Pathfinder Gamemastery Guide

Relics, eh? A throwback to Weapons of Legacy perhaps?

Sweet cover image!

^ Agreed!

--C.

Relics, eh? A throwback to Weapons of Legacy perhaps?

Relics in 1e are scaling items that get more powers when you do "triumphs" related to legacy of the item

So yeah, I'm glad they are returning :D And glad for library research rules and hexploration and variant rules and... Glad for lot of things!

My only confusion related to cover is that while it is call back to 1e gamemastery cover, this one isn't actually referencing the final confrontation with Alaznist from Return of the Runelords. Heck I don't think she even has black dragon ally in that one?

O hai gestalt multiclassing, it's been a while.

Will there be a deluxe edition for this book as was hinted at?

They have done more than hint at it.

They have done more than hint at it.

Sweet. I just didn't see the product listed. Thanks!

Tag yourself on the cover. I'm the sheathed sword attached halfway down a skirt.

Awesome!

Tag yourself on the cover. I'm the sheathed sword attached halfway down a skirt.

Well... Magic? Or rather, MYTHIC MAGIC!

Hmm. I thought this would be where the monster creation rules would be, but aside from the 'and the denizens and treasures that lurk within' line, I don't see anything to indicate those will be in this. That... concerns me, since monster creation is something I want.

Isn't that located in bestiary usually?

Isn't that located in bestiary usually?

Nope. Monster creation rules will not be in the bestiary but will be available 'fairly shortly thereafter'.

Then I think this is indeed the book that provides them.

Hi, this was my first "Product description page," which after 5 years is actually a bit surprising. Anyways, the "denizens that lurk within" are 100% monsters and NPCs, so there will be "Rules, advice, and guidelines to build" them.

Hi, this was my first "Product description page," which after 5 years is actually a bit surprising. Anyways, the "denizens that lurk within" are 100% monsters and NPCs, so there will be "Rules, advice, and guidelines to build" them.

Entirely understandable! I'm a self-published author by trade myself, and I swear that book descriptions are one of the hardest part of the process of publishing to get right.

Also, I'm really glad to hear that the monster creation rules will be in there. ^^

Why am I so excited about variant rules before the regular rules are even out?

The red haired woman on the cover appears to be Alaznist, seeing she's wearing the same clothes as on the cover of AP #133 and is wielding the same weapon. The Thassilonian wrath rune that makes up the back of the throne supports that, too. But isn't she supposed to be dead now?

The red haired woman on the cover appears to be Alaznist, seeing she's wearing the same clothes as on the cover of AP #133 and is wielding the same weapon. The Thassilonian wrath rune that makes up the back of the throne supports that, too. But isn't she supposed to be dead now?

As I said, its call back to 1e Gamemastery book where Karzoug was sitting on throne with dragon behind him(he was also dead when that book was released :p)

Its taking bit more creative liberties though since gamemastery cover was pretty much inspired by the RotR while this one is more inspired by Gamemastery cover than final battle with Alaznist

Ah, I see. I also must have missed you post pointing out Alaznist.

So we know what to expect for the Gamemastery Guides for Pathfinder Third to Seventh Edition, then!

Zaister,

I'm hoping that we'll get maybe a Red Dragon for Xanderghul. Maybe. I dunno.

You guys want to post any more Return of the Runelords spoilers for those of us playing it?

You guys want to post any more Return of the Runelords spoilers for those of us playing it?

Well, I think nobody was expecting you, of all people, to follow closely product threads for PF2e :P

The red haired woman on the cover appears to be Alaznist, seeing she's wearing the same clothes as on the cover of AP #133 and is wielding the same weapon.

What Runelords looks like has never really been a spoiler(their statues are all over Varisia) O_o Also as I said, this cover doesn't spoil the Returns since its more based on Gamemastery 1e cover than what happens in AP.

What Runelords looks like has never really been a spoiler(their statues are all over Varisia) O_o Also as I said, this cover doesn't spoil the Returns since its more based on Gamemastery 1e cover than what happens in AP.

The Cover doesn't spoil it. What Zaister mentions at the end of his post about her does...

They asked a question.

I like how Pathfinder is back to author names on the cover. It's a nice tradition of the board game industry, worth carrying over to pnp RPGs.

I like how Pathfinder is back to author names on the cover. It's a nice tradition of the board game industry, worth carrying over to pnp RPGs.

Can I order Special Edition copy that has all the authors' names on it, please? :3

I think it'd be cool, and look cool too.

