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Additional Resources has been updated! :)
This has probably been asked before, but I'm not sure what the ruling is, because they were talking about aasimar/tiefling boons in the past tense...I have a few aasimar characters from before they cut off Aasimar/tiefling characters from "always available" resources. Does that let me create characters that are aasimar? or just keep playing the ones I have?
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Additional Resources has been updated! :)
One more question: Where it says that the Varisian Idol is not allowed in the list of either Rise of the Runelords player's guide or Curse of the Crimson Throne Player's Guide, the other doesn't say it, but has the Varisian Idol as well on the listed pages. Is this an error?
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You have to have played the PC prior to the cutoff date - just GM credit is not enough.
That's not true, unless this was further clarified. GM credit is okay as long as the intent was noted.
The Occult Mysteries playtest was run that way, though.
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Additional Resources has been updated! :)One more question: Where it says that the Varisian Idol is not allowed in the list of either Rise of the Runelords player's guide or Curse of the Crimson Throne Player's Guide, the other doesn't say it, but has the Varisian Idol as well on the listed pages. Is this an error?
I suspect that it is a mistake, because it is also explicitly banned in Varisia, Birthplace of Legends. I would advise against depending on or purchasing this item.
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One more question: Where it says that the Varisian Idol is not allowed in the list of either Rise of the Runelords player's guide or Curse of the Crimson Throne Player's Guide, the other doesn't say it, but has the Varisian Idol as well on the listed pages. Is this an error?The two sources have different Varisian Idols.
There don't appear to be any rules differences as far as I can tell, though. The Varisian idols have different descriptions, but only in the descriptive text as far as I can tell.
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There don't appear to be any rules differences as far as I can tell, though. The Varisian idols have different descriptions, but only in the descriptive text as far as I can tell.One more question: Where it says that the Varisian Idol is not allowed in the list of either Rise of the Runelords player's guide or Curse of the Crimson Throne Player's Guide, the other doesn't say it, but has the Varisian Idol as well on the listed pages. Is this an error?The two sources have different Varisian Idols.
Crimson Throne has these rules for the item:
Varisian Idol: These depictions of forgotten spirits can
be used to augment summoning magic. If used as an additional
material component for any summon monster or
summon nature’s ally spell, the summoned creature has an
additional +2 hit points per Hit Die.
Varisian Idol: Scavenged from rare uneroded Varisian monuments,
these depictions of forgotten spirits can be used to augment
summoning magic. If used as an additional material component
for any summon monster or summon nature’s ally spell, the summoned
creature has an additional +2 hit points per Hit Die.
It is mechanically identical to the varisian idol in Rise of the Runelords players guide, but much different than the varisian idol in Varisia, Birthplace of Legends.
Would be easier to not take it.
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Something for whomever is approving Melee Tactics Toolbox to consider; the book contains a number of items that are explicitly described as alchemic, but none of them have crafting DCs.
Response on that HERE; they're DC 25.
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Additional Resources has been updated with the Melee Tactics Toolbox.
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Just wondering, does anyone know if there are plans to add PFS chronicles to the Kingmaker Adventure Path (and make parts of the PFS legal to play?), like they have for most of the other adventure paths?
There are, indeed, plans, IIRC. Note that the older APs are being done in reverse order, from most recent backwards; and that they are being done in an "as time allows" fashion, when they get time between other projects, like sanctioning the newer APs, modules and scenarios.
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Just wondering, does anyone know if there are plans to add PFS chronicles to the Kingmaker Adventure Path (and make parts of the PFS legal to play?), like they have for most of the other adventure paths?There are, indeed, plans, IIRC. Note that the older APs are being done in reverse order, from most recent backwards; and that they are being done in an "as time allows" fashion, when they get time between other projects, like sanctioning the newer APs, modules and scenarios.
Not that they're exactly speedy on the newer AP's either.
