There can be male witches. It's not gender-specific.
Men can be witches too. A lot of the classes use "her" as the gender pronoun, but that's not meant to be an indication of what genders/sexes they can be applied to.
Changelings, being the offspring of witches, are always female however.
The pronouns used in a class writeup match those of the iconic character used to illustrate the class.
One of the witch's hexes, prehensile hair, specifically notes that male witches can use whiskers or even eyebrows with the hex.
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I prefer to call my male witches Hexe, which is just German for witch.
To quote Ben Ravencroft from Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost;
"And since Sarah's witch blood runs in my veins, I guess that makes me a warlock!"
I've always liked warlock for male counterpart to a witch. The name really pegs we men's nature to use any skill more offensively, while it would change nothing about the class in play, I can see a Witch over a kettle making a hex to curse a village, while a Warlock might be doing the same thing to a army of soldiers during a battle.
Just my opinion. :)
xD. my question is because in any module I saw a male witch.
I entered a table where there was a male witch and I've been wondering by myself
It should be noted that the witch hex "Prehensile Hair" allows you to use your hair kind of like a third arm. At the end of the paragraph it says:
"A typical male witch with this hex can also manipulate his beard, moustache, or eyebrows."
So Male witches are indeed common. You can have one with a Gnarly beard, and use it to slam attack people with your manliness.
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To draw from real world Wicca, yes there are male witches. No, they are not called warlocks.
To quote Ben Ravencroft from Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost;
"And since Sarah's witch blood runs in my veins, I guess that makes me a warlock!"
I've always liked warlock for male counterpart to a witch. The name really pegs we men's nature to use any skill more offensively, while it would change nothing about the class in play, I can see a Witch over a kettle making a hex to curse a village, while a Warlock might be doing the same thing to a army of soldiers during a battle.
Just my opinion. :)
Until Pathfinder, Warlock was a class... now, in our group at least, Warlocks are male Witches.
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Until Pathfinder, Warlock was a class... now, in our group at least, Warlocks are male Witches.To quote Ben Ravencroft from Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost;
"And since Sarah's witch blood runs in my veins, I guess that makes me a warlock!"
I've always liked warlock for male counterpart to a witch. The name really pegs we men's nature to use any skill more offensively, while it would change nothing about the class in play, I can see a Witch over a kettle making a hex to curse a village, while a Warlock might be doing the same thing to a army of soldiers during a battle.
Just my opinion. :)
Historically though, the word witch isn't gender specific. Men and women alike were accused of, and executed for, being a witch.
The idea that male witches would use the abilities of a witch differently from a woman, or more offensively, and thus needs it's own special distinction from female witches, is completely ridiculous. And doesn't say anything good about the thought processes of those making the statements.
Until Pathfinder, Warlock was a class... now, in our group at least, Warlocks are male Witches.To quote Ben Ravencroft from Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost;
"And since Sarah's witch blood runs in my veins, I guess that makes me a warlock!"
I've always liked warlock for male counterpart to a witch. The name really pegs we men's nature to use any skill more offensively, while it would change nothing about the class in play, I can see a Witch over a kettle making a hex to curse a village, while a Warlock might be doing the same thing to a army of soldiers during a battle.
Just my opinion. :)
Historically though, the word witch isn't gender specific. Men and women alike were accused of, and executed for, being a witch.
The idea that male witches would use the abilities of a witch differently from a woman, or more offensively, and thus needs it's own special distinction from female witches, is completely ridiculous. And doesn't say anything good about the thought processes of those making the statements.
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Wikipedia doesn't agree with youUntil Pathfinder, Warlock was a class... now, in our group at least, Warlocks are male Witches.To quote Ben Ravencroft from Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost;
"And since Sarah's witch blood runs in my veins, I guess that makes me a warlock!"
I've always liked warlock for male counterpart to a witch. The name really pegs we men's nature to use any skill more offensively, while it would change nothing about the class in play, I can see a Witch over a kettle making a hex to curse a village, while a Warlock might be doing the same thing to a army of soldiers during a battle.
Just my opinion. :)
Historically though, the word witch isn't gender specific. Men and women alike were accused of, and executed for, being a witch.
The idea that male witches would use the abilities of a witch differently from a woman, or more offensively, and thus needs it's own special distinction from female witches, is completely ridiculous. And doesn't say anything good about the thought processes of those making the statements.
I'm sorry, I was referring to historical real world uses of the word witch, such as witch trials. Not all the fictional references on wikipedia.
