AURA moderate transmutation
Upon drinking this elixir, a character changes sex, permanently transforming into a member of a different biological sex. While the user’s physiology changes dramatically and the user’s features adjust slightly to take on the qualities of the new sex, the character is still recognizable as the same person. The character has only minor control over the specific details of this new appearance, and the elixir grants no benefit on Disguise skill checks or similar checks.
This elixir’s magic functions instantaneously and can’t be dispelled, though drinking a second elixir of sex shift reverts the character back to the former sex and appearance. The elixir has no effect on characters who are pregnant or are of races with no sexual differentiation. Characters of races with more than two sexes may decide which sex this elixir transforms them into.
CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS
COST 1,125 GP
Craft Wondrous Items, polymorph
= List your best uses
Im thinking of every night that my alchemist goes to bed and has remaining alchemical allocations that I will drink the elixir of sex shift and suprise my party members the next adventuring day. I can use sleeves of many garmets to change my outfits and since my character is barbarian/alchemist hulk type build maybe mix in some RP with this.
Anyone else have some suggestions?
If you do it really quick can you...
...nevermind.
Actually...Monk of the Four Winds could.
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Since it doesn't give any Disguise bonuses or anything, it's largely an amusing RP trick. That said, it could be a cool thing for a genderfluid character to allow them to change their body to fit their mood.
Since it doesn't give any Disguise bonuses or anything, it's largely an amusing RP trick. That said, it could be a cool thing for a genderfluid character to allow them to change their body to fit their mood.
I was thinking of picking up another type of mutagen (right now have normal and feral) and then I would limit the mutagen I used to the sex of the character that day. For example, when male, I'll only use feral mutagen but would use different mutagen when female. Could take switch-hitter to a whole new level :)
I'm confused - what exactly is the purpose of an Elixir of Sex Shift?
If someone wanted to play a male, wouldn't they simply make a male character? If someone wanted to play a woman, wouldn't they simply make a female character? Permanently changing someone else's sex against their will would seem to be an evil act... so what am I missing?
As I said in that other thread, Duncan, you are a sick and twisted individual.
Thanks. Compliments are always welcomed.
@Wiggz Generally, I think you are correct. However, there can be some fun RP with this. (I dont want this thread to turn into a transgender discussion) there are RL examples of sex changes that portions of the Pathfinder community may want to explore in game so the inclusion of this item allows them to do that.
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I'm confused - what exactly is the purpose of an Elixir of Sex Shift?
If someone wanted to play a male, wouldn't they simply make a male character? If someone wanted to play a woman, wouldn't they simply make a female character? Permanently changing someone else's sex against their will would seem to be an evil act... so what am I missing?
A player may choose to role-play the experience of a character whose childhood experience is that of having a different gender then the one they are biologically identified as. 2500 gp is a lot of gold for a farm boy or farm girl, and most npc villagers are naive to the kinds of things magic can do. So the characters motivation for leaving might be the same reasons so many of people in the real world experiencing this might choose to leave home. They may be confused, or their might be abuse, or lack of acceptance. So that character may leave to become an adventure, and discovering that such an elixir exists to questing to attain it, becomes an arc that a player may wish to role-play. I would go so far as to speculate that many youths who are experiencing this in the real world, may find exploring it in a safe/role-playing setting to some degree therapeutic or fulfilling.
Said simpler, this is a role-playing item, not a mechanical item, and some people may want to role-play the process of changing genders.
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I'm confused - what exactly is the purpose of an Elixir of Sex Shift?
If someone wanted to play a male, wouldn't they simply make a male character? If someone wanted to play a woman, wouldn't they simply make a female character? Permanently changing someone else's sex against their will would seem to be an evil act... so what am I missing?
If you're hit with a Girdle of Opposite Gender from an older module, or perhaps you get killed by a trap that wakes you in a clone that isn't your gender (actually in an Adventure Path), or simply decide you want something odd to happen to your character...why is it a bad thing to have something like this that LET'S you?
As an aside, I identify as transgender, so I'm a bit biased.
Actually, I know of one RL occurence where they did just that, i.e. chose to come ingame and address their sexual identity issues. In fact, I think they had a charity drive to raise money for the person's medical procedures.
That aside, as I dont want this to turn into a debate on the merits or lack thereof regarding transgender items, the item is in game and I'm trying to think of some fun uses for it. My character doesnt have a sexual identity crisis but wanted to have some ingame fun with this item.
One could concievably try to trick those less informed about the arcane into drinking this and have them do something for them for the remedy. If they were inclined to the sneaky.
Perhaps for odd fun, gather multiple goblets, fill one with elixer, others with wine. Do the hokey pokey and mix them all about, someone becomes the opposite gender at random.
Maybe the elixer is offered at pricey houses of ill repute... for reasons. I'll leave it at that.
Have 2 animals of the same gender, but you want more? Elixer could potentially solve that problem... maybe...
Allocation. Hmm. Perhaps a polymorph effect. You spit it up acting like it tasted horrible or you think you mixed up potions and just realized it. Then you turn into a lama.
Note: Mispelled Exlixir and possibly other things. Using phone for this so not an easy fix. Apologies to those that my grammar and bad spelling hurt.
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It may not say it gives a bonus to disguise, but if the assassins (or the palace guards, if you're the assassin) are looking for gender XX, and you're now an XY?
"Stop that woman! She looks like this wanted poster, if you shave off the beard and pluck the brows a bit..."
