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To most a worthless topic, but I can't help but be curious why was this Sauropod chosen as a representative for the "Titanosaurs" group?
Since it isn't the dinosaur's scientific name anymore and the info about the dinosaur also sound remarkable outdated(basing it of d20 though)
All of this makes me wonder is this to "make up" the dinosaur that so many thought they knew growing up? I admit I liked the name Brontosaurus better than Apatosaurus and have grown up with it as the biggest dinosaur in Dinoriders and hearing about it's name in the Flintstones.
I'm also curious if we perhaps one day might get the heavy weight "Argentinosaurus" in pathfinder a dinosaur that going by wikipedia should be anything from 2x the size of "Brontosaurus" all the way up to 7-8 times as heavy
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I believe that for 99% of humankind, an answer to the question "can you name any dinosaurs?" would look like this:
1. T-rex
2. Triceratops
3. "Brontosaurus"
4. Velociraptor
5. Stegosaurus
6. Pterodactyl
7. That funny small running one from Jurassic Park
8. That nasty spitting one from Jurassic Park
9. Spinosaurus
10. Barney
There goes your answer.
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probably more of 99% of the Americans Gorbacz, for the brontosaurus however if you mean any sauropod then your probably correct for the global one.
I'm more surprised that dnd 5e also refereed to it as a brontosaurus given the book with it appearing being from last year.
Still as mentioned i find it interesting and would like to know if there was a reason behind it being chosen over other sauropod options.
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To most a worthless topic, but I can't help but be curious why was this Sauropod chosen as a representative for the "Titanosaurs" group?
Since it isn't the dinosaur's scientific name anymore and the info about the dinosaur also sound remarkable outdated(basing it of d20 though)
All of this makes me wonder is this to "make up" the dinosaur that so many thought they knew growing up? I admit I liked the name Brontosaurus better than Apatosaurus and have grown up with it as the biggest dinosaur in Dinoriders and hearing about it's name in the Flintstones.
I'm also curious if we perhaps one day might get the heavy weight "Argentinosaurus" in pathfinder a dinosaur that going by wikipedia should be anything from 2x the size of "Brontosaurus" all the way up to 7-8 times as heavy
Actually there is a Brontosaurus now. A couple years ago scientists re-examining some skeletal features of an Apatosaurus (I think that was the one) reinstated Brontosaurus as a separate genus. Brontosaurs were diplodocids, not titanosaurs and existed before they did. If I'm wrong about this, MMCJAWA is welcome to correct me on this. But I do recall reading several articles about the renaming of at least one specimen.
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Torbyne |
Azullius Koujou wrote:Actually there is a Brontosaurus now. A couple years ago scientists re-examining some skeletal features of an Apatosaurus (I think that was the one) reinstated Brontosaurus as a separate genus. Brontosaurs were diplodocids, not titanosaurs and existed before they did. If I'm wrong about this, MMCJAWA is welcome to correct me on this. But I do recall reading several articles about the renaming of at least one specimen.To most a worthless topic, but I can't help but be curious why was this Sauropod chosen as a representative for the "Titanosaurs" group?
Since it isn't the dinosaur's scientific name anymore and the info about the dinosaur also sound remarkable outdated(basing it of d20 though)
All of this makes me wonder is this to "make up" the dinosaur that so many thought they knew growing up? I admit I liked the name Brontosaurus better than Apatosaurus and have grown up with it as the biggest dinosaur in Dinoriders and hearing about it's name in the Flintstones.
I'm also curious if we perhaps one day might get the heavy weight "Argentinosaurus" in pathfinder a dinosaur that going by wikipedia should be anything from 2x the size of "Brontosaurus" all the way up to 7-8 times as heavy
Actually, i remember hearing something about this too. I took my kids to a dinosaur dig and the Paleontologist there was talking about it some. He was of the opinion that they were still basically the same animal but that there were slight changes to it across the millions of years that the animal developed and he wasnt sure if it was the right place to draw the line. Really neat insights actually. But in the end, i do believe that Brontosaurus officially exists again.
That doesnt change my previous post though that the system plays very loose with things from the real world. Although i think they actually did do a good job with velociraptors being smaller and weaker than Jurassic Park would have you believe... JP used Deinonychus as Raptors, something like that?
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This is the same system that insist that Studded Leather is a viable kind of armor and Longswords are one handed AND smaller than hand and a half sword and that Falchion are two handed and... yeah, even when dealing with things from reality they dont follow it too closely.
*Eye Twitches.*
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Torbyne wrote:This is the same system that insist that Studded Leather is a viable kind of armor and Longswords are one handed AND smaller than hand and a half sword and that Falchion are two handed and... yeah, even when dealing with things from reality they dont follow it too closely.*Eye Twitches.*
Oh! also, look at how few swords can be used to thrust with or that the rapier is incapable of push or pull cuts. And Scale mail and Full Plate being in use at the same time. Crossbows having less punch than bows; the ability for anyone to pick up a sling and use it accurately. Why doesnt Brigandine or other coat of plates type armor exist?
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Just recently a new species of Dicynodont was discovered in Africa (I think that's where it was from). Dicynodonts were reptiles that showed some mammalian traits. They named it Bulbasaurus because of a bulbous bump on its snout.
I think aerodactyl has had its name immigrated into reality as well.
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I remember hearing that the JP raptors where based on the (then) newly discovered Utahraptor. Though the utahraptor was estimated to be roughly the size of a polar bear.
The timing is the other way around. The discovery of Utahraptor was announced after the filmmakers had designed their oversized velociraptors.
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To most a worthless topic, but I can't help but be curious why was this Sauropod chosen as a representative for the "Titanosaurs" group?
Since it isn't the dinosaur's scientific name anymore and the info about the dinosaur also sound remarkable outdated(basing it of d20 though)
#1: Because it's a cooler name.
#2: Because They recently found out it was a different species from Apatosaurus after all. (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-brontosaurus-is-back1/)
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Torbyne wrote:This is the same system that insist that Studded Leather is a viable kind of armor and Longswords are one handed AND smaller than hand and a half sword and that Falchion are two handed and... yeah, even when dealing with things from reality they dont follow it too closely.*Eye Twitches.*
I pretend that studded leather armor is just riveted leather and everything makes a little more sense. But then I also am roleplaying my gnome's standard leather armor as a gambeson in my Emerald Spire game right now and nobody's complained about that.
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I'm also curious if we perhaps one day might get the heavy weight "Argentinosaurus" in pathfinder a dinosaur that going by wikipedia should be anything from 2x the size of "Brontosaurus" all the way up to 7-8 times as heavy
What about the biggest dinosaur that has ever lived, amphicoelias fragilimus which can grow up to 58 meters in length.
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I like Rich Burlew's soution for introducing the brontosaurus to fantasy worlds: Order of the Stick 814, The Answer is Blowing in the Wind.
Tarquin: Welcome to the Brontosaurus Express. Beats walking back to town, huh?
Roy: Isn't a "brontosaurus" really just an apatosaurus with the head of a different dinosaur?
Tarquin: And a hippogriff is really just a horse with the head and wings of a bird, but I've still got eight squadrons mounted on the damn things.
Roy: Hmm. Fair enough.