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*Gets dressed* Very poetic. Me in about 20 years, hopefully.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Chromantic Durgon <3 wrote:
I sense maths happening. I feel fear.
I do not feel fear. Only hate.
And waffles!

Stop feeling the waffles and just eat them.


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John Napier 698 wrote:
I'd like to point out that even though most programming is heavily math-based, it won't be visible in the finished products. Consider Skyrim. There's a lot of math in the simplest ray tracing algorithms that determine what landscape features are visible to the player.

Isn't that common knowledge?

Oh, wait, I had my programming-obsessed brother boring me with ray-tracing details more than once.

What's worse, I, having some very old experience in programming (I hadn't written a piece of code, html and bat scripts not counting, in ages, for ages = approximately 20 years) though much less in math understood parts of it.


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Never assume anything is common knowledge. some people believe the world is flat...


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It is perhaps ironic that neither common knowledge nor common sense are all that common.


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Did you hear about the drug addicted fisherman who accidentally caught a duck? Now he's hooked on quack.


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Sleep is my drug, my bed is my dealer, and the alarm clock is the police.


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I can't afford aromatherapy, so I just sniff stuff at random and hope for the best.


Marijuana is a gateway to taking 45 minutes to picking out which color of Gatorade you want.


I said "no" to drugs, but they just wouldn't listen.


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My puns are so cheesy that they go well with crackers.


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Ah good a fresh supply.


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Back in my day the world was flat! Everybody said so.

You younguns with your round world make no sense. Everything would roll off.


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^^^ *Holds up picture of a cracked pot*


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You know the one good thing about the paladin falls threads? The fact that someone always makes at least one trip and fall down joke.


Dang it!

Little spiders hatched some time recently in or near my bathroom (I'm guessing "near" as I can't find anything to indicate where, exactly "in") and I've been killing dozens of the little things ever since.

Now I found one outside my bedroom door.

>:I

I don't want to kill you, spiders, but please just go outside.


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well You only have 1 option. nuke it from space. its the only way to be sure.


Nooooooo... poor little spiders jus' wanna live.

But they can't. They can't unless they go outside.

>:I


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Eh, if we kill all our spiders then we get attacked by ants.


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I suppose you could get industrial sized fans and a lot of plastic sheeting wrap your house in the sheeting and then let the fans create a sort of contained hurricane to blow them all outside.

Edit: Note: make sure all your kids and pets are out of the house before you do this.


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Of course, that's the nice thing about having winter.

The amount of animals that kill with toxins is thankfully small.


captain yesterday wrote:
Eh, if we kill all our spiders then we get attacked by ants.

We get attacked by ants, anyway.

Though at least they (tend to be) polite enough to stay outside.

>:/

But, no, really, we don't have all that many bug problems.

I mean, we always have one: it's just that it rotates around which one.

And we keep explaining politely that, they are welcome to live, if they just follow the daggum rules. And then they don't. And I kill them.


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FROM SPACE!!!!


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I just thought of a great new thread title

What do you do when paladins fall...in love!


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Let the flame war ignite.


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Paladins are obviously Deisexual.

How else can someone be that into Iomedae.

Merisiel teasingly touches Seelah's arm "C'mon baby, you know you want to" Seelah raises one eyebrow as she withdraws her arm "only when Iomedae is watching, that's our deal".


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Crookshanks wrote:
Chromantic Durgon <3 wrote:
I sense maths happening. I feel fear.
Me too i have to do this expression mat stuff in math and its so frustrating grrr

okay, here is an easy math expression.

First, get your math homework together. Don't do it. Just bring it all to class.

Inform math teacher you have a special experiment and guest involving math homework.

Call your physics teacher into the room, have your chemistry teacher on backup just in case.

Work with physics teacher to create a safe environment(safety goggles, sand pit nearby, fire extinguisher) for burning math homework.

Burn math homework.

Hold up hand as math teacher begins to panic, ask physics and chemistry teacher if necessary, to express what you just did as mathematic formulae.

Explain to math teacher that we do math every day and this is but one example.

Extinguish flames safely(safety first!)

Enjoy applause from fellow students.

Wait for A from teacher.


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Vidmaster7 wrote:

I just thought of a great new thread title

What do you do when paladins fall...in love!

What do you do when paladins fall in love with adamantine grapplin' succubi?

You realise you've been filming Limey's Sexey Dreamz again, that's what.


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Crookshanks wrote:

We get to cut open cow and sheep brains

Yeah

see now THAT'S educational!

Pythagoras can suck it!


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lisamarlene wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

The audit/site visit that I was planning for since last month, that I sacrificed weekends and sleep for and prepared for for so long....

Has been postponed until next week.

Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

::leaves kids with Nobody's Impii::

::hops on JetBlue::
::takes taxi to Brooklyn::
::arranges for small, exceedingly localized snowstorm::
::leaves plate of scones next to window looking out over the snow with a little cartoon drawing of a buxom goatherdess in a snowflake-bedecked corset::
::flies home, picks up kids::

stands out in snow, eating scones, stares up at risque cartoon taped to window

Spoiler:
I'm actually a few exits away from JFK. Literally leads right to my house. Star wars con held at casino an exit away from JFK was less than 15 minutes for me to get to

Spoiler:
also, thunderstruck by acdc was on the radio when I read this. I mentally changed it to thundersnow. It was awesome.


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NobodysHome wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:

Which is why I oppose "force-feeding" students Math. Not everyone has the same aptitude for everything. I failed Biology in High School simply because cutting open dead frogs with a dull scalpel wasn't all that exciting. Once a subject becomes too difficult for any given student, the teachers should stop.

I'd like to point out that even though most programming is heavily math-based, it won't be visible in the finished products. Consider Skyrim. There's a lot of math in the simplest ray tracing algorithms that determine what landscape features are visible to the player. But none of that math is ever printed on the screen. Having half a dozen books on game programming, I can state that as a fact.

I'm going to politely disagree. I'd always start off on my first day explaining to my students that, while they were exceedingly unlikely to use anything I was going to show them that semester in their careers, research has shown that studying math trains the brain in logical thinking, and is vital to an educated society. (OK, the second clause was my addition.)

Math hurts because it shapes your brain.

EDIT: But yeah, as I've written before, when my students would say, "I can't do math" I would respond, "No, you just had a bad math teacher", and they'd always come up with a name.

poppycock.

You know what shapes your brain? Reading.

You know what deformes your brain? Useless information that has no bearing on your life that is was forced into a curriculum to beat those evil Russians way back in 1959. Math doesn't train the brain in logical thinking. It trains you to sit down, shut up, and do what you are told because that's the only way the person torturing you will stop. No, don't learn how to do it another way, do it their way or you will be marked wrong. Who cares if the book doesn't say anything even remotely close to what you are being trained to do. Be a useful, productive citizen! Math! Never question!

Unless you are on math team, then you can do whatever you want.


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Vidmaster7 wrote:
Never assume anything is common knowledge. some people believe the world is flat...

common sense in one part of the world is specialized knowledge in another.


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And this is why I try to not antagonize Freehold. Freehold, thank you for the gifts, yesterday.


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I think the boards ate my

"Happy Birthday, John!"

post from yesterday.

So you can have it now (again). :)


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John Napier 698 wrote:
And this is why I try to not antagonize Freehold. Freehold, thank you for the gifts, yesterday.

antagonize? Me? Nonsense! I'm just dropping some truth bombs on the math folk.

No problem, enjoy your book.

Reading.

Demand it.


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Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:

Which is why I oppose "force-feeding" students Math. Not everyone has the same aptitude for everything. I failed Biology in High School simply because cutting open dead frogs with a dull scalpel wasn't all that exciting. Once a subject becomes too difficult for any given student, the teachers should stop.

I'd like to point out that even though most programming is heavily math-based, it won't be visible in the finished products. Consider Skyrim. There's a lot of math in the simplest ray tracing algorithms that determine what landscape features are visible to the player. But none of that math is ever printed on the screen. Having half a dozen books on game programming, I can state that as a fact.

I'm going to politely disagree. I'd always start off on my first day explaining to my students that, while they were exceedingly unlikely to use anything I was going to show them that semester in their careers, research has shown that studying math trains the brain in logical thinking, and is vital to an educated society. (OK, the second clause was my addition.)

Math hurts because it shapes your brain.

EDIT: But yeah, as I've written before, when my students would say, "I can't do math" I would respond, "No, you just had a bad math teacher", and they'd always come up with a name.

poppycock.

You know what shapes your brain? Reading.

You know what deformes your brain? Useless information that has no bearing on your life that is was forced into a curriculum to beat those evil Russians way back in 1959. Math doesn't train the brain in logical thinking. It trains you to sit down, shut up, and do what you are told because that's the only way the person torturing you will stop. No, don't learn how to do it another way, do it their way or you will be marked wrong. Who cares if the book doesn't say anything even remotely close to what you are being trained to do. Be a useful, productive citizen! Math! Never question!

Meanwhile...
I'm actually a few exits away from JFK. Literally leads right to my house. Star wars con held at casino an exit away from JFK was less than 15 minutes for me to get to

So...

