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Feros Champion Voter Season 6, Champion Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Champion Voter Season 9 |

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Feros wrote:Just over half-way to Champion! Time for a small break. :)Guess I will need to stop slaking off as I am only at ~1800 votes
Not sure where I am at, my laptop blue screened and my counter did not recover properly. Probably between the both of you, somewhere closer to Azouth though.

Feros Champion Voter Season 6, Champion Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Champion Voter Season 9 |

Feros wrote:Each time I see this item, movie music comes up in my head along with some very scenery-chewing acting.Ennio Morricone?
Hey, the acting in the spaghetti westerns wasn't that bad!
...OK, the little kid in Fist Full of Dollars could take a hike, but they're not that bad overall!
No if I identify the movie and the music, I give away the item. Can't do that. :/

Feros Champion Voter Season 6, Champion Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Champion Voter Season 9 |

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Jacob W. Michaels RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka motteditor |

R D Ramsey Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Clouds Without Water |

Nazard Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 |

I'm biased against items that come in pairs and are meant to be used by different characters.
I'm also biased against random tables and scalable items, though maybe I shouldn't be.
Given that people have been entering items like those for years, and every year the judges and voters mostly pan each and every one of them, I think you're okay.
If past experience is reliable, judges and voters have also been vehemently against items that: make camping safer, exchange class abilities, turn alchemical or magical consumables into multiples of themselves, and/or require you to die to use them.
All of which have multiple representatives yet again this year.
Edit: Oh, and items that do the players' work for them, like find clues, track inventory, or make dungeon maps.
Edit 2: What? I just hit Marathon?? I had no idea I'd been voting that much!

michael patrick RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka michaeljpatrick |

michael patrick RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka michaeljpatrick |

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Jacob W. Michaels RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka motteditor |

R D Ramsey Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Clouds Without Water |

Jacob Trier RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 |

Paul Brown RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 8 aka Isaac Duplechain |

mplindustries Marathon Voter Season 8 |

If past experience is reliable, judges and voters have also been vehemently against items that: make camping safer, exchange class abilities, turn alchemical or magical consumables into multiples of themselves, and/or require you to die to use them.
I completely understand disliking the others, but why, may I ask, do people dislike camping items so much? I didn't create one, but I have voted for them a few times.

Anthony Adam Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 |

Nazard wrote:If past experience is reliable, judges and voters have also been vehemently against items that: make camping safer, exchange class abilities, turn alchemical or magical consumables into multiples of themselves, and/or require you to die to use them.I completely understand disliking the others, but why, may I ask, do people dislike camping items so much? I didn't create one, but I have voted for them a few times.
Some of it probably has a lot to do with what camping is. It's down time for the character. They rest. Then time winds forward to the morning. They wake and continue their adventures.
Items that are camping items tend to be alarm based, auto watching based, tents, campfires, and generally very boring for one of the quiet moments of the game.
With RPG SUperstar, we are looking for the designers that can excite and thrill. A camping item isn't that - maybe an item that creeps in and explodes when it reaches the fire might be fun, but generally, camping items are boring/utility items. Often it will be shiny tent vs Mega item of doom. Mega item of doom will always be more exciting >.<.
Anyways, I have set up my mini portable mansion complete with armed guards, so do come in and have a cup of fresh mint tea that's always ready when it is placed. There is also a voting stool here too, padded and very comfy.

Jacob Trier RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 |

Oh, so you're the Harry Dresden item.
I've never read Harry Dresden myself, but I'm pretty sure I know the type of item refereed to, and that I've just seen it myself.
I actually ended up voting for it. I doubt it stands a chance to make Top 32 due to the risk of IP violation, but it's not a poorly designed item.

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Feros Champion Voter Season 6, Champion Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Champion Voter Season 9 |

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Nazard wrote:If past experience is reliable, judges and voters have also been vehemently against items that: make camping safer, exchange class abilities, turn alchemical or magical consumables into multiples of themselves, and/or require you to die to use them.I completely understand disliking the others, but why, may I ask, do people dislike camping items so much? I didn't create one, but I have voted for them a few times.
What Anthony said, plus those types of items become part of the arms race, dictating play style to the GM.
Nighttime camp ambushes are a tried and true tactic for GMs to use, either for story elements, or a random encounter. But now the players have this doohickey that completely negates them, so the GM has to find a way to get past it, which means the PCs spent a ton of money for nothing.

