keftiu |
I think akitonian heritages would be great for humans and ysoki. The ikeshti should probably be their own ancestry of they do show up, though
I think Paizo is rightfully gunshy about human Heritages, but a ysoki one might be fun; as for the iruxi, we aren’t bound to them being ikeshti the way they are in Starfinder, as the two canons are distinct! I hope the lizardfolk of Akiton get some love here.
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I think if anything justified another human heritage, it's being from another planet. I do understand the hesitance, but I think it would be hard for a Hylki heritage to bare many implications.
I'll have to double check, but I think the Ikeshti were established in PF1, back in this planet book. I need to go dig up that book. I guess I would be fine with them as an Iruxi heritage as long as they are eboth small and can squirt blood from their eyes.
keftiu |
I think if anything justified another human heritage, it's being from another planet. I do understand the hesitance, but I think it would be hard for a Hylki heritage to bare many implications./QUOTE]
Everything about them in 1e underscored that they were just normal humans who happened to be red. Anything exceptional about them you can either do with the Cold heritage or playing Imperial bloodline Sorcerers.
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Everything about them in 1e underscored that they were just normal humans who happened to be red. Anything exceptional about them you can either do with the Cold heritage or playing Imperial bloodline Sorcerers.
I still think they should just be like normal humans, except that they're red and they lay eggs. :)
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keftiu wrote:I still think they should just be like normal humans, except that they're red and they lay eggs. :)
Everything about them in 1e underscored that they were just normal humans who happened to be red. Anything exceptional about them you can either do with the Cold heritage or playing Imperial bloodline Sorcerers.
I don't think Hylki actually lay eggs, since they are actually Humans and Red Martians aren't...they just weirdly look like them.
Also, Barsoom actually exists in the Pathfinder mythos to some level.
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Putting it out there for whenever subscribers start to get their books: how's the gazetteer in the back? I'm curious to hear any standout bits of culture, especially info on the local folk.
I enjoyed my read. The cultural overview was extremely brief and general, as perhaps to be expected for a small article on an entire planet. Most information was about how particular ancestries adapted to the environment. Also, notably, it looks like the human section was omitted entirely. I found the tidbit that formorian queens have the ability to create entirely new castes when needed, and gave an example of Formorian mageslayers that were originally evolved to fight the king of biting ants.
The second half focused on a single city, Seldo. I was intrigued by the mentioned character of “Cookie”, a Shobbad cook that has been working in the city for longer than most of the Ysoki residents have been alive. This is pointed out as extremely unusual for the mostly nomadic ancestry. I presume he comes up during the adventure, but I have not read it yet.
keftiu |
Reposting my thoughts, as I accidentally tossed them into the GM forum:
This adventure is really fun! I got to skim a subscriber friend's copy and liked what I saw. Everything to do with Seldo and the chase jumps off the page. The backmatter is what I'd most been clamoring for, and I'm pleased to report that it lived up to my hype!
I'm really, really enjoying the changes to the Ikeshti; it's nice to see them be more than aliens whose entire writeup is about violence and reproduction. The section on their place in Seldo is a lovely bit of nuance. I'm as impressed as I was when I saw how Starfinder tackle Lashunta biology/gender stuff - well done.
It's also interesting to see Shobhad have their appearance changed - they used to have pretty human-like faces, but now are noseless, tusked creatures. I wonder what prompted the shift?
Bummed to not see the local Humans written up at all.
I'm going to be a parody of myself here and say: I hope we get everyone written up here as Ancestries someday! I have friends who would definitely enjoy getting to play as a Formian, Ikeshti, or Shobhad. My hope for an Ancestry Guide 2 grows by the day!
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I will say I'm a little bummed that there's no regional or city-scope maps for the Akiton locations. That's definitely one of my favorite things about Gazetteers, because it makes it easier for me to throw down extra points of interest or use the information elsewhere in the gazetteer to present a more living space.
However, skimming the adventure part it seems really cool, and Seldo will be a dope place to explore regardless, especially because one of my players is planning on playing a Ysoki if we end up picking up this AP, and it'll be nice to play out people being completely unperturbed with her presence but confused by the more common ancestries in the party.
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While only marginally relevant to the adventure proper, I want to give a shoutout to this sidebar at the start; spoilers for a secondary villain you fight in this.
SOUL CAGES
Starting with the lich Dwandek in this adventure, we’re making a long‑overdue terminology change. The use of the word “phylactery” as the item in which a lich stores their soul is both inaccurate and inappropriate given the evil nature of liches and the word’s connotation with real-world religious practices. Instead, liches in Pathfinder Second Edition store their souls in objects called soul cages—an act that liches see as an ultimate act of defiance against the cycle of life and death. Liches consider their souls not as things to cherish, but as weaknesses that, once locked away in a cage, allow for eternal undeath.
Apart from this change in name, the mechanics for how liches function remain unaltered.
I remember this being a point of, err, debate on social media some time ago - kudos for recognizing it and, if I'm honest, coming up with a very elegant replacement, one that I hope makes its way back into the Bestiary and is also expanded upon in Book of the Dead.
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I'm reading the adventure, and there are a couple things I'd like to say thus far.
First, I'd like to echo RiverMesa's praise. It's a welcome change.
Secondly, I'd like to give Michael a shout out for that (potential) cameo. It's pretty rare that an AP mentions parts of the Inner Sea (or Golarion) that don't directly affect the plot, so it's nice to get a reminder that there is a wider world out there filled with people who might have reason to interact with the Magaambya. It dovetails nicely with how Fists of the Ruby Phoenix introduced Mafika Ayuwari, and how he's used in this AP. I came out of Fists liking him and being glad that the PCs had a chance to help him (and be helped in return), so it warms my heart to see him at home and see how he came out of the Tournament. Worldbuilding and continuity are good things, is what I'm getting at.
ETA:
Thirdly, I want to give another shout-out for the magnificent chapter intros. This not only gives me an insight into how I might RP this character if I ever ran this AP, but they're just pure fun to read.
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Reposting my thoughts, as I accidentally tossed them into the GM forum:
It's also interesting to see Shobhad have their appearance changed - they used to have pretty human-like faces, but now are noseless, tusked creatures. I wonder what prompted the shift?
That is the depiction they were given in Starfinder, so supposedly they are just crossing their t's and dotting their eyes.
Not sure why the change was instigated in Starfinder, though, it was revealed that the Shobhad were created by the Witchwyrds, and are sort of genetic cousins to the Kasatha, so maybe that is more in line with their appearance?
Evan Tarlton |
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I am liking what I have seen in this AP.
Same here. It's a worthy companion to the Mwangi Expanse book (which is quite possibly the best book Paizo has ever put out).
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Looking at this section of the AP, I wonder if they would ever making a campaign book for Castrovel or Akiton in pathfinder times, I know Golarion is a big deal, and we haven’t seen most of the world #GiveMeSouthernGarund, but it would be cool to have a fantasy romp across some of the other worlds in the “Pact Worlds” system prior to it being the Pact.
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keftiu |
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Distant Worlds 2 could be interesting, though I'd definitely rather expand Golarion itself - an Adventure or two on other planets would whip, though.
I’m torn, because I very much want Arcadia and Southern Garund… but I’d also /love/ a Lashunta Ancestry, and think that the pulp-inspired space fantasy of Golarion’s solar system is one of the most unique things the setting has.
I’m a little greedy :p