If Freehold leaves his house to walk to the con averaging 5kph (stoplights, crossings, etc., not saying you're slow) and at the same moment Joss Whedon speeds by in an Uber to go to the same con and the Uber is averaging 35kph and Freehold doubles his pace to hurl flaming bikes and vituperatives at Whedon but then has to stop and catch his breath for 38 seconds, but Whedon's Uber stops and double-parks at the corner bodega three blocks away for two minutes seven seconds so he can pick up a pack of smokes, allowing Freehold time to catch up and the cycle to repeat, how many magical plus signs can I get before Freehold scratches me off his list of ladies to flirt with when they are feeling bad?


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Tacticslion wrote:

Dang it!

Little spiders hatched some time recently in or near my bathroom (I'm guessing "near" as I can't find anything to indicate where, exactly "in") and I've been killing dozens of the little things ever since.

Now I found one outside my bedroom door.

>:I

I don't want to kill you, spiders, but please just go outside.

but spiders eat other insects...


Vidmaster7 wrote:

I just thought of a great new thread title

What do you do when paladins fall...in love!

Limey's Sexey Dreamz wrote:

What do you do when paladins fall in love with adamantine grapplin' succubi?

You realise you've been filming Limey's Sexey Dreamz again, that's what.

Looks sternly at Limey.

You know the rules.


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Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:

Which is why I oppose "force-feeding" students Math. Not everyone has the same aptitude for everything. I failed Biology in High School simply because cutting open dead frogs with a dull scalpel wasn't all that exciting. Once a subject becomes too difficult for any given student, the teachers should stop.

I'd like to point out that even though most programming is heavily math-based, it won't be visible in the finished products. Consider Skyrim. There's a lot of math in the simplest ray tracing algorithms that determine what landscape features are visible to the player. But none of that math is ever printed on the screen. Having half a dozen books on game programming, I can state that as a fact.

I'm going to politely disagree. I'd always start off on my first day explaining to my students that, while they were exceedingly unlikely to use anything I was going to show them that semester in their careers, research has shown that studying math trains the brain in logical thinking, and is vital to an educated society. (OK, the second clause was my addition.)

Math hurts because it shapes your brain.

EDIT: But yeah, as I've written before, when my students would say, "I can't do math" I would respond, "No, you just had a bad math teacher", and they'd always come up with a name.

poppycock.

You know what shapes your brain? Reading.

You know what deformes your brain? Useless information that has no bearing on your life that is was forced into a curriculum to beat those evil Russians way back in 1959. Math doesn't train the brain in logical thinking. It trains you to sit down, shut up, and do what you are told because that's the only way the person torturing you will stop. No, don't learn how to do it another way, do it their way or you will be marked wrong. Who cares if the book doesn't say anything even remotely close to what you are being trained to do. Be a useful, productive citizen! Math! Never question!

Unless you...

You know, FHDM is a the case study of bad math teachers' victimology...


Freehold DM wrote:
Crookshanks wrote:
Chromantic Durgon <3 wrote:
I sense maths happening. I feel fear.
Me too i have to do this expression mat stuff in math and its so frustrating grrr

okay, here is an easy math expression.

First, get your math homework together. Don't do it. Just bring it all to class.

Inform math teacher you have a special experiment and guest involving math homework.

Call your physics teacher into the room, have your chemistry teacher on backup just in case.

Work with physics teacher to create a safe environment(safety goggles, sand pit nearby, fire extinguisher) for burning math homework.

Burn math homework.

Hold up hand as math teacher begins to panic, ask physics and chemistry teacher if necessary, to express what you just did as mathematic formulae.

Explain to math teacher that we do math every day and this is but one example.

Extinguish flames safely(safety first!)

Enjoy applause from fellow students.

Wait for A from teacher.

Again: don't listen to Freehold when he's hatin'.


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lisamarlene wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:

Which is why I oppose "force-feeding" students Math. Not everyone has the same aptitude for everything. I failed Biology in High School simply because cutting open dead frogs with a dull scalpel wasn't all that exciting. Once a subject becomes too difficult for any given student, the teachers should stop.

I'd like to point out that even though most programming is heavily math-based, it won't be visible in the finished products. Consider Skyrim. There's a lot of math in the simplest ray tracing algorithms that determine what landscape features are visible to the player. But none of that math is ever printed on the screen. Having half a dozen books on game programming, I can state that as a fact.

I'm going to politely disagree. I'd always start off on my first day explaining to my students that, while they were exceedingly unlikely to use anything I was going to show them that semester in their careers, research has shown that studying math trains the brain in logical thinking, and is vital to an educated society. (OK, the second clause was my addition.)

Math hurts because it shapes your brain.

EDIT: But yeah, as I've written before, when my students would say, "I can't do math" I would respond, "No, you just had a bad math teacher", and they'd always come up with a name.

poppycock.

You know what shapes your brain? Reading.

