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So... You've given us lists of the Primal Inevitables, Monad, & Protean Lords.
Could you also do one for the Psychopomp Ushers?
Please & thank you.
Carry on!
--C.
Atropos; the Last Sister (Fate, sleep, youth)
Barzahk; the Passage (Compasses, travelers, vigils)
Ceyannan; the Shepherd (Final words, lost souls, searches)
Dammar; the Denied (Liquor, luck, medicine)
Imot; the Symbol of Doom (Inevitability, mathematics, portents)
Mother Vulture; the Flesheater (Consumption, renewal, transformation)
Mrtyu; Death’s Consort (Poetry, trauma, war)
Narakaas; the Cleansing Sentence (Atonement, difficult choices, pain)
The Pale Horse; the Lash and the Plough (Beasts of burden, duty, revenge) - Note: Former daemon, possibly a Horseman (!)
Phlegyas; the Consoler of Atheists (Atheists, legacies, reincarnation)
Saloc; the Minder of Immortals (Agency, bronze, education)
Teshallas; the Primordial Poison (Aging, poison, venomous creatures)
Vale; the Court of Ancestors (Consequence, superstition, tradition)
Vavaalrav; the Steeple’s Skull (Gargoyles, holy ground, rest)
Vonymos; the Mourning Storm (Catastrophes, last stands, suicides)
So four protean lords, monad, four prime invetables... So does that mean there are 15 psychopomp ushers? Or are there other neutral demigods here too?
Yes, there are 15 psychopomp ushers. Makes sense given Pharasma's cosmic significance.

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Ooh, nice! I'd love to hear a little about the prestige class if anybody's got the time, means, and inclination. Thanks! Very excited to get my copy.
OK, first I would like to address a mistake I made earlier:
So...I don't suppose we'd get a feat listing?...
I replied there were no new feats. I forgot this:
This feat allows you to get the boons and benefits listed with each demi-gods entry for performing daily rituals.
Sorry about that! Now on to this:
Proctors can be of any spell-casting class and be a minimum of 7th level (based on skill ranks) before proceeding. They need Alertness and Monitor Obedience as feats. They need to have met with a Monitor of the kind of the demi-god they worship and rejected the offer of aid from a somewhat powerful fiend or celestial to become one. They are guaranteed on death of becoming an aeon, inevitable, protean, or psychopomp (based on their god).
They exemplify an expression of which group they belong to at 2nd level, with the choices being Executors (usually tied to inevitables), Fosters (usually tied to psychopomps), Harmonizers (usually tied to the Monad), and Impulsives (usually tied to proteans). Each comes with an appropriate manner of behavior/mission and benefit.
As they rise in levels they gain abilities and boons based on their god entry and the higher level obedience boons listed there. The abilities of each proctor would be quite unique and very much in tune with the deity they worship.

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Hmm, come to think about it, I think Shadix Who Dreams is literally only previously mentioned psychopomp usher not explored in this article. I mean not a surprise since they were briefly mentioned in Thrushmoor Terror but still, I can't think of any other psychopomp usher that didn't get included.
So that is nice :D

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And now we know the names
of those who plague Dou-Bral's waking dream
foes of the Survivor and The Eternal Rose
and now we know
THOSE WHO REMAIN
D-E-T-A-I-L-S!
I'm gonna spoiler tag my question just in case:

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QuidEst wrote:Ooh, nice! I'd love to hear a little about the prestige class if anybody's got the time, means, and inclination. Thanks! Very excited to get my copy.OK, first I would like to address a mistake I made earlier:
Thomas Seitz wrote:So...I don't suppose we'd get a feat listing?...I replied there were no new feats. I forgot this:
** spoiler omitted **
Sorry about that! Now on to this:
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Thank you! Those are some tricky flavor prerequisites, but that sounds very cool.

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Rysky wrote:And now we know the names
of those who plague Dou-Bral's waking dream
foes of the Survivor and The Eternal Rose
and now we know
THOSE WHO REMAIND-E-T-A-I-L-S!
I'm gonna spoiler tag my question just in case:
** spoiler omitted **

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I wonder if any of this explains that ominous text about number of incarnation and cycle that infernal contracts on material plane start with ._.

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I wonder if any of this explains that ominous text about number of incarnation and cycle that infernal contracts on material plane start with ._.
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Alternatively, *some* beings survive from one multiverse to the next, like the aforementioned Manasaputras and their dark counterparts. It would perhaps make Pharasma less "unique", but that could be easily solved by saying it's a "different" sort of surviving - Pharasma survived as herself, while the others have to be "reborn".
Also, mean, James, mean.

