Starfinder Galactic Magic

There are no touch ACs in Starfinder.

They're not referring to touch ACs as far as I can see. They're likely referring to how it Dex was the key stat for Precog during the playtest.

There is nothing wrong with the magic in starfinder.
It's just not the only way to play and be effective like in every other fantasy rpg ever.
It's for the most part... balanced. Magic doesn't break the game both for and against players. It does however, have a learning curve on how to use spells for maximum effect.
The hardest part of magic in starfinder, is the extremely limited amount of spells a character can have which balances out the fact all of them are spontaneous casters.

There is nothing wrong with the magic in starfinder.

It's just not the only way to play and be effective like in every other fantasy rpg ever.
It's for the most part... balanced. Magic doesn't break the game both for and against players. It does however, have a learning curve on how to use spells for maximum effect.
The hardest part of magic in starfinder, is the extremely limited amount of spells a character can have which balances out the fact all of them are spontaneous casters.

I really agree with this comment. In most rpgs casters over power everything. In starfinder there is a nice balance so even my soldier can feel strong. Personally I used to play casters all of the time when I was a power gamer. Now love my support or no magical roles. Starfinder lets me play those builds without some saying “you could do that easier and better with a spell caster”.

Can we get the expected release updated to reflect this being a december product?

It already is. Late November is when the first shipments for subscribers and pre-orders will be going out. The street date is also listed under product availability.

Huh, okay. I only ever saw the date in the pre-ordery section since that's also where the pdf date shows up just before release good to know.

Sidenote, I've realized I psychologically prefer early month to late month.

I think I witness time kind as if "end of month" took longer than early month :p Though it also helps that lately book content had been early month while scenario content was late month meaning there was something to wait for both at start and at end of month

Aw bummer, street date moved to january. Sort of expected but still a little sad.

Nuuuu! D:

Had a feeling this was going to be a 2022 book, what with the current issues with supply, internal upheaval, and the compounding factor of holiday stressors on already stressed systems. Hopefully 2022 eases up on... well, everyone.

I'm happy that we're finally getting more on the gods of starfinder.

I totally agree. I kind of want two more categories of information.

More Information on how some of the other Golarian gods transitioned to the new setting.

Shelyn showed up at Songbird station (yay!) but sometimes we can be at a loss as to whether there are still worshippers of a Pathfinder god in the Starfinder setting if that god did not make the big 20 list.

More information on some of the Starfinder Big 20 that were newly created for Starfinder.

Straight out the gate, Triune got lots of love, with the Drift being their personal gift to the Universe. We got entire AP backmatter articles on the faiths of Hylax and Sarenae, and everyone knows that Abadar is great for shopping.

But... Where is the love for Oras and Ibra? I know that I wrote up Oracles of Oras and Constellation Drives in part because I wanted there to be some cool content associated with both of these important gods.

I'd also like to see more on Talavet and Weydan. I have characters who worship both of these gods, but really what I know about them came from the Core Rule Book.

Hmm

I hope this book will have a section about background information like Tech Revolution had and talk about how/if magic is used on a industrial scale, how common spellcaster are in Starfinder and how spellcasting is learned.

Starfinder Galactic Magic Chapter Titles:
OVERVIEW, CHAPTER 1: CLASSES, CHAPTER 2: GEAR, CHAPTER 3: SPELLS, CHAPTER 4: FAITHS, CHAPTER 5: THE MAGICAL GALAXY

Roll20 virtual tabletop has announced support of this product.

Let’s try an experiment. What questions about this product do you have that would either make you preorder it or subscribe?

I'm kinda wildly in love with Starfinder and was going to pick this up anyway, but as long as you're taking questions, I'm really curious about what's in that The Magical Galaxy chapter.

Ooo! I must know. Also is there a god of Skittermanders?

What support is there in this book for existing classes besides what is revealed in the description above?

How do the new faith-based options for petitioning higher powers work?

Also, can you tell us more about the new magical organizations and spellcasting schools? Are they just setting flavor (nothing wrong with that) or are there some game rules to go with them?

Let’s try an experiment. What questions about this product do you have that would either make you preorder it or subscribe?

If I could pre-order the PDF, I would!

Ooo! I must know. Also is there a god of Skittermanders?

The fact that it wasn't mentioned in Near Space makes me think no, but - we know from one of the PaizoCon or GenCon Streams that there's a write-up of Saints of the Veskarium, which, awesome :D I will eat my hat Skittermander dice bag if there isn't some kind of Skittermander Patron Saint of Unrequested Help in there somewhere! Like, a great Vesk battle hero ascends to Sainthood in the eyes of Damoritosh, and its faithful Skittermander squire / equerry / whatever just like....follows along to continue being helpful? Like, the Samwise Gamgee of the Veskarium! /swoon

I should wait until I have more questions to post but is create water in there in any form?