You know what deformes your brain? Useless information that has no bearing on your life that is was forced into a curriculum to beat those evil Russians way back in 1959. Math doesn't train the brain in logical thinking. It trains you to sit down, shut up, and do what you are told because that's the only way the person torturing you will stop. No, don't learn how to do it another way, do it their way or you will be marked wrong. Who cares if the book doesn't say anything even remotely close to what you are being trained to do. Be a useful, productive citizen! Math!

...

moves lisamarlenes name up a space on the list, as her love of math adds an undeniable spice to flirting, prepares extra chocolate cake for her husband and NobodysHome for some reason


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NobodysHome wrote:

I'm going to politely disagree. I'd always start off on my first day explaining to my students that, while they were exceedingly unlikely to use anything I was going to show them that semester in their careers, research has shown that studying math trains the brain in logical thinking, and is vital to an educated society. (OK, the second clause was my addition.)

Math hurts because it shapes your brain.

EDIT: But yeah, as I've written before, when my students would say, "I can't do math" I would respond, "No, you just had a bad math teacher", and they'd always come up with a name.

Freehold DM wrote:
poppycock.

False.

Freehold DM wrote:
You know what shapes your brain? Reading.

True!

Freehold DM wrote:
You know what deformes your brain?

Define "deform" (as "deformation" is actually a process of all learning, hence "shaping" the brain...)?

Freehold DM wrote:
Useless information that has no bearing on your life that is was forced into a curriculum to beat those evil Russians way back in 1959.

Which information is this? 'Cause math has been taught a long, long time prior to 1959.

Freehold DM wrote:
Math doesn't train the brain in logical thinking. It trains you to sit down, shut up, and do what you are told because that's the only way the person torturing you will stop. No, don't learn how to do it another way, do it their way or you will be marked wrong. Who cares if the book doesn't say anything even remotely close to what you are being trained to do. Be a useful, productive citizen! Math! Never question!

This is false. I say this as a math tutor.

Math is a fundamental set of tools from which you can take principles that apply to every discipline in life.

Also, it's something that, to some extent or another, will be used in literally everything you do, even if it's really simple versions of the stuff.

Freehold DM wrote:
Unless you are on math team, then you can do whatever you want.

This is also false. Don't commit crimes and don't do things that needlessly hurt people.

EDIT: To clarify, I know (and so should you) that FHDM would never - and does not, even in this post - actually condone doing "bad things" - I'm just giving him a hard time with this last one, mostly exclusively because I was kind of on a roll with giving him a hard time on the rest of this post. ;D


Tacticslion wrote:

Dang it!

Little spiders hatched some time recently in or near my bathroom (I'm guessing "near" as I can't find anything to indicate where, exactly "in") and I've been killing dozens of the little things ever since.

Now I found one outside my bedroom door.

>:I

I don't want to kill you, spiders, but please just go outside.

Freehold DM wrote:
but spiders eat other insects...

1) Spiders are arachnids, not insects #sillyserious

2) I know, and none are welcome in the house, because...

3) ... neither insects nor spiders (nor any other living thing that I can determine, save humans specifically invited by me) recognizes the difference between my family and I, and, you know, "food" (or rather, they all inevitably bite somebody, usually while asleep), and...

4) ... often are either poisonous (even if mild to the point of mere discomfort) or potentially disease-carriers.

As an aside, they are warned that, while they are permitted to be on the sidewalk, there are no guarantees of their safety while they persist in such risky activity. Also, they are not permitted on the house, but they will be pursued with less vigor (and subject only minor, periodic purges), so long as they remain outside (and do not actually threaten or harm myself or my loved ones). I mean, I tell them all the daggum time. It's not my fault they don't listen.


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If you keep a small thing of water beside or under your bed (even a thimble full, spiders won't bite you, they're just thirsty.

Shadow Lodge

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Tacticslion wrote:

Looks sternly at Limey.

You know the rules.

And so do I.


:D:D:D:D

Love that song! XD


captain yesterday wrote:
If you keep a small thing of water beside or under your bed (even a thimble full, spiders won't bite you, they're just thirsty.

I am afraid that I have proven this incorrect.

Thanks, though! XD

Grand Lodge

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It was interesting reading his Wiki page after finding that link. And then comparing the cover of his first album to his latest.


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breaks out of dusty shell, built up over months of silence

notices alarming trend on FaWtL

Rage!! Fury!! Frenzy!! Death to math!!! DEATH!!!!

coughs, settles back down for a nap


TriOmegaZero wrote:
It was interesting reading his Wiki page after finding that link. And then comparing the cover of his first album to his latest.

Dang it, man. Now I've gotta.

Rantraptor wrote:

breaks out of dusty shell, built up over months of silence

notices alarming trend on FaWtL

Rage!! Fury!! Frenzy!! Death to math!!! DEATH!!!!

coughs, settles back down for a nap

You... you can't... how did you miss this? This has been a relatively long-standing thing.

Welcome back, though!

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