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Nazard wrote:If past experience is reliable, judges and voters have also been vehemently against items that: make camping safer, exchange class abilities, turn alchemical or magical consumables into multiples of themselves, and/or require you to die to use them.I completely understand disliking the others, but why, may I ask, do people dislike camping items so much? I didn't create one, but I have voted for them a few times.
I don't have a problem with camping items. A lot of my characters have camping items, like the instant tent and the sleeping bag. However; I believe the majority of camping items fall into the "good for a book of magic items" category. As mentioned before, they aren't superstar, they don't WOW!
To show some serious design MOJO with a camping item is very difficult and I don't think there has ever been one that has had enough MOJO to break through.... CHALLENGE accepted! Next year's first round will be a camping item!... Maybe....

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Azouth Champion Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 |

I don't think I understand what makes something "Superstar" if something useful and practical doesn't count.
It can be useful and practical but it needs more to it.
Look at Snapleaf
It is useful but has that cool, this is different also.

mplindustries Marathon Voter Season 8 |

Yeah, see, that looks very practical and useful. I don't really see why it's especially "exciting" though, or rather more exciting than camping items.
Why is making falls safer more "superstar" than making camping safe? Or an item with some other boring but practical effect?
Frankly, I would be way less likely to use a consumable like Snapleaf anyway--I hate single or limited use items.

Nazard Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 |

Yeah, see, that looks very practical and useful. I don't really see why it's especially "exciting" though, or rather more exciting than camping items.
Why is making falls safer more "superstar" than making camping safe? Or an item with some other boring but practical effect?
Frankly, I would be way less likely to use a consumable like Snapleaf anyway--I hate single or limited use items.
You aren't alone. Not understanding that special something is why lots of us have entered year after year, making technically-solid items, and still have only voter tags after our names.

mplindustries Marathon Voter Season 8 |

mplindustries wrote:You aren't alone. Not understanding that special something is why lots of us have entered year after year, making technically-solid items, and still have only voter tags after our names.Yeah, see, that looks very practical and useful. I don't really see why it's especially "exciting" though, or rather more exciting than camping items.
Why is making falls safer more "superstar" than making camping safe? Or an item with some other boring but practical effect?
Frankly, I would be way less likely to use a consumable like Snapleaf anyway--I hate single or limited use items.
Does anyone get it? Can they point to, say, a weapon that already exists in the game that would be "Superstar?"

Azouth Champion Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 |

How about theses two, bow of ashes or devil's key.

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Although a lot of people didn't think my item from last year was Superstar, the judges liked it very much. It wasn't the technical aspect of my item that impressed them. In fact I screwed up some of the technical which is why one judge downvoted it.
I think the flavor and the different mechanics is what made it standout to the judges. In the end all my item did was give some skill bonuses for social encounters and allow a party to plant rumors.
It was the manner in which the power was applied, decribed and explained that made it Superstar.

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Nazard wrote:If past experience is reliable, judges and voters have also been vehemently against items that: make camping safer, exchange class abilities, turn alchemical or magical consumables into multiples of themselves, and/or require you to die to use them.I completely understand disliking the others, but why, may I ask, do people dislike camping items so much? I didn't create one, but I have voted for them a few times.
There was more discussion in the advice from judges didn't like camping items (as a sub-category of "items that make adventuring safe").

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Staff that I despise, why do you haunt me so ?
I end up favoring even subpar items over you.
Then you need to take a break, because the whole point is to pick the better item, regardless of your personal opinion of said item. I've voted for a lot of bloody, gross, and offensive items because they were still better than the wondrous items or other incomplete entries that they were up against.
In the end, only 32 go on, but if you're going to volunteer to vote, you should do it correctly.

Azouth Champion Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 |

The black raven wrote:Staff that I despise, why do you haunt me so ?
I end up favoring even subpar items over you.
Then you need to take a break, because the whole point is to pick the better item, regardless of your personal opinion of said item. I've voted for a lot of bloody, gross, and offensive items because they were still better than the wondrous items or other incomplete entries that they were up against.
In the end, only 32 go on, but if you're going to volunteer to vote, you should do it correctly.
That said you are voting on what items you think is better. You are free to use any criteria you want to determine which item you think is better.