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I'm sorry, I was referring to historical real world uses of the word witch, such as witch trials. Not all the fictional references on wikipedia.Wikipedia doesn't agree with youUntil Pathfinder, Warlock was a class... now, in our group at least, Warlocks are male Witches.To quote Ben Ravencroft from Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost;
"And since Sarah's witch blood runs in my veins, I guess that makes me a warlock!"
I've always liked warlock for male counterpart to a witch. The name really pegs we men's nature to use any skill more offensively, while it would change nothing about the class in play, I can see a Witch over a kettle making a hex to curse a village, while a Warlock might be doing the same thing to a army of soldiers during a battle.
Just my opinion. :)
Historically though, the word witch isn't gender specific. Men and women alike were accused of, and executed for, being a witch.
The idea that male witches would use the abilities of a witch differently from a woman, or more offensively, and thus needs it's own special distinction from female witches, is completely ridiculous. And doesn't say anything good about the thought processes of those making the statements.
And regardless of what is, at least within todays modern culture in the western world I believe people associate witches with the females, not males.
You are not incorrect that both men and women were accused of witch craft, but it was hardly at the same rate. Which is probably why we associate the term more closely with women than men.
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No! The link is wrong. A warlock is an oathbreaker and receiver and that is it.
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The origins of warlock are from the middle engligh word for oathbreaker. The modern usage is a male witch, but that term is offensive to Wiccans. We aren't discussing real world religion here, but the witch class in the game. Let's drop the historical argument that has no bearing on witches and gender on Golarion.
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Wikipedia doesn't agree with you
A better source for historical usage of the term would be wiktionary with mentions that witch comes from Old English wiċċe (“sorceress, witch”) f. and wicca (“witch, sorcerer, warlock”) m. - i.e. the word witch originates from two words, one for female and one for male practitioners of magic. Although going even further back, the proto-germanic wikkōną containes the suffix 'kōną', which usually means 'woman'. Though wiktionary doesn’t mention that.
Using warlock as the word for male users of witchcraft is, as far as I can tell, a rather modern invention. In medieval times, it meant traitor or oath-breaker.
For some settings, I personally use witch for females and witch master for males (or rather häxa och häxmästare in my native swedish), those would be rather sexist settings where the majority considers male witches to be superior to their female counterparts. In other, less sexist and/or more diverse in general, witch and witch master becomes available for both sexes, the latter indicating a stronger witch.
No! The link is wrong. A warlock is an oathbreaker and receiver and that is it.
Sort of. It does mean oath-breaker, but became a generic swearword. Which then was used against (male) witches to the point that it ended up being identified with them.
The origins of warlock are from the middle engligh word for oathbreaker. The modern usage is a male witch, but that term is offensive to Wiccans. We aren't discussing real world religion here, but the witch class in the game. Let's drop the historical argument that has no bearing on witches and gender on Golarion.
I'm just pointing out that calling a male witch a Warlock isn't a mistake, at least according to multiple reputable sources, as shown in my earlier posts.
If someone is OFFENDED by this, take it up with the English language, as I'm just citing sources, not making it up.
The origins of warlock are from the middle engligh word for oathbreaker. The modern usage is a male witch, but that term is offensive to Wiccans. We aren't discussing real world religion here, but the witch class in the game. Let's drop the historical argument that has no bearing on witches and gender on Golarion.I'm just pointing out that calling a male witch a Warlock isn't a mistake, at least according to multiple reputable sources, as shown in my earlier posts.
If someone is OFFENDED by this, take it up with the English language, as I'm just citing sources, not making it up.
Sorry, but to me that is as much of a cop out as blaming Latin for the N word.
No! The link is wrong. A warlock is an oathbreaker and receiver and that is it.
I'm sorry, but you are wrong.
Neither definition is incorrect, they are simply different definitions for different groups of people.
For common people who don't delve into witch, warlocks, sorcery, wizard, or wicca the definition that warlocks are male witches suffices. That it disagrees with wicca's definition (or other definitions) of warlocks as oath breakers etc is irrelevant.
Both are correct, but the interpretation of warlock as male witches is going to ultimately be the commonly understood version of it. I'm sorry if that offends you.
The origins of warlock are from the middle engligh word for oathbreaker. The modern usage is a male witch, but that term is offensive to Wiccans. We aren't discussing real world religion here, but the witch class in the game. Let's drop the historical argument that has no bearing on witches and gender on Golarion.I'm just pointing out that calling a male witch a Warlock isn't a mistake, at least according to multiple reputable sources, as shown in my earlier posts.
If someone is OFFENDED by this, take it up with the English language, as I'm just citing sources, not making it up.
