Nefreet |
Imbicatus |
Malokay wrote:Thanks, I guess here is hoping I run into a chainsaw boom, with the right characterYou don't need a boon for it.
You don't need a boon for a gnomish toy, but you do need one for a chainsaw.
Ed Reppert |
I doubt it personally, maybe some of the subdomains. Possibly some of the traits. I would be shocked if the piercings were allowed.
Piercings will be allowed - but only if the player has the same piercings. :-)
Chris Lambertz Paizo Glitterati Robot |
The Additional Resources page has been updated with late September products.
Just a suggestion, but maybe you guys could have links to the products for purchase on the additional resources page?
So when I look at it I can click the Seeker of secrets it would take me to the page where I can order the product.
It's possible we can do something like that. It's a bit of a time investment, but I'll see what we can do.
Dylos |
The Additional Resources page has been updated with late September products.
So nothing from Undead Unleashed (I'm not even sure if there are any player options in this one) or Champions of Corruption (which is only evil character options) is PFS legal then. It would seem the update to include the late September products is simply to correct issues rather then add the late September products.
Also of note, Dragon Empires Primer still says that you need a chronicle to play Kitsune/Wayang/Nagaji (At least the Advanced Rage Guide says they are legal without it).
Advanced Class Guide should say Rage Powers rather then Rages.
John Compton Developer |
Chris Lambertz wrote:The Additional Resources page has been updated with late September products.So nothing from Undead Unleashed (I'm not even sure if there are any player options in this one) or Champions of Corruption (which is only evil character options) is PFS legal then. It would seem the update to include the late September products is simply to correct issues rather then add the late September products.
More that those books are still being reviewed and discussed to decide what is legal.
Hmm Venture-Captain, Minnesota |
TimD |
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Additional Resources still doesn't indicate that Tieflings & Aasimars built before the cut-off don't require a chronicle sheet. As the campaign progresses and new GMs come on board, this could become more of an issue.
In addition, the entry for Dragon Empires Primer still says "To create a kitsune, nagaji, or wayang character, you must have a Chronicle sheet that opens the race as a legal option at character creation."
-TimD
DM Beckett |
Please let the Damnation feats be legal!
Don't have the book, so I have not read it, but if they are in any way going to be another Paladin/Cleric of vs issue, I'm hoping they are banned outright just to avoid any more BS on that front.
If that's not an issue, I don't know. I'm just not sure, or not seeing an upside to having yet another in world reason for everyone to hate Pathfinders and the Society for so many right reasons, and I'm not really sure it would work at all after the Season 4 and 5 overarching plot, but like I said, don't have the book.
After the Tech Guide, do we really need another scandalous/massively contentious option?
kinevon |
I think someone messed up the red font on the Additional Resources Page. Everything is red from Dragon Empires Primer down. That or there's very subtle updates in half the page I just haven't noticed yet.
I think it is only affecting users of IE. You might want to go to the Web Site Feedback Forum to post about that.
Protoman |
Protoman wrote:I think someone messed up the red font on the Additional Resources Page. Everything is red from Dragon Empires Primer down. That or there's very subtle updates in half the page I just haven't noticed yet.I think it is only affecting users of IE. You might want to go to the Web Site Feedback Forum to post about that.
Ah you're right, thanks.
David knott 242 |
Dylos wrote:(At least the Advanced Rage Guide says they are legal without it).I realize this is a typo, but I would very much like a product of this name.
:)
-j
Okay, the next person to write an optimization guide for barbarians really needs to give this title to that guide.
Jayder22 |
just wanted to say, thanks for adding evolved summon monster to the banned list, that was a munchkins dream feat.
I agree with the ban on it as well, but for a different reason. I've been using the feat on my conjuration wizard. It didn't seem to be a vastly overpowered feat, (maybe I was using it poorly) I usually used it to give 1 extra attack to an animal at full BaB (Tail) or 2 hoof attacks at -5 BaB. This is admittedly strong, but not broken.
The problem to me was, it made something that was already a very strong choice, summoning, even better. Summoning doesn't need more tools or tricks to make it the smart choice, and this feat seemed to push it farther to always being the best choice.
Sylthvrena |
the issue is you could get it more than once. A celestial air element with reach and DR is kinda nasty.
BTW looking through what is and is not allowed. For the dragon primer the void element school is listed, but that would mean it was legal and all the others are not. Pretty sure that was not the intent since void is pretty clearly the best of the elemental schools. Is that an error?
Hulking Hurler |
Hulking Hurler wrote:I have my fingers crossed for Stunning Irruption to be legal. It would be prefect for my overrun specialist, Kuhlade.Unfortunately, it says all characters within 20' of your entrance. Technically that includes you and your allies as well. Oops, yet another RAW mistake.
It's nice to play a character so destructive he even scares himself, plus I've got a good fort save. After the first combat most folks stay out of the way, even without this feat.
