won't be high enough level to have an aura.
I would be very concerned about anyone that was high enough level for this spell to work on.
I built my list with the mechanic that the OP put forth a little ways down page 1. Uses = (10 - spell level) per day. So a 0-level spell will only see 10 uses/day while a 9th gets 1/day.
Let's say they are SLAs an all CL 20. Also they can be cast 10- spell level times per day (so the 5th level spell could be cast 5 times a day)
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Look around your house.
Look at your shower.
Look at your sink.
Look at your clothes hamper.
If you're not saying unseen servant you picked the wrong spell and are lying to yourself.
Prestidigitation solves most cleaning issues. That's why I took Silent Image at level 1 - illusions in a world with no Spellcraft would be crazy useful.
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I'm surprised no one has chosen permanency for level 5.Someone did.
1st: See Alignment: It's kinda broken IRL. Wanna know if you should trust this stranger that just walked up to you? PING!The vast majority won't be high enough level to have an aura.
I would be very concerned about anyone that was high enough level for this spell to work on.
You're confusing See Alignment with Detect Evil/Good/Law/Chaos.
When you cast this spell, select a single alignment (such as lawful good or chaotic evil). Creatures of that alignment glow with a ghostly radiance while they are within your vision. Though you can see this radiance, other creatures cannot. Spells and effects that obscure alignment, like undetectable alignment, also obscure the effects of this spell.
Nothing about having an aligned aura. If you're that alignment, you just glow with that alignment.
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0: Prestidigitation (Perfect hair, every day? Never need to do dry cleaning again? Hell yes.)
1: Comprehend languages (So incredibly incredibly useful. Especially for my Job. But also for not having to use subtitles when watching movies, or dictionaries when reading other languages, or ordering in restaurants, or travelling abroad)
2: Enthrall (Being able to make a concert hall full of people pay attention to you and feel good about you while doing it is the most amazing public speaking aid ever.)
3: Major Image (I'd make a fortune in special effects, and halloween would be the best thing ever.)
4: Greater Make Whole (Never have to worry about breaking my, anything, really. My Phone, my comp, no physical damage to technological items, or even just erosion of technology from the vagaries of time. I could make a fortune repairing stuff like space shuttles and high tech fragile scientific equipment too)
5: Life Bubble (Be able to breathe underwater? and avoid choking to death? Keeping my experience pleasant wherever I go? Yes, please).
6: Heal (never need to worry about blindness or a number of other issues ever again. So incredibly incredibly useful. I will never stay sick again. And neither will my loved ones.)
7: Greater Teleport (Go Wherever I want? For free? With no range limit or chance of missing? A free vacation every weekend? yeah. that is what I want, thanks.)
8: Polymorph Any Object (yes, I would like to Be able to turn any object into any other object, possibly permanently. That would solve so, so many problems.)
9: Wish (but if that's cheating, then either Regenerate, Or True Resurrection)
Hmmmm.... I think this is basically what I would go for. A mix of utility, reliable combat abilities, and shapechanging. I think I just need to fit in some sort of defensive ability, and then I'd be set. Protection from Arrows might work very well vs guns....
0 - Prestidigitation
1 - Magic Missile
2 - Make Whole
3 - Fireball
4 - Age Resistance
5 - Major Creation
6 - Heal
7 - greater teleport
8 - Form of the (Alien?) Dragon 3
9 - Shapechange
Not to burst your bubble, but this is the last sentence of the nap stack spell:
“Creatures can only enjoy the benefits of this spell once in any 1-week period.”
I am a little surprised how few look at the Mental/Physical stat improving spells for second level. Fox's Cunning providing a +4 to INT, means you go from a likely 10 INT commoner to a 14 INT Math expert for 9 minutes per day 8 times a day.
Any of the Physical or mental stat boosters have short durations, but can make you an expert or master level Human in a task. Not sure if giving up Tongues, or major image for meta magic extended spell for 18+ mins per day is worth it though.
EDIT: +4 to CHA would be sweet for dating, and I would have the CHA to excuse myself every 8 minutes to reapply without it being weird =D
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A spell I haven't seen mentioned is Phantasmal Revenge, a spell that could eliminate active serial killers, decimate criminal syndicates, and perform surgical counterinsurgencies.
I'm also surprised not to see a lot of interest in spells like Seek Thoughts and Discern Lies, which could transform human relationships.
Commune--imagine the questions a panel of nobel prize winners could pose with Commune. Or imagine the value that you could get out of it by posing the big questions: "Is there a God?" Or for you simple pleasures folks, reflect that with twenty questions you could pick a winning lottery ticket out of a million possible numbers every week, or out of a trillion every other week.