I'm not offended by it, I just think that some peoples need to differentiate their male witches from the female ones says a lot about the players who do so. And that the idea that a different term for a male witch because they are more aggressive, more offense oriented, or someone different than a female witch is laughably ridiculous.
By the great standard of "define: x word" via google: witches are women or modern practitioners of witchcraft or wiccans.
In PF witch is a game term, but it could also fall under the "modern practitioners of witchcraft" definitions (not necessarily the same thing as wiccan)
Witchcraft is broadly defined as the practice of magic, and from a character's perspective, their time is modern. Thus you could have male witches in a PF setting even using the modern understanding of the word.
I've seen "wix" adopted by some people as a gender neutral term for "witch".
Sorry, but to me that is as much of a cop out as blaming Latin for the N word.The origins of warlock are from the middle engligh word for oathbreaker. The modern usage is a male witch, but that term is offensive to Wiccans. We aren't discussing real world religion here, but the witch class in the game. Let's drop the historical argument that has no bearing on witches and gender on Golarion.I'm just pointing out that calling a male witch a Warlock isn't a mistake, at least according to multiple reputable sources, as shown in my earlier posts.
If someone is OFFENDED by this, take it up with the English language, as I'm just citing sources, not making it up.
You can't be serious... are you serious?
You can't be serious... are you serious?Sorry, but to me that is as much of a cop out as blaming Latin for the N word.The origins of warlock are from the middle engligh word for oathbreaker. The modern usage is a male witch, but that term is offensive to Wiccans. We aren't discussing real world religion here, but the witch class in the game. Let's drop the historical argument that has no bearing on witches and gender on Golarion.I'm just pointing out that calling a male witch a Warlock isn't a mistake, at least according to multiple reputable sources, as shown in my earlier posts.
If someone is OFFENDED by this, take it up with the English language, as I'm just citing sources, not making it up.
Look up the Latin word for black.
I find the common modern understanding of the word warlock to be highly offensive and that it needs to go away.
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You can't be serious... are you serious?Sorry, but to me that is as much of a cop out as blaming Latin for the N word.The origins of warlock are from the middle engligh word for oathbreaker. The modern usage is a male witch, but that term is offensive to Wiccans. We aren't discussing real world religion here, but the witch class in the game. Let's drop the historical argument that has no bearing on witches and gender on Golarion.I'm just pointing out that calling a male witch a Warlock isn't a mistake, at least according to multiple reputable sources, as shown in my earlier posts.
If someone is OFFENDED by this, take it up with the English language, as I'm just citing sources, not making it up.
Look up the Latin word for black.
I find the common modern understanding of the word warlock to be highly offensive and that it needs to go away.
I find the common modern understanding of the word warlock to be highly offensive and that it needs to go away.
That's nice and all, but even the N-word never went away. And I doubt people are going to start losing their jobs over calling people warlocks.
Maybe if we had a long recent history of investing tons of resources just to make the lives of people called warlock lives really difficult, then the word could see a ban.
Now excuse me as I pine over my 3.5 warlock and 5e warlock thanking jebus that my home country didn't enslave/Jim-Crow-law/redline/firebomb/ghetto warlocks for hundreds of years.
I am not saying that the two words are equally hateful, but dismissing my objection by saying just blame English is highly dismissive.
I find the common modern understanding of the word warlock to be highly offensive and that it needs to go away.That's nice and all, but even the N-word never went away. And I doubt people are going to start losing their jobs over calling people warlocks.
Maybe if we had a long recent history of investing tons of resources just to make the lives of people called warlock lives really difficult, then the word could see a ban.
Now excuse me as I pine over my 3.5 warlock and 5e warlock thanking jebus that my home country didn't enslave/Jim-Crow-law/redline/firebomb/ghetto warlocks for hundreds of years.
Umm, Wicca required a US Supreme Court intervention to fight an attempt to declare it not a real religion. If you think that Wiccans have not faced persecution that is only because it does not make the news.
Umm, Wicca required a US Supreme Court intervention to fight an attempt to declare it not a real religion. If you think that Wiccans have not faced persecution that is only because it does not make the news.
I didn't say that.
I said it hasn't reached the threshold required for word bans. Being ignored or denied does not constitute a word ban. The modern standard seems to be that people have to murder you while calling you a derogatory word. Even then, they also have to get away with it. There has to be a long history of it just being OK to kill people like that. Where juries would consistently vote not-guilty because the person was considered a sub-human <insert word>.