I'm kinda wildly in love with Starfinder and was going to pick this up anyway, but as long as you're taking questions, I'm really curious about what's in that The Magical Galaxy chapter.

Ooo! I must know. Also is there a god of Skittermanders?

Sections include an OVERVIEW, MAGIC INSTITUTIONS, MAGICAL FACTIONS, and MAGICAL PHENOMENA.

If I am reading correctly, there is not a skittermander god, but there is a saint.

I should wait until I have more questions to post but is create water in there in any form?

Not by that name.

Back of the book:

UNLEASH COSMIC POWER

Unravel the eldritch mysteries of the galaxy with Starfinder Galactic Magic! This book demystifies Starfinder’s magical possibilities, providing your characters fantastic abilities to overcome any challenge. Whether you master the secrets of arcane academies, steal spells with supernatural finesse, or draw power from the gods themselves, Galactic Magic redefines what you thought possible with:

The new precog character class, who can bend time to her will and outwit foes with combat predictions!

Exciting ways to channel magical might, with reality-warping rituals and over 100 new spells!

New player options, from magical variants for every character class to legendary artifacts and magic items.

Discoveries about the galaxy’s most powerful mystical forces, from alignment singularities and metastars to deities and the boons they offer!

A study of eldritch secrets and everyday arcana alike, including how a magic user navigates society and the organizations that might support and oppose them.

Back of the book:

UNLEASH COSMIC POWER

Unravel the eldritch mysteries of the galaxy with Starfinder Galactic Magic! This book demystifies Starfinder’s magical possibilities, providing your characters fantastic abilities to overcome any challenge. Whether you master the secrets of arcane academies, steal spells with supernatural finesse, or draw power from the gods themselves, Galactic Magic redefines what you thought possible with:

The new precog character class, who can bend time to her will and outwit foes with combat predictions!

Exciting ways to channel magical might, with reality-warping rituals and over 100 new spells!

New player options, from magical variants for every character class to legendary artifacts and magic items.

Discoveries about the galaxy’s most powerful mystical forces, from alignment singularities and metastars to deities and the boons they offer!

A study of eldritch secrets and everyday arcana alike, including how a magic user navigates society and the organizations that might support and oppose them.

It's fun to see the synergy going on between Pathfinder and Starfinder, both going through waves of tech or magic-themed books, Starfinder benefitting from Strength of Thousands' focus on magic schools, and Dark Archive later exploring magical phenomena and anomalies Starfinder gets to dive into with this book.

I also take fiendish joy in crossing the streams.

Hmm

In terms of deities -- I think it boils down to Rovagug and Torag are gone (probably with Lost Golarion) and every other deity from Pathfinder is still around. Other deities may have gained or lost followers, and a few new ones may have appeared, although most such new deities were for the most part primarily worshiped outside of Golarion in the Pathfinder era.

Of course, with that article about the Elven Diaspora, I am curious to know whether somebody slipped up and gave incorrect information or the Gap was much shorter than we were previously led to believe.

Hard to say. We have some sources that point to it lasting millennia, others that point to it lasting a few centuries.

Let’s try an experiment. What questions about this product do you have that would either make you preorder it or subscribe?

What is the spell-casting attribute for the Precog?

In terms of deities -- I think it boils down to Rovagug and Torag are gone (probably with Lost Golarion) and every other deity from Pathfinder is still around.

Nethys appears to be gone as well.

I have a scenario addressing that in my head canon I really want to write up for Infinite, but I have a feeling it would never get approved. Assuming this book doesn't make it immediately obsolete...

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Let’s try an experiment. What questions about this product do you have that would either make you preorder it or subscribe?

What is the spell-casting attribute for the Precog?

Dexterity AND Intelligence.

Color me confused lol. Interesting.

Hard to say. We have some sources that point to it lasting millennia, others that point to it lasting a few centuries.

I have a vague memory of some material alluding to some temporal shenanigans with the Gap making its exact length impossible to pin down and it might have been different lengths for different civilizations. But, I don't remember the specific source. That could just be board speculation my brain misfiled as canon.

Color me confused lol. Interesting.

It's probably "dex for abilities, int for spells" dealio

theelcorspectre wrote:

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Let’s try an experiment. What questions about this product do you have that would either make you preorder it or subscribe?

What is the spell-casting attribute for the Precog?

Dexterity AND Intelligence.