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This book is MAGNIFICENT. I feel its last words (and yes there is a Usher for those too) open the way for PF2 not by changing the universe as others have done but by changing how we see it.
Someone has loved their reading of Marvel's Earth X and made it theirs. EXCELLENT.
The Monad
Asmodeus and Ihys
And where might the Seal be ?
Those who remain
So many good things about the End Times too, and Pharasma's children

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This book is MAGNIFICENT. I feel its last words (and yes there is a Usher for those too) open the way for PF2 not by changing the universe as others have done but by changing how we see it.
Someone has loved their reading of Marvel's Earth X and made it theirs. EXCELLENT.
The Monad ** spoiler omitted **
Asmodeus and Ihys ** spoiler omitted **
And where might the Seal be ?
Those who remain ** spoiler omitted **
So many good things about the End Times too, and Pharasma's children
I'm glad you've enjoyed those sections.

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Hmm...totally called it on Pale Horse! :D
Almost mentioned it too because it is also excellent. This book is a true cornucopia of great ideas and clues and hooks and inklings.
Really people, if you read this post, if you like Golarion and/or its Great Beyond and/or its cosmology, buy this and enjoy :-D
I was surprised that the Positive and Negative energy planes were almost never mentioned in the excerpts though.

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One of my favorite things about this book, and equally so about the prior books set around Tabris's in-world writings, is the use of excerpts written by Tabris. It opens up the lingering question of just how much do or even can you trust him, or perhaps trust his sources that fed him information.
The use of an unreliable or biased narrator when juxtaposed with the particular elements when Tabris's in-world writing contradicts certain elements of planar prehistory (such as the nature of the Abyss, a pre-existant Maelstrom, the manasaputras, the positive and negative energy planes largely not mentioned, etc)rather than being a problem, just opens up a certain delightful element of mystery that I adore.
The steps that you can take to resolve the apparent mutually exclusive bits of history written both in and out of game open up a lot of questions and plot hooks. I think folks have had a lot to work with for BotD, CotR, and now CoR to play around with in that regards! This book is a world-builder's dream, especially if you're a fan of Golarion's cosmology and a nerd about the lore therein. :D

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Oh, good, good. This is excellent.
I'm also satified with what the Monad turned out to be, but quite surprised about the Asmodeus and Ihys.
Almost mentioned it too because it is also excellent. This book is a true cornucopia of great ideas and clues and hooks and inklings.
Really people, if you read this post, if you like Golarion and/or its Great Beyond and/or its cosmology, buy this and enjoy :-D
Oh, I'm definetly planning to! Just have to figure how to fit everything I wanna get this month in my budget, but this is definetly one of the top spots of the list.
I was surprised that the Positive and Negative energy planes were almost never mentioned in the excerpts though.
Huh, that's curious. Tell me?
I ask this because JJ has once said (mentioned? mused?) that Outer Gods and Great Old Ones survive the destruction of the multiverse, and they are creatures of the Prime Material. Given that the Positive Plane is intrinsically tied to the Prime Material in PF's cosmology, maybe it survives each "hard reset" as well...

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One of my favorite things about this book, and equally so about the prior books set around Tabris's in-world writings, is the use of excerpts written by Tabris. It opens up the lingering question of just how much do or even can you trust him, or perhaps trust his sources that fed him information.
I'm sure it was all true when he wrote it.
It's just that what's objectively 'true' has a disconcerting habit of changing, depending on the current value of the reality constant.

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Awesome book! wonderful. Who should we thank for all this NEW stuff???
Crystal Frasier, Todd Stewart, Ron Lundeen, and I wrote this book. From memory, these are the parts people worked on:
Crystal: Psychopomp ushers, psychopomp summary, and new psychopomps
Todd: Protean lords, protean summary, axiomite summary, new proteans
Ron: Monitor worship chapter, new aeons, new inevitables
John: Excerpts from the Concordance of Rivals, inevitables summary, aeons summary, the Monad, and primal inevitables
Artists include David Alvarez (cover), Nicolás Espinoza, Sammy Khalid, Gabriela Marchioro, Alyssa McCarthy, and Javier Rodríguez. If a particular piece really grabbed your attention, we can look up who worked on it.
Development leads were Eleanor Ferron and Luis Loza.
As general advice—and not specifically here, as I know you might not have the book to reference yet—check out the credits pages of all the books you enjoy. The artists, authors, editors, developers, graphic designers, and company put a lot into these, and it’s always exciting to hear when our work’s appreciated (reviews are lovely). And this can help you learn which authors’ work especially excites you, helping point you to other works you might have missed but would otherwise enjoy.