I prefer the term "man-witch"
Only works if you have the Cook People hex >:)
I am not saying that the two words are equally hateful, but dismissing my objection by saying just blame English is highly dismissive.
I find it odd that you would get so wound up over an existing (and accepted) definition of something.
Does anyone else find this commonly used word offensive?
I'm talking about "Warlock".
Truthfully, I've always assumed that "Witch" was the feminine form...
But maybe that's just because I speak English.
This reminds me of hyper-feminists who claim that differentiating sexes in language is oppressive (using 'he' and 'she').
Ludicrous.
It's language, it developed organically, and will always do so. Just because a small group finds part of it offensive doesn't mean it will (or should) be changed.
Comparing it to the racial slur you referenced earlier was not required, please don't try to escalate this thread into THAT sort of conversation.
Just use Witch and Witcher.
I am not saying that the two words are equally hateful, but dismissing my objection by saying just blame English is highly dismissive.
Your avatar is amazingly apropos.
Chapter 1 of Reign of Winter, The Snows of Summer, has a male witch as the final boss.
I'm sure there's other male witches in other products, though the bulk of statted-up witches are female.
Last I heard, warlock is the be arcane-using Vigilante subclass. I have no idea if that's been changed.
(Warlock is also a specific class in 3.5E, 4E, and 5E, with female warlocks being called warlocks. WotC and Paizo appear to in agreement on witch and warlock actually being separate classes.)
Does anyone remember if 3.5 had an actual witch class? I remember witch being the sample "here's how to make a class" class in one of the editions, but I don't remember if I'm getting 2E or 3E mixed up there.
Chapter 1 of Reign of Winter, The Snows of Summer, has a male witch as the final boss.
I'm sure there's other male witches in other products, though the bulk of statted-up witches are female.
Last I heard, warlock is the be arcane-using Vigilante subclass. I have no idea if that's been changed.
(Warlock is also a specific class in 3.5E, 4E, and 5E, with female warlocks being called warlocks. WotC and Paizo appear to in agreement on witch and warlock actually being separate classes.)
Does anyone remember if 3.5 had an actual witch class? I remember witch being the sample "here's how to make a class" class in one of the editions, but I don't remember if I'm getting 2E or 3E mixed up there.
I think that it was a popular 3PP class.
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I prefer to call my male witches Hexe, which is just German for witch.
If you want to be 100% correct, it would be 'Hexer', in German female and male terms are often slightly different. But switching to another language is a good idea.
Translations into German can be confusing though:
Witch becomes 'Hexe'.
Sorcerer becomes 'Hexenmeister' (master of witches?!).
3.5 warlock became 'Hexer' (male witch?!).
Usually you are better off with the English original. A notable exception would be 'race trait' and 'racial trait' which can easily be confused. They turn into 'Wesenszüge (Volk)' and 'Volksmerkmale'.
Remember that the word witch was never a self-descriptive term, but a word applied to them by those seeking to put competition to local priests out of buisness.
It's etymology is pretty muddy but the closest is the verb "bewitch", to enchant, to put somone under a spell of fascination or curse.
I prefer to call my male witches Hexe, which is just German for witch.If you want to be 100% correct, it would be 'Hexer', in German female and male terms are often slightly different. But switching to another language is a good idea.
Translations into German can be confusing though:
Witch becomes 'Hexe'.
Sorcerer becomes 'Hexenmeister' (master of witches?!).
3.5 warlock became 'Hexer' (male witch?!).Usually you are better off with the English original. A notable exception would be 'race trait' and 'racial trait' which can easily be confused. They turn into 'Wesenszüge (Volk)' and 'Volksmerkmale'.
Hexenmeister is awesome, I'm using that from now on.
To add some positive, I do like that Paizo drew both from Wicca witches and fairytale villain witches.
To add some positive, I do like that Paizo drew both from Wicca witches and fairytale villain witches.
I wish they had put more detail into Druids, to be honest... the description seems a bit... Dry. Some people apparently thought Merlin was a Druid (Shapechanging and such... it sorta fits).
What are your feelings on the Witch class archetypes? Got a favorite?
(I've always liked the Hedge Witch myself).
To add some positive, I do like that Paizo drew both from Wicca witches and fairytale villain witches.I wish they had put more detail into Druids, to be honest... the description seems a bit... Dry. Some people apparently thought Merlin was a Druid (Shapechanging and such... it sorta fits).
What are your feelings on the Witch class archetypes? Got a favorite?
(I've always liked the Hedge Witch myself).
I feel that the archetypes only add to the diversity. I am a big fan of the Mountain Witch myself.