Well, I should say, Dex for paradoxes, Int for spells.

"Your Dexterity is your key ability score, and it determines the number of time-altering paradoxes you can use each day, as well as the saving throw DC of many precog abilities. Your Intelligence determines your spellcasting ability, the saving throw DC of your spells, and the number of bonus spells you can cast per day."

Ah I see. That's very cool, I like it. Thank you Aaron.

So the Precog is D.A.D. (Dual Ability Dependent)?

So the Precog is D.A.D. (Dual Ability Dependent)?

Mind-body connection.

So the Precog is D.A.D. (Dual Ability Dependent)?

You could have written that so many ways, but...you just had to use the one that gives us Magical Time Daddies, didn't you XD

I mean, if Golarion gods are still kicking around, I'm presuming other deities are too.

I wanna see more of how the Eldest are lurking around.

Ragadahn has so much ocean access, and at least one planet I vaguely remember is said to worship him. Wanna see how that works stripped of that Land of the Linnorm Kings influence.

Also, The Lantern King. Has he taken tech gremlins into his fiery folds in order to cause Space Mischief?

Can I start canonically calling Shyka a Lord of Time yet? *writes note to self* Priest theme Precog of Shyka is good idea.

I must know about my precious Eldest (more Outer Gods lore would also be fun, I'm loving a lot of the tidbits of things between them and Black Butterfly and Desna).

Aaron Shanks wrote:

theelcorspectre wrote:

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Let’s try an experiment. What questions about this product do you have that would either make you preorder it or subscribe?

What is the spell-casting attribute for the Precog?

Dexterity AND Intelligence.

Well, I should say, Dex for paradoxes, Int for spells.

"Your Dexterity is your key ability score, and it determines the number of time-altering paradoxes you can use each day, as well as the saving throw DC of many precog abilities. Your Intelligence determines your spellcasting ability, the saving throw DC of your spells, and the number of bonus spells you can cast per day."

that's neat but it sucks that you have to focus on one being good or the other being good. My group was enjoying the idea of a Dex caster.

Were paradoxes per day changed? My group found it felt a little low to only have like three of them of them for a good chunk of your levels.

I hope the book can at least come out by the end of January, my group is waiting to start a new campaign and I really want to play the finished Precog.

I hope the precog ends up getting buffed abit to compensate with having a weaker casting stat then what I had during the playtest.

I hope the precog ends up getting buffed a bit to compensate with having a weaker casting stat then what I had during the playtest.

The playtest version was more than a little nuts. Strongest stat in the game to casting DCs, full BAB, and a bucket of rerolls/prerolls every day. The ones I played with were better ranged soldiers than the ranged soldiers and still had full spellcasting. Having a limited spell list really didn't matter because the best spells were on there, including ones that made no sense (explosive blast? Do the samsungs warranties expire randomly and you know when?)

Milo v3 wrote:

I hope the precog ends up getting buffed a bit to compensate with having a weaker casting stat then what I had during the playtest.

The playtest version was more than a little nuts. Strongest stat in the game to casting DCs, full BAB, and a bucket of rerolls/prerolls every day. The ones I played with were better ranged soldiers than the ranged soldiers and still had full spellcasting. Having a limited spell list really didn't matter because the best spells were on there, including ones that made no sense (explosive blast? Do the samsungs warranties expire randomly and you know when?)

Oh with full bab it can definitely be too strong, I don't think it having full bab was appropriate without something to tone it down. But even then, that was a high level issue since that only happened at level 14 and onward iirc. From my experience without the full bab it was fine. The DCs weren't really an issue because of how the class intentionally didn't have DC boosters as automatic as other casters had.

I am unsure what to think of the spells to a degree, since I think we were told that there were going to be more appropriate spells in the book final just using the existing spells like they do with their other class playtests.

The DCs weren't really an issue because of how the class intentionally didn't have DC boosters as automatic as other casters had.

eh? Besides boosting your casting stat and taking a feat that's available to everyone what DC boosters would those be?

For some reason I was thinking technomancer wasn't the only caster to get Spell Focus for free. My mistake.

Can we look forward to Galactic Magic adding to player-character telepathy?

Can we look forward to Galactic Magic adding to player-character telepathy?

The envoy can get Psychic Expertise/Psychic Communicator which gives you, among other things, full telepathy at 9th level. There is also a new EMPATHIC COMMUNICATION spell that mentions telepathy.

Psst. Ask me about SCHOOL SPECIALISTs.

Will there be school specialists?

Will there be... Schools?

I'd like to know more about school specialists! Is there, like, a 1-800 number I can call, or some pamphlets, or someone I can ask about school specialists..?