I would like a clarification on the use of authorized material, one from a fully legal book (field guide) compared to the segment in one that isn't fully listed (Monster Codex).
The question I have is Grenadier. It is legal in the Field guide, but not listed as authorized in the monster codex although everything about it is the same minus the initial title that states "The following archetype is common among hobgoblin alchemists, who wish to maximize their destruction."
So it is stated in a fully authorized source, but not part of the list in the other segmented source. Can I use the segmented source as proof of resource? And will this work for other items that are worded the same?
(if I misread the class then please correct me and I'll take the lashes).
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I would like a clarification on the use of authorized material, one from a fully legal book (field guide) compared to the segment in one that isn't fully listed (Monster Codex).
The question I have is Grenadier. It is legal in the Field guide, but not listed as authorized in the monster codex although everything about it is the same minus the initial title that states "The following archetype is common among hobgoblin alchemists, who wish to maximize their destruction."
So it is stated in a fully authorized source, but not part of the list in the other segmented source. Can I use the segmented source as proof of resource? And will this work for other items that are worded the same?
(if I misread the class then please correct me and I'll take the lashes).
Are you just asking because you currently own the Monster Codex but not the Field Guide? I think the answer is no, you need to own the Field Guide.
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The question I have is Grenadier. It is legal in the Field guide, but not listed as authorized in the monster codex although everything about it is the same minus the initial title that states "The following archetype is common among hobgoblin alchemists, who wish to maximize their destruction."
... or, as an alternate phrasing to the Powers-That-Be: as the text of the alchemist grenadier archtype in the Monster Codex appears to be exactly the same text as that appearing in the Pathfinder Society Field Guide, save the specification that hobgoblins often take the archtype, would you please look at the Monster Codex Grenadier again for inclusion in additional resources, or advise why it is illegal when it is mechanically the same archtype?
-TimD
The question I have is Grenadier. It is legal in the Field guide, but not listed as authorized in the monster codex although everything about it is the same minus the initial title that states "The following archetype is common among hobgoblin alchemists, who wish to maximize their destruction."... or, as an alternate phrasing to the Powers-That-Be: as the text of the alchemist grenadier archtype in the Monster Codex appears to be exactly the same text as that appearing in the Pathfinder Society Field Guide, save the specification that hobgoblins often take the archtype, would you please look at the Monster Codex Grenadier again for inclusion in additional resources, or advise why it is illegal when it is mechanically the same archtype?
-TimD
This ^ and if there is other portions that pop up that are similar (like other items or archtypes etc.) circumstances. Mainly to avoid purchasing a whole different book for that one thing if the player already has a resource available but was overlooked for whatever reason. Its understandable those that put the additional resources together might miss some specifics like this from multiple sources.
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Yes. I found that. But still it begs the question of exactly when it happened and why there wasn't an official post about it and what to do with existing companions that are now illegal (which is more than just the Spinosaurus)
The existing companions are illegal, so you must replace them with a legal option immediately.
As to why there was no post about it, my guess is, someone dropped the ball somewhere in the chain of communication.
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Yes. I found that. But still it begs the question of exactly when it happened and why there wasn't an official post about it and what to do with existing companions that are now illegal (which is more than just the Spinosaurus)The existing companions are illegal, so you must replace them with a legal option immediately.
I just RPed it as the Society complaining that my Spinosaurus was eating more Aspis than they could interrogate, so they asked that I leave it at home.
Besides, a more accurate, recent construction of Spinosaurus replaces the "Jurassic Park" image we all have in mind, and I just couldn't continue to bring along what is now essentially a crocodile with a fin on its back.
I wondered if there will be any items legal from Champions of corruption?
I know most from the stuff there propably won't be allowed from PFS, but there were some items which might be ok.
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I wondered if there will be any items legal from Champions of corruption?
I know most from the stuff there propably won't be allowed from PFS, but there were some items which might be ok.
