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I am confident in saying that no one "knows" the game in the same way it was possible to know 3.5 - I don't even mean all the exploits (I expect the greatest of things is generally well known): I just mean that I don't think people can ever learn everything in this system.
You've clearly never met my brother.
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Any fans of Discworld about?YES!
While I've never asked others here, probably more than 50% percent of us.
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Grr... why do APs always do this to me?
An evil couple (TM) invites the party to sit down to have some wine. The AP says, "The sorcerer attempts to surreptitiously cast Suggestion to magically encourage the PC that seems to be the “leader” to sit down and have a drink..."
So, casting a spell is a standard action that provokes an AoO and has a Perception DC of -10 ("the caster must speak in a strong voice"). There's an entire thread dedicated to the 11 or so feats and skills you need to be able to cast "surreptitiously", and you can't do it until you're around 13th level. Unless you're a bard who happens to be performing at the moment, which she isn't.
So what the heck, authors? Do you actually understand the rule system you're using?
DC 0 (conversation). –10 is hearing battle, which is far from "strong voice" casting requirement. Add +1 per 10 feet of distance, +5 for being distracted if wife is speaking to them. Depending upon positioning things it could be another +2 to +5 for unfavorable conditions.
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Any fans of Discworld about?YES!While I've never asked others here, probably more than 50% percent of us.
Edit: And yes, that would include me.
If complete and utter chaos was lightning, then he'd be the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armour and shouting 'All gods are b@$%^&*$'.
Edit: I might be a fan. >.>
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DC 0 (conversation). –10 is hearing battle, which is far from "strong voice" casting requirement. Add +1 per 10 feet of distance, +5 for being distracted if wife is speaking to them. Depending upon positioning things it could be another +2 to +5 for unfavorable conditions.Grr... why do APs always do this to me?
An evil couple (TM) invites the party to sit down to have some wine. The AP says, "The sorcerer attempts to surreptitiously cast Suggestion to magically encourage the PC that seems to be the “leader” to sit down and have a drink..."
So, casting a spell is a standard action that provokes an AoO and has a Perception DC of -10 ("the caster must speak in a strong voice"). There's an entire thread dedicated to the 11 or so feats and skills you need to be able to cast "surreptitiously", and you can't do it until you're around 13th level. Unless you're a bard who happens to be performing at the moment, which she isn't.
So what the heck, authors? Do you actually understand the rule system you're using?
They're all sitting around a dinner table together. If your dinner partner suddenly started saying strange things in a strong voice, I think you'd notice.
And yeah, I'm bothered that -10 is battle, and 0 is overhearing someone else's conversation, so you have to work out where yelling, loud voice, and normal voice fit in.
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Man At Arms - RWBY - Weiss Schnee’s Myrtenaster
That fact that is actually shoots is pretty awesome
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DC 0 (conversation). –10 is hearing battle, which is far from "strong voice" casting requirement. Add +1 per 10 feet of distance, +5 for being distracted if wife is speaking to them. Depending upon positioning things it could be another +2 to +5 for unfavorable conditions.Grr... why do APs always do this to me?
An evil couple (TM) invites the party to sit down to have some wine. The AP says, "The sorcerer attempts to surreptitiously cast Suggestion to magically encourage the PC that seems to be the “leader” to sit down and have a drink..."
So, casting a spell is a standard action that provokes an AoO and has a Perception DC of -10 ("the caster must speak in a strong voice"). There's an entire thread dedicated to the 11 or so feats and skills you need to be able to cast "surreptitiously", and you can't do it until you're around 13th level. Unless you're a bard who happens to be performing at the moment, which she isn't.
So what the heck, authors? Do you actually understand the rule system you're using?
They're all sitting around a dinner table together. If your dinner partner suddenly started saying strange things in a strong voice, I think you'd notice.
And yeah, I'm bothered that -10 is battle, and 0 is overhearing someone else's conversation, so you have to work out where yelling, loud voice, and normal voice fit in.
I dunno... for those of us with kids, what percentage of loud/weird/obnoxious have we learned to automatically tune out for self-preservation purposes?
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I mean math is the only subject that counts.
Besides without geometry life is pointless.
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I will admit advanced geometry is boring. After all its full of squares.
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Let's just hope no-one was offended by any of those.
Just go to hope nobody gets all out of shape about it.
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How about "I !want to kiss my significant other 6 times."?
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Why not I want to kiss 6 significant others my! times.
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Maths is a misunderstood subject. The scope is far larger than people think. To be sure, someone can live a life without it. Or rather, COULD. The days of working a factory job for your entire career are over. The world keeps changing, and it goes faster and faster. We will all be put in the situation of making various choices that will impact our lives seriously. And what tools do we have to make them?
One of the most useful ones is mathematics. See, as soon as someone wants to sell us something, they give us data that we need maths to interpret. Without at least a pretty firm grasp of percentages, averages and probabilities, we are unable to make sense of that data, nor can we dig up our own. It makes you voting chattel, and generally powerless.
If you intend to sell something or produce something, you need to know more, including calculus. What price should you set? How many of product A should you make? Dealing with multiple sellers and transportation, what is the lowest price you could pay for X units? Sure, you could guess, but it's going to cost you.
If you want to design something that is not only decorative (and often even then), you will need far more. The classic example is how high a tin should be given a certain diameter. That is the simplest possible issue here. Depending on the field, it could be any area of maths.
If you want to lead others, balance a budget bigger than a household one, invest resources and the like, you are going to have to know maths, or risk doing a bad job, with all that that entails.
In other words, you don't HAVE to learn maths. It's just that you limit yourself to a subset of careers, you won't be able to effectively lead others, and you won't know whether offers you get are good for you.