Ascalaphus Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden |
BTW looking through what is and is not allowed. For the dragon primer the void element school is listed, but that would mean it was legal and all the others are not. Pretty sure that was not the intent since void is pretty clearly the best of the elemental schools. Is that an error?
You can get the other elements from the Advanced Players Guide (classic 4) and Ultimate Magic (metal and wood).
Sylthvrena |
Sylthvrena wrote:the issue is you could get it more than once. A celestial air element with reach and DR is kinda nasty.There's a 1pt Evolution that grants the Celestial template? [/QUOTE
well if you are doing summon monster typically you can add a template, the reach was from one evolution point.
3 points lets you add celecial appearanceIf you take it twice, you can start giving them things like immunity a needed energy type. then DR, give them the large template, pounce..etc.. it gets scary fast.
Giving a large earth elemental grab comes to mind as a nice one. Shadow form as needed for the friend specter or ghost. Its like being able to cast evolution surge for free on every summon.
Arshea |
While I understand what it intends, the wording update for Chronicles of the Righteous indicates that the Empyreal Lords are now available as PCs.
Additional Resources wrote:Misc.: all empyreal lords on the inside front cover and pages 6-29 are legal for playgiggle
You mean they aren't?
Undone |
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Hmmm, Pummeling Style just got clarified to only work with Unarmed Strikes. I wonder if Pummeling Charge might get unbanned in PFS now?
It would be incredibly depressing if it wasn't unbanned. There's no valid justification for banning pummeling charge while beast totem remains legal.
Jeff Merola |
Matrix Dragon wrote:Hmmm, Pummeling Style just got clarified to only work with Unarmed Strikes. I wonder if Pummeling Charge might get unbanned in PFS now?It would be incredibly depressing if it wasn't unbanned. There's no valid justification for banning pummeling charge while beast totem remains legal.
While I do agree that Pummeling Charge should be legal, it can come online earlier than Greater Beast Totem does, thanks to Master of Many Styles.
Undone |
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Undone wrote:While I do agree that Pummeling Charge should be legal, it can come online earlier than Greater Beast Totem does, thanks to Master of Many Styles.Matrix Dragon wrote:Hmmm, Pummeling Style just got clarified to only work with Unarmed Strikes. I wonder if Pummeling Charge might get unbanned in PFS now?It would be incredibly depressing if it wasn't unbanned. There's no valid justification for banning pummeling charge while beast totem remains legal.
That sounds like grounds for banning master of many styles and leaving pummeling charge alone.
Are we going to have another crane style fiasco here?
What about snake fang and fortuitous weapons? We're going to have like 10-15 style feats changed/errated because of MoMS which is a good indication that Pummeling charge which is significantly worse than greater beast totem since you can't pummeling with a lance, nodachi, or falcata (after errata) there's no valid justification for it being banned.
The above justification "It can be cheated early" Is a good justification to ban what cheats it. Not what is being cheated. After all I highly doubt that in practical PFS games spell perfection is a problem. I think if you could get it at level 2 it would be slightly more of a problem. Just saying.
Silbeg |
Jeff Merola wrote:Undone wrote:While I do agree that Pummeling Charge should be legal, it can come online earlier than Greater Beast Totem does, thanks to Master of Many Styles.Matrix Dragon wrote:Hmmm, Pummeling Style just got clarified to only work with Unarmed Strikes. I wonder if Pummeling Charge might get unbanned in PFS now?It would be incredibly depressing if it wasn't unbanned. There's no valid justification for banning pummeling charge while beast totem remains legal.That sounds like grounds for banning master of many styles and leaving pummeling charge alone.
Are we going to have another crane style fiasco here?
What about snake fang and fortuitous weapons? We're going to have like 10-15 style feats changed/errated because of MoMS which is a good indication that Pummeling charge which is significantly worse than greater beast totem since you can't pummeling with a lance, nodachi, or falcata (after errata) there's no valid justification for it being banned.
The above justification "It can be cheated early" Is a good justification to ban what cheats it. Not what is being cheated. After all I highly doubt that in practical PFS games spell perfection is a problem. I think if you could get it at level 2 it would be slightly more of a problem. Just saying.
Agreed. +1!
Undone |
Well said Undone.
I also believe that early access is the main culprit of problems with style feats and balance, not these particular abilities themselves. Crane Wing included.
Banning monk of many styles is not something I think needs to be done but unlike this banning I'd understand it.
Just want to point out Sacred fist/brawler + MoMS get's pounce at level 2.
The summoner's mount get's pounce at level 1.
Druid's get it at 6.
Barbarians get it at 10.
Can anyone actually justify pummeling charge being banned while a 1 point evolution gives pounce?
Anyone?
I'll wait.
That said if something was to be banned here. Monk of many styles actually makes a lot of sense. Cheating prerequisites should be literally assumed when creating the feats (Think stunning fist) or should never happen at all.