They've already made it clear that nothing from Champions of Corruption is going to make it onto the AR. I would've liked to see it made a legal source for deities, since there aren't very many sources that have Tien deities in them.
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They've already made it clear that nothing from Champions of Corruption is going to make it onto the AR. I would've liked to see it made a legal source for deities, since there aren't very many sources that have Tien deities in them.I wondered if there will be any items legal from Champions of corruption?
I know most from the stuff there propably won't be allowed from PFS, but there were some items which might be ok.
Unfortunately, it only lists the Tien deities with Evil alignments. Both the Dragon Empires Gazeteer and Primer have the complete lists.
Hmm ok. I though at least this ring which protects from negative Energy might become legal. Maybe it actually can, but on a chronicle sheet.
Anyways thanks for that clarification.
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The Spinosaurus hasn't been legal for at least 2 years. Here's the post from earlier in this thread where this is discussed.
Not quite true i have a May 2014 Additional resources where Spinosaurus was on the legal animal companions for beastiary 3.
I think from time to time it popped on the list qnd then next time disappeared again. And if you happened to look on that May 2014 list and saw it was legal you probably didn't think to keep checking every month.
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Unfortunately, it only lists the Tien deities with Evil alignments. Both the Dragon Empires Gazeteer and Primer have the complete lists.They've already made it clear that nothing from Champions of Corruption is going to make it onto the AR. I would've liked to see it made a legal source for deities, since there aren't very many sources that have Tien deities in them.I wondered if there will be any items legal from Champions of corruption?
I know most from the stuff there propably won't be allowed from PFS, but there were some items which might be ok.
I have the Dragon Empires Primer, but it only has basic descriptions on each of the deities in Tian Xia, it lacks the domains/subdomains/favored weapons of them. Only the Gazetteer has the full portfolio for each Tien deity. Each of the "Champions" series of books has the portfolio for them as well, so one can also piece them together from those. The Tien deities with evil alignments are legal for neutral worshippers, so that shouldn't be a stopping block, and coud be flavorful.
My sneaky ratfolk rogue would have liked to be a worshipper of Lao Shu Po, but went a different direction because I didn't feel like shelling out for a PDF so I could worship one deity.
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Undead Mitch,
I made the reference to the Dragon Empires books to mention they had a complete reference for the Tien deities. I don't blame you for not wanting to shell out for a PDF for only one item. According to the Additional Resources, Lao Shu Po is a legal option and, after looking at the other Champion books, I do agree that Champions of Corruption should allow the deity information in PFS. Thank you for pointing out that the other Champions books had the rest of the Tien deities.
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The Spinosaurus hasn't been legal for at least 2 years. Here's the post from earlier in this thread where this is discussed.
Not quite true i have a May 2014 Additional resources where Spinosaurus was on the legal animal companions for beastiary 3.
I think from time to time it popped on the list qnd then next time disappeared again. And if you happened to look on that May 2014 list and saw it was legal you probably didn't think to keep checking every month.
I apologize. It seems the confusion went on longer than I thought.
Didn't that earlier discussion result in them using a strikethrough now when text is removed? Or at least adding language when something is removed, like "Pummeling Charge has been removed from the banned list and is now available for play." It's little consolation to the dinosaur owners, but it's progress towards avoiding this kind of issue in the future.
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It might help if they figured out a way to list both the affirmatively allowed options from each book as well as the specifically denied. It would take a new format and would be a lot longer but it would be easier to then show changes.
I once thought of this, and started to make it. Then I realized what a ridiculously-huge task it was, and stopped. I think the existing system generally works. Things like the spinosaurus don't happen often - Mike has said they will add future deletions in the red "changed" text in future updates.
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Rycault - because this is a critical rules document, I doubt Paizo will ever crowdsource it. Paizo staff would have to go through the entire thing to check it anyway, and it really is a HUGE amount of work.
I agree, there could be some more consistency in the way things are worded from update to update, and it seems that they are working towards that.