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Maths is a misunderstood subject. The scope is far larger than people think. To be sure, someone can live a life without it. Or rather, COULD. The days of working a factory job for your entire career are over. The world keeps changing, and it goes faster and faster. We will all be put in the situation of making various choices that will impact our lives seriously. And what tools do we have to make them?
One of the most useful ones is mathematics. See, as soon as someone wants to sell us something, they give us data that we need maths to interpret. Without at least a pretty firm grasp of percentages, averages and probabilities, we are unable to make sense of that data, nor can we dig up our own. It makes you voting chattel, and generally powerless.
If you intend to sell something or produce something, you need to know more, including calculus. What price should you set? How many of product A should you make? Dealing with multiple sellers and transportation, what is the lowest price you could pay for X units? Sure, you could guess, but it's going to cost you.
If you want to design something that is not only decorative (and often even then), you will need far more. The classic example is how high a tin should be given a certain diameter. That is the simplest possible issue here. Depending on the field, it could be any area of maths.
If you want to lead others, balance a budget bigger than a household one, invest resources and the like, you are going to have to know maths, or risk doing a bad job, with all that that entails.
In other words, you don't HAVE to learn maths. It's just that you limit yourself to a subset of careers, you won't be able to effectively lead others, and you won't know whether offers you get are good for you.
Nice that was quite the well spoken Tan-gent.
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AK far to tan. You would think he would know their is a time for killing and a time to stop tanning. That should be a crime and deserves some punishment. In the case of that spray tan once was enough.
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Any fans of Discworld about?YES!While I've never asked others here, probably more than 50% percent of us.
Edit: And yes, that would include me.
I've never heard of it.
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I've never heard of it.Any fans of Discworld about?YES!While I've never asked others here, probably more than 50% percent of us.
Edit: And yes, that would include me.
Its the book series Terry Pratchett is most known for. Terry also co-wrote good omens with Neil Gaiman.
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Its a fabulous collection of fantasy novels by Terry Pratchett, they make light of and subvert some classic tropes and are all very tongue and cheek.
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Easily one of my favorite authors.
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Is he like Jim Butcher, cause everyone told me I'd love his novels, I did not.
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No I've read the Dresden files, they're ... I can see the appeal. They're fine.
The Discworld books are completely different and better in my opinion.
EDIT: to elaborate one "better" which is, I realize, unhelpful. The Discworld books manage to inhabit the frankly more strung out and overused period type fantasy world; however thanks to the fact they're wonderfully self aware they're able to feel creative and outside the box. Poking fun at old tropes and braking classic genre rules in what I would describe as a very liberating expeirence for the reader.
They feel fresh and funny, the jokes at the expense of the genre feel as though you're laughing at the funny foibles and idiosyncrasies of an old friend or family member. You love it and recognize it and so does Pratchett and so he has fun with it.
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I have never read anything by Jim Butcher
His books are like
'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.
Kind of dry British humor. Their High fantasy. Discworld exists on the back of a 4 elephants which are in turn on the back of a giant turtle flying through space.
If none of this interest you I say pass on it.
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Jim butcher is okay. His stuff gets a bit preachy, predictable, and sex negative after a while.
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Hmm you guys are dissuading me Dresden files was gonna be my next book series.
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I really like his goblin series, or at least books 1 and 3. 2 was alright. Other than that I haven't read anything of his.
I also really enjoy the monster hunter international series, by Larry Correia. But that is a more traditional story set in the modern world.
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Hmm you guys are dissuading me Dresden files was gonna be my next book series.
I say go for it on the Dresden Files. I own all of them and can't wait for the next ones.
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I think my next character is going to be a barbarian called Brutaax the Degutserator.
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Butbut that's wrong! There is no such word as "degutserator". You would be the Disemboweler!
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Rules be damned, I do what the AP says.
Or course, then it's on me to try to work it into the conversation. :-)
My entire campaign would devolve into:
"We walk into the bar."
"I surreptitiously cast Suggestion on the guy at the end of the bar."
"I move my way down the line."
"HEY, EVERYBODY! Drinks are on THIS GUY!"
I should probably mention due to my party having no interest in what the actual rules are, just do what I say.
In fairness to me, I try every game to get someone else to learn the rules.
I also find that while a circle of glowing runes is a great way to illustrate magic being cast, I find it silly 8n practice. If you can't work "eyes of newt, I cast a pox on thee" into normal dinner conversation then you shouldn't be playing a spell caster.
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I second the recommendation of the Jim Butcher books.
The Codex Alera was a fun, if predictable, series of six books. High fantasy style, interesting magic system, fun Byzantine politics (not too dissimilar from the political maneuverings in the Spartacus series from Starz a few years back).
We've only seen one book from The Cinder Spires released so far: The Aeronaut's Windlass. It was a good read. The characters were all instantly recognizable, but had enough depth for it to be enjoyable rather than off-putting.
The Dresden Files has been very rewarding. I'll grant that you have to get past the first three books for it to get to that point, honestly, but if you make it to Dead Beat, Proven Guilty, and White Night, everything after that is exceptional.
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"His pen and paper... turned into a slice of cheesecake."
XD
Is...is that Professor Elmer Fudd?
I often wondered what he was doing, when he wasn't hunting wascally wabbits...
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My kids are both completely off the rails. It's only been three days and their dad doesn't get home until late Thursday night, and all they are doing at home is crying and fighting with each other. I'm about to lose it. At least dinner for tonight is already made so I just have to heat it up and try to get them into bed early.
I hope they adjust and learn to cope soon, because five days of this every month through next August are *not* going to be fun.
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I'm so sorry!
Here's hoping it gets better, soon!
"His pen and paper... turned into a slice of cheesecake."
XD
Is...is that Professor Elmer Fudd?
I often wondered what he was doing, when he wasn't hunting wascally wabbits...
IsaacX Arthur is so daggum good.