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Nada.
** spoiler omitted **
My interpretation was
I get the impression that around this localized vacuum the Big Lady P build up the various spheres of existence (inner and outer) and just happened to catch some of those that remain inside it. So basically you get a bubbly of vacuum (prime) surrounded by larger and larger bubbles of new planes. Out side the last bubble (the maelstrom/abyss) you have even more vacuum where more of those that remain live. Which is also basically just the Prime (hard vacuum) again, but with an infinite quintessence bubble of this multiverse floating in it.
When this reality eventually ends, it gets exposed to that hardest of vacuums, and pops like a bubble.
Edit: Also forgot to add. This is an amazing book, definitely in my top 5. Great job guys.

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So on less world shattering note (also I need to figure out way to time travel to future just so I can get this book and concentrate again :p ), did this book also come with artifact for Concordance of Rivals so you can now finally collect all three books?
No, but there is a reference by the Absalom archivist that the previous two volumes had gone missing before he got the manuscript. It is even hinted at that having all three together is highly unlikely to ever happen...
...make of that what you will. :)

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Oh noes
(ah well, chronicles of righteous artifact IS the censored version so technically you can't ever have all three artifacts together even though we do have rules for two of them :p )
But yeah, I hope thats hint there will be eventually be AP or plotline were all three books show up :D We already know who has the book of the damned

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Patrick C. wrote:** spoiler omitted **Rysky wrote:And now we know the names
of those who plague Dou-Bral's waking dream
foes of the Survivor and The Eternal Rose
and now we know
THOSE WHO REMAIND-E-T-A-I-L-S!
I'm gonna spoiler tag my question just in case:
** spoiler omitted **

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James Jacobs wrote:** spoiler omitted **Patrick C. wrote:** spoiler omitted **Rysky wrote:And now we know the names
of those who plague Dou-Bral's waking dream
foes of the Survivor and The Eternal Rose
and now we know
THOSE WHO REMAIND-E-T-A-I-L-S!
I'm gonna spoiler tag my question just in case:
** spoiler omitted **
Possibly.

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Can anyone share a little bit more detail about the protean lords that got detailed?
They are all chaotic neutral (and thus all offer the Chaos domain and of course the Protean subdomain) and they are all genderfluid. I can't tell you any more until I get home and can check my physical book.

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I finally figured out something that's been poking my brain for a week: the illurishi protean is totally copping this fella's style! At first I'd just recognized the little green staff poking out of the scabbard, but once I made the link I noticed the whole outfit.
(Going with "this fella" for Wrath of the Righteous spoilers should anyone still be concerned about such a thing)

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I finally figured out something that's been poking my brain for a week: the illurishi protean is totally copping this fella's style! At first I'd just recognized the little green staff poking out of the scabbard, but once I made the link I noticed the whole outfit.
(Going with "this fella" for Wrath of the Righteous spoilers should anyone still be concerned about such a thing)

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Andrew Mullen wrote:** spoiler omitted **I finally figured out something that's been poking my brain for a week: the illurishi protean is totally copping this fella's style! At first I'd just recognized the little green staff poking out of the scabbard, but once I made the link I noticed the whole outfit.
(Going with "this fella" for Wrath of the Righteous spoilers should anyone still be concerned about such a thing)
My next campaign is totally having a gaggle of voidworms or azuretzi (aka mockery wyrms) under a cloak, pretending to be an

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Rysky wrote:My next campaign is totally having a gaggle of voidworms or azuretzi (aka mockery wyrms) under a cloak, pretending to be an ** spoiler omitted **Andrew Mullen wrote:** spoiler omitted **I finally figured out something that's been poking my brain for a week: the illurishi protean is totally copping this fella's style! At first I'd just recognized the little green staff poking out of the scabbard, but once I made the link I noticed the whole outfit.
(Going with "this fella" for Wrath of the Righteous spoilers should anyone still be concerned about such a thing)
Yessssssss

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StygianRose wrote:Can anyone share a little bit more detail about the protean lords that got detailed?They are all chaotic neutral (and thus all offer the Chaos domain and of course the Protean subdomain) and they are all genderfluid. I can't tell you any more until I get home and can check my physical book.
Okay, the book doesn't actually mention any subdomains.
The protean lords are:
Il'surrish the Wanderer (Animal, Artifice, Chaos, Plant) lord of formlessness, loss of control, and potential
Narriseminek the Crownless, the Maker of Kings (Chaos, Knowledge, Liberation, Madness) lord of ascendance, keketars, and revelations
Ssila'meshnik the Colorless Lord (Chaos, Knowledge, Liberation, Trickery) lord of fate, freedom, and paradox
Ydajisk the Mother of Tongues (Chaos, Knowledge, Rune, Trickery) lord of language evolution, lost words, and slang