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A friend of mine who is a genius at character building has this thing for making courtessans. Double the business!
Another thing to consider is the trait Charming. That would be a great RP tool.
Faceman meets the NPC Guard, who's a woman, and tries to charm his way into the kings court. NPC Guard says no on all accounts, but mentions the blond Barbarian with no skills in Diplomacy would have a better chance at sweet talking their way past her.
Faceman becomes Facewoman, changing his/her clothing and saving the potion for later, just in case.
Facewoman and NPC Guard reunite after Facewoman saves the kingdom and they settle down for a life of relaxation.
That's my two copper, anyway.
EDIT: I did a little research, and I've got a question for you, Duncan. Where did you find this elixir? I can't seem to find it for Pathfinder, or table-top RPGs. There is an elixir of sex change for Fable, but I can't find it for the setting we're in. Did you make that up?
Sorry Chris. I didn't realize some people considered trap, in this context, to be derogatory. No offense was intended.
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Interesting to see they future proofed for 3+ sex species.
"elixir grants no benefit on Disguise skill checks"
That's just means no extra bonuses right. It DOES negate the -2 for "Disguised as different gender" right?
Also: Poisoner’s Gloves.
You wouldn't need a disguise to appear as your (new) gender, because you are that gender. You would have a -2 to disguise to appear as your old gender.
Edit: as for the future genders, with the release of the Technology Guide, I'm calling a Star Trek/Pathfinder crossover. The multiple gender issue is for the Andorians.
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That would be true if it was the only thing you were disguising, but it's very easy for it not to be (like a specific person, or a different age category as well)
Those make no difference though. It would be no more difficult for someone who was born male and took the elixir to use disguise to appear as a specific other woman than someone who had been born female.
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Off the top of my head, I'm thinking that the best use for this would be as an amazing supplement to the Disguise Self spell.
DS gives a visual illusion, but without the touch and audible traits to back it up. Sure, the Potion/Garment combo won't add to your disguise check numbers, but they will help you physically transform into the disguise you're taking on, even if it's simple, vague shapes. And it's much better than a male adventurer trying to use a tight corset and a pair of apples to aid his Duchess disguise.
Doesn't Pathfinder RPG already have a concoction of some sort that allows permanent gender shifting?
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Doesn't Pathfinder RPG already have a concoction of some sort that allows permanent gender shifting?
Its alluded to in Wrath of the Righteous, but apparently there was a big enough need to make it officially available.
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Actually, I know of one RL occurence where they did just that, i.e. chose to come ingame and address their sexual identity issues. In fact, I think they had a charity drive to raise money for the person's medical procedures.
Yeah, roleplay can really help process and come to terms with certain things. Cathartic too.
Am I the only one that went "Woohoo, more Arshea's goodies!" as soon as I saw the Elixir of Sex Shift?
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Is there a potion to grow facial hair? I'm thinking of all those evil parallel universes where the evil versions had goatees.
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Sorry Chris. I didn't realize some people considered trap, in this context, to be derogatory. No offense was intended.
Yeah! That's our word! :P
I happen to identify as genderfluid, and while that word wouldn't offend me personally, I'm sure it would bother some.
Now, I do get offended by pit traps.
fun fact: there's no save for the elixer.
pop it on a syringe spear and force it on the unwilling.
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fun fact: there's no save for the elixer.
pop it on a syringe spear and force it on the unwilling.
And now my mind starts rolling.
Say you're being attacked by a group of Orcs (first thing to come to mind) that believe women/females are only for having kids and keeping the camp clean. Leader is the biggest, baddest, most heroic (in the eyes of the Orcs) Orc you've ever seen.
Spear and Elixir is thrown.
How would the Orcs react if their High Commander all of a sudden grew breasts for feeding the young and his powerful beard disappeared?
Is there a potion to grow facial hair?
There is a spell. Ironbeard. And there is nothing saying the target has to be male.
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"Why are you casting beguiling gift on the priest of erastil and why are you laughing..."
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"I've got good news and bad news my prince! Good news: I've arranged a royal marriage that will bring peace to our lands!
" Whats the bad news?
"you lost the coin toss. Drink up.
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Not sure which light fingered party member is stealing your healing potions? Label it "Potion of cure serious wounds"
Would this count as a potion for the Chalice of Communal Dweomer?
as a standard action that provokes attacks of opportunity. The bearer and up to two willing allies within 30 feet gain
the benefits as though they had consumed the potion; however, the duration is divided evenly between all recipients
(including the bearer), rounded down to the nearest round
I would wager that RAW, it would not, as it's a wondrous item, not a potion. That being said, I can see a party of bards doing variety shows being absolutely magnificent with that. Combine with tearaway clothing and/or sleeves of many garments to change roles and costumes for the entire troupe without ever leaving the stage.
Although it's ambiguous, I'd say no as:
a duration longer than instantaneous into the chalice,
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Upon drinking this elixir, a character changes sex, permanently transforming into a member of a different biological sex.
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This elixir’s magic functions instantaneously and can’t be dispelled, though drinking a second elixir of sex shift reverts the character back to the former sex and appearance.
Although it says it permanently transforms, the magic is "instantaneous".
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It is indeed the same elixir that played a key role in the first Wrath of the Righteous adventure. We probably SHOULD have gone ahead and just put it in there... but frankly, I much prefer it being in Advanced Class Guide since that gets out to SO many more people than an Adventure Path. ;-)
