Phantom,
I'm not sure Jay Garrick is scuttled. I still think it MIGHT be possible that Jay Garrick is actually....** spoiler omitted **
See what I did there?
That would make me so very... very happy.
We'll see come the end of this season. I'm sure it will be revealed who the man in the Iron Mask is.
Well, they've gotten rid of two of the worst bits of stupid. The ones with wings.
Now if they could just make it so Ray isn't stupid and Firestorm is more...Firestorm.
Plus you know, more JSA is nice. *think Doctor Mid-nite and Sandman might be showing up*
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With season 2 featuring the Justice Society I might be reeled back in - provided they can tone the stupids down. I left feeling that the amount of plot induced stupidity required for one episode if Legends was the same needed for 2 episodes of Flash AND Arrow. I can understand a little, but when I start to question the base competence of every cast member it's too much.
Well their stupid was explained by the occulus and the time masters manipulating them.
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I kind of agree with Feral. Get someone else if you need more power. Like POWER GIRL!
Re-watching Scott Pilgrim vs The World, and maybe the whole Legends of Tomorrow crew should go vegan.
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Legendary sci-fi actor Lance Henriksen to play JSA hero in Legends of Tomorrow
Not the role I would have expected....
Yeah if nothing else I'd expect him to play Hawkman or hell, Alan Scott.
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Young actors playing JSA members, old actors doing Infinity, Inc. roles?
"It's a madhouse! A madhouse!"
-- Charlton Heston, Planet of the Apes
Well it's not THAT bad just REALLY weird...
Bjorn,
Maybe they gotten written out of the history books after the Johnson administration. Or someone did a timeline wipe.
I liked it, but am not enthralled with the new "leader", who seems "generic CW actor #535" so far. Would have preferred Rip Hunter stick around.
MMC,
There's no indication that Rick Heywood will be the one in charge. If anything I'm betting on Sara taking the reins.
Grey,
Maybe but I see him more as the Jayne of this group. Willing to do what it takes to see the mission through, not necessarily the most moral of guys. Ethical probably, but morals...not so much.
I still think Sara is going to lead this team against the Legion of Doom/League of Doom. Mostly because she wants Darkh's head on a spit.
What that means after that? Who knows...
Marik,
Not sure Ray is ready yet. He might be next season but I keep seeing Sara running things this season. Until she screws up big time.
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Given that he's now the fixer-of-the-ship, and less likely to go off into flighty distractable science-mode than Gilligan or the Professor, or psycho-vengeance mode than Mary-Ann, or let's blow s*++ up mode than not-Jayne-Cobb, perhaps Jefferson will end up taking on an unexpected leadership role.
Hm!! Now there's an idea. Not sure about it but it's more sensible than the other suggestion, Set. I just wonder since he's one half of the Firestorm matrix, how that will work out...
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I don't know what it is, but when Mick calls Ray "Haircut" in the middle of a fire fight, it just gives me such hope for the show and its potential.
Also, Damien and Eobard are my two favorite villains from CW DC shows so far, and seeing them together was delightful. I hope those two get a good deal of screen time this season, because I don't know how they could go wrong.
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I'm gonna guess Stein makes a play for leadership in the next episode or two, but it quickly becomes apparent that Sara is the one stepping up to take charge in crisis situations. Longer term... hard to say. I doubt they are done introducing new characters for the season, so there will be a lot of unknown variables which could influence who is calling the shots in the medium and long term.
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I'm not sure how the dynamic is going to play out, or if it is anything but a disaster in the making for this particular band of jokers to have access to a time ship. (Granted, they can't be any more of a danger to the timestream than Barry Frikkin' Allen...)
I'm just glad that Rip is gone, at least for now. I could not stand that guy, and his daily voice-over reminding us of his dead wife and child.
Agreed. Dum Dum wasn't given enough to work with. I'd love to see Neal McDonough to run some more Dugan especially now that LMDs are a thing.
So thoughts on last night's episode?
Firestorm SHOULD be the team's powerhouse. Instead, most of the time, the team splits in two, with Jefferson and Stein being on different teams. And like Bjorn said, e,ven when they're together, he mostly just flies around without actually doing anything. I know it's because of the cost of CGI, but at least give a better excuse for it in-show than just utter stupidity.
Yeah I feel the same way since in the comics, Firestorm had actual abilities to compete with the same level as freaking Superman and Wonder Woman or even just Green Lantern.
At least the JSA is doing alright...barring that kill by Thawne.
I do wonder what the hell his plan is...
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I think the inclusion of Firestorm as a core member is generally a bad idea. Using him on the regular will cripple the budget but consistently coming up with reasons for him to 'sit out' just feels contrived. The best answer is to just omit him and bring him in on special occasions.
Is this show less stupid now than it was last season where they ran around trying to figure out how to find Vandal Savage in time while knowing full well exactly where he'd have been at the time of the Flash/Arrow crossover and having a team member who had been killed by him numerous times throughout history?
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It's still plenty stupid but there's certainly less stupid.
The hawkpeople are gone. This both helped with the cast bloat and reduced the highest concentration of drama/idiotball. Captain Cold and Rip are also gone - the latter also being a nexus of drama.
There's still plenty of silly time travel stuff but otherwise what's left is shamelessly comicbooky in a way that works pretty well.
What Feral said. I will also add that it's less stupid now that they have a strong foil in the form of the Legion of Doom versus one guy.
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RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16
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So at the end of the episode
Joel,
I think that will probably be addressed down the line. At least I hope so.
Phoebee,
I think they're saving him for a Blue Beetle team up and their own show.
I could be wrong though!
Joel,
It might be. I forget things after a while.
I like Mick so much. He was an absolute treat this episode.
"What he meant was, 'thank you for your hospitality, but we have to go'."
<flat, deadpan Mick voice> "No. I didn't."
Also, Ray and Nate were great as well.
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All in all, I'd say I probably enjoyed this episode of Legends more than any other thus far.
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Indeed, the whole ninja thing was pretty awesome to add in.
Even if this was essentially a filler episode.
Well it didn't advance the plot all that much, Joel. But yes it did do the steel intro pretty well. Vixen was kind of a known quantity to me.