That's what I was looking for!
As a GM, I've always used my own campaign settings, complete with its own deities, planes, kingdoms, technology, unique monsters, et cetera, along with a few fluff and rules changes (I try to keep those as small as possible). Is this product the go-to resource for me? It looks tasty...

Will this book feature haunts or any similar subsystem, just as its 1E counterpart did?

Even better! Haunts are a core type of hazard, alongside traps and environmental hazards, so they're in core (and they were in the playtest's hazards as well).

Hmmm, I expected a more generic term, so we could have diabolic haunts or fey haunts that weren´t undead in nature.

Hmmm, I expected a more generic term, so we could have diabolic haunts or fey haunts that weren´t undead in nature.

At least in the playtest, there's nothing about the haunt trait that makes it undead-only.

Of all the books in the lineup for 2E, this is the one I'm most excited about. I've been running a homebrew Playtest campaign since February, converting to 2E when it's released, and the sooner I get access to some of the things in this book, the better. Premade NPCs, monster creation rules, guidance on magic item creation... it can't come soon enough for me.

Even better! Haunts are a core type of hazard, alongside traps and environmental hazards, so they're in core (and they were in the playtest's hazards as well).

Hoo! Glad to hear that, Mark! I don't know how I didn't notice them in the playtest file, but it's fantastic that they're a core hazard now! :)

Creative variant rules to customize the rules to make the game your own, including variant bonus, feat, and magic item progressions, characters gaining the power of multiple classes at once, and more!

I'm really excited about this. And I'm *really* hoping (cross my fingers) that there'll be at least a couple suggestions for optional rules for how to boost Charisma, for GMs who are so inclined.

After a decade of arguments and flamewars about how to do this on this site alone, ranging from the dawn of PF1 (like in this 1000 post thread) to the dawn of PF2 (like in this thread), having some kind of semi-official guidance for GMs to work from would be a godsend.

If bribes of any kind (cookies? burboun?) are required, I can make it happen!

Zaister wrote:

The red haired woman on the cover appears to be Alaznist, seeing she's wearing the same clothes as on the cover of AP #133 and is wielding the same weapon. The Thassilonian wrath rune that makes up the back of the throne supports that, too. But isn't she supposed to be dead now?

As I said, its call back to 1e Gamemastery book where Karzoug was sitting on throne with dragon behind him(he was also dead when that book was released :p)

Its taking bit more creative liberties though since gamemastery cover was pretty much inspired by the RotR while this one is more inspired by Gamemastery cover than final battle with Alaznist

I’ve just remembered- when the GMG came out, the version of the Karzoug fight was the 3.5 version, where I don’t believe he had a dragon friend. When it was compiled, he gained the dragon, retroactively making the cover accurate!

It has been said that this book could slip to a Later release date...

January - February is what they said.

I'm hoping for a variant rule system for a more D&D 5e prepared casting system for pathfinder 5e.

I generally feel like the versatility in spellcasting is undermined a little bit when players have to prepare or know a specific level version of a spell to cast it and not "know Fireball and cast it at any slot you want that's 3rd or above when prepared".

Or I might Just homebrew it myself if needed.

Oh hey, this shows up in product list again. It had disappeared for while for some website related reasons :D

I think library research rules were covered under "victory point" subsystem, but was verbal duels something this book would have?

Wish this one was coming out sooner, some of these rules would be of great use already.

So, we have to wait until January to get NPC stats? Lame

That entirely depends on what NPCs you need?

Build from the ground up? Yes, but they are working on hopefully getting the monster building rules out for people to use before then.

Otherwise we have the Bestiary and the stats in the Adventures.

I'm getting this book anyway so it's kind of a moot point, but will adventure paths be referencing NPC statblocks from this book? I'm getting back into Pathfinder after only being at the beginning of 1e, and I just want to get a sense of what books I want to have on me for future APs!

That entirely depends on what NPCs you need?

Build from the ground up? Yes, but they are working on hopefully getting the monster building rules out for people to use before then.

Otherwise we have the Bestiary and the stats in the Adventures.

It IS pretty unfortunate for people like me who are obsessed with getting rule details right :p Like, no matter what, it is not fun that there is four month gap between release and having all "necessary" books for GM.(npc/monster creation rules is something I consider "necessary" since while there are work arounds, honestly running campaign with only the bestiary would be hard)

Not much anyone can do about it though, hopefully Paizo gets the building rules out nice time and not few weeks before january.

The Build Rules are out!

And as the preview on Paizo's Facebook indicates, there will be rules for gestalt PCs in this book.