If Wish is out, Summon Monster IX gives you access to diverse spells through creatures like Ghale and Trumpet Archons and Astral Devas.
Protection from Arrows would work against bullets, right? Probably worth the slot.
Hmm. I'll have to go through the list in more detail, but off the top of my head, I'd go for a lot of divination/telepathy types of spells, and become the world's most awesome investigative journalist.
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I am a little surprised how few look at the Mental/Physical stat improving spells for second level. Fox's Cunning providing a +4 to INT, means you go from a likely 10 INT commoner to a 14 INT Math expert for 9 minutes per day 8 times a day.
Any of the Physical or mental stat boosters have short durations, but can make you an expert or master level Human in a task. Not sure if giving up Tongues, or major image for meta magic extended spell for 18+ mins per day is worth it though.EDIT: +4 to CHA would be sweet for dating, and I would have the CHA to excuse myself every 8 minutes to reapply without it being weird =D
I mostly didn't go for those because they're a little more abstract and have a lot of questions when you start looking at real world use (if you increase your intelligence, can you still comprehend thing you figure out after the spell ends? Stuff like that). Plus, honestly, charm spells make a lot of that stuff superfluous. You can get your friends to do your math for you.
I'm also surprised not to see a lot of interest in spells like Seek Thoughts and Discern Lies, which could transform human relationships.
That's why I went with detect thoughts. Also, with shadow enchantment, you can just drop a zone of truth. Or, hell, pop dominate person and order them to speak the truth. Though I am reticent to mess with dominate spells unless in dire straits.
Protection from Arrows would work against bullets, right? Probably worth the slot.
I stayed away from stuff like that partly because I don't plan on getting shot at, but mostly because HP are an abstraction, so having DR 10 is a nebulous concept at best.
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Absolutely agree. If I got one spell, and one spell only to use, it would b e Unseen Servant.Look around your house.
Look at your shower.
Look at your sink.
Look at your clothes hamper.
If you're not saying unseen servant you picked the wrong spell and are lying to yourself.
Shadow conjuration gets you that, plus just about every other conjuration spell.
Hmmm, lets think.
0. Prestidigiation is far far too useful, even for just for making the small crude objects, imagine how many times you have tried to explain what something looked like and wished you had something to reference.
1. Linked Legacy. This on the condition that it imbues understanding and that making a scientific discovery would be represented by a knowledge check. Imagine the impact that this could have in science. Immediate shared understanding of complex problems. It should be able to massively increase the rate of discovery.
Beyond that, if recalling knowledge is a knowledge check this could be used to rapidly educate prospective students in advanced concepts in medicine and physics.
Imagine a doctor with this, encountering a trauma victim on a street he could grab a bunch of passers by and immediately share with them the knowledge of how to treat the patient.
2. Make whole, or Fox's cunning. I am not really sure which here would be good. Zone of Truth is pretty good. Cure moderate wounds would be valuable as well I think, lets you cure physical wounds 8 times a day vs the 4 from Heal.
I think just in terms of quality of life Make Whole would be good. If you cast it each day as many times as you could on different items things would basically never break.
Tears to wine is a close call here
3. Lesser Guardian monument is pretty cool. Put it in some key spaces in your house and never have to worry about stubbing your toe or paper cuts or a slip of the knife ever again.
Urban step is neat. Gaseous form is cool too.
Major image might edge out here a bit, just for awesome utility.
With healing magic I could ignore Lesser Guardian Monument and go Major Image.
4. Greater celestial healing, or greater claim identity from Antipaladin, or age resistance. I think Divination might be the best option here to be fair.
5. Fabricate
6. Heal
7. Greater Teleport
8. Polymorph Any Object.
9. I would go for Wish, not for the spell mimicry but for the stat bonuses. If I could make the money to get the diamonds, or if we can ignore the spell components, imagine the progress to be made if suddenlt all major scientists had a +5 int. That is assuming that the casting over 5 days on a single person actually works to add up to the +5.
If wish is cheating I would maybe go for create greater demiplane, interplanetary teleport is an interesting option. Summon monster IX is also intriguing.
Not to burst your bubble, but this is the last sentence of the nap stack spell:
“Creatures can only enjoy the benefits of this spell once in any 1-week period.”
Is why I went with Lesser Restoration.
No matter how tired you get, be it from an all-nighters or running a marathon, Lesser Restoration will fully refresh you,