Pathfinder Player Companion: Wilderness Origins

Anyone else hoping for Cha based shifters with those fey and dragon archetypes?

I would love Cha based shifters for the fey and dragon archetypes. But the realist in me has doubts that I will be so lucky.

I'm still pretty leery of Shifter stuff...but I'm hoping new options will give it some BANG.

I am leery about the shifter as well, it still feels like an unfinished product. But 1e is coming to an end and this is the last class of the old system, so it needs love a lot more then most of the other ones do.

Any word about what classes will be getting archetypes for Vine Leshies? I've got a vine leshy boon that I'm starting to think about planning for.

A dragon shifter? I'm intersted.

OH.MY. Christmas is in JANUARY this year! So looking forward to this.
So eager to see what this does for the Shifter.

Any word about what classes will be getting archetypes for Vine Leshies? I've got a vine leshy boon that I'm starting to think about planning for.

I can’t talk about what I wrote for the moment, but once the book’s out I’ll happily give you the sales pitch!

Skarlit Begonia wrote:

Any word about what classes will be getting archetypes for Vine Leshies? I've got a vine leshy boon that I'm starting to think about planning for.

I can’t talk about what I wrote for the moment, but once the book’s out I’ll happily give you the sales pitch!

Woo!

Speaking of the Shifter, the class could use a lot more love in the feat department.

Speaking of the Shifter, the class could use a lot more love in the feat department.

I wouldn't expect too much.

Speaking of the Shifter, the class could use a lot more love in the feat department.

I agree. I do hpp[e that Paizo does well by this class.

It would have been nice to see some good Shifter feats, though I am not expecting any in this book or in anything else, but you never know:)

I do know! Shifters are definitely seeing some love in the feat department.

Yay! Moar shifter luv!!!

Yeah, more Shifter love.

I do know! Shifters are definitely seeing some love in the feat department.

Hooray

Well we know that the Shifter, Spiritualist, Summoner, and Witch will get some love but I wonder what other classes?

Hopefully more options for the Bloodrager, Kineticist, Monk, Oracle, Psychic, Sorcerer, and/or Swashbuckler.

Hopefully there will be more dragon and fey themed options other then the Shifter ones. Have there been any giant themed class options for Pathfinder?

Ooh, cool, Shifter feats as well! Being able to augment your favorite form sounds nice.

Dragon and fey archetypes for the class are definitely my top interests, though. Options that Druid doesn’t do very well.

Any more wood kineticist options?

Shifter feats! YES!

Oh, I too would like more wood element options for Kineticists. Favorite element!

Especially if those options were positive energy base though I would love one that lets them control, create, or summon plant creatures.

This will be great for the new vine leshy boon that I have and plan to spec as a leshy warden (druid) ... can hardly wait until it comes out! I'll make sure not to play it past first level until then so i can still use this lovely sounding source!

I got a notification that the order was being prepped for shipment. I hope it ships soon and I get my pdf :)

I am also pending. I hope it ships soon as well.

Well whenever someone gets it, I'd like to see some of the rules for this...

Very excited. About how long does it take items to ship and the pdf to be downloadable?

Very excited. About how long does it take items to ship and the pdf to be downloadable?

The email I received told me to expect the shipment to ship/to expect the pdf within ”2 to 13 business days”.

When we get the books, details will start to manifest.
until then, we wait.

Should be seeing some info by Tuesday or Wednesday.

That is the hope.

I have this shifter (were tiger) that I use in PFS. I am wondering about waiting to see what this book comes up with before I take him on another adventure. :)

I have this shifter (were tiger) that I use in PFS. I am wondering about waiting to see what this book comes up with before I take him on another adventure. :)

Without making any promises, we're trying really hard to stay ahead of the ball on this one. We anticipate the review team having notes on this to us in the very near future and I've already done the initial org play review, so hopefully you'll have a much smaller wait between having the book in your hands and having the additional resources for it posted than has been true for some previous entries.

So anyone get any notifications yet?

Jinath wrote:

I have this shifter (were tiger) that I use in PFS. I am wondering about waiting to see what this book comes up with before I take him on another adventure. :)

Without making any promises, we're trying really hard to stay ahead of the ball on this one. We anticipate the review team having notes on this to us in the very near future and I've already done the initial org play review, so hopefully you'll have a much smaller wait between having the book in your hands and having the additional resources for it posted than has been true for some previous entries.

That is wonderful news! Thanks so much!

So anyone get any notifications yet?

Not I said the little red hen.

Still 'Pending', so no.

Unfortunately.

I will be downloading it as soon as I am able to, once notification has been received.

I think the orders containing this product must be relatively late in the shipping queue. There are already people spoiling this month's adventure path volume.

I've got my PDF, but compared to all of the insanity of an end of AP volume, and one featuring full stats for multiple Runelords, as well as detailing what the aftermath of their return might entail, well, this one is almost an afterthought. Someone will get around to it, surely, but it may be a day or two.

Would you change your mind if I told you that made me sad? No? Well I tried.

Well base Shifter continues to get the short end of the stick. one of the best things they get actually buffs Druids more than then, and the archetypes range from barely passable to interesting in concept but so flawed in execution it would be suicidal to play them. I am upset because shifter is one of my favorite classes in concept yet it feels the designers often focus their energy elsewhere and leave the class sitting with a few passable archetypes and sit bottom wrung of all the classes. which is the worst crime in their case. wasted potential.

there are other things in the book i like, but when you start poorly, it doesn't exactly help but mentioning it first. =c

So..no rule stuff then?

Well they got animal aspect options, some archetypes and some new feats. No new rule changes from what I have seen. Still the shifter is not the only class. There are some neat additions to gathlain,ghorian, and vine leshy. Some potentially ridiculous options and some formidable ones as well. One of the metamagics added can make damaging spells also able to debuff targets. There is a fissure spell for druids that can make a 40ft deep rift, and an Oracle curse that curses the area around you for 300ft, like curse terrain lesser. It's a mix of good and bad. It is just a shame shifter didn't get much in the way of improvements. Still, there are a few more books before 2nd edition rolls in. I am looking forward to their offerings.

What are the new animal options?
How does the dragon shifter look compared to other recent archetypes?
What's the thing that's a bigger buff for druids?

Well that is disappointing to hear about the Shifter but I am not surprised. It is too bad the class didn't come out in an earlier book.

Well that is disappointing to hear about the Shifter but I am not surprised. It is too bad the class didn't come out in an earlier book.

Ditto.......

what are some of the new animal aspects??

Downloading now.

I just got something shiny in my email :)