In space, no one can hear you salivate over a new box of awesome pawns...
I can't wait to get my hand on it.
Hey look. Sneak peek at spooky monsters in space. What ever that thing is on the side of the box, keep it the hell away from me.
Hey look. Sneak peek at spooky monsters in space. What ever that thing is on the side of the box, keep it the hell away from me.
I didn't notice that thing until you pointed it out.. Nightmare fuel..
Super excited to see pawns coming out so soon after the product!
And this is actually the second Starfinder pawn box.
The first one can be found here.
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I thought that first one wasn't a box but one of those thinner releases.
Yep, you are right, Samy.
The product David linked seems to be just like the Pawn collections for a Pathfinder AP and will probably have only the iconics and base creatures from the Starfinder Core Rulebook art and will have no bases included.
Maybe even a few from the first AP "Dead Suns", as that AP will probably use some creatures from there.
This here is an actual box like the Pathfinder Bestiary Boxes and should include some bases indicated by the similiar pricing.
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Does anyone know if this box will have assorted spaceships like the core set?
It's drawn from a book on creatures, so what reason would there possibly be for putting starships in this set?
It's drawn from a book on creatures, so what reason would there possibly be for putting starships in this set?
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I'm gonna guess/wish:
- A living spaceship
- An undead spaceship
- An automated construct spaceship, preferably clockwork
It's drawn from a book on creatures, so what reason would there possibly be for putting starships in this set?
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I'm gonna guess/wish:
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In the Bringing Out the Big Guns thread, we learned from the writer of Alien Archive about his very topic:
This is probably a conversation served better by another thread, but in the most teasing way possible, here's what you will see in Alien Archive: an alien that IS a starship, an alien that can turn into a starship, a sample starship for a familiar alien race, and a starship frame that you'd have to be a real jerk to use.
My guess is that the starship frame you would have to be a jerk to use is some sort of take on a space whale.
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It's drawn from a book on creatures, so what reason would there possibly be for putting starships in this set?
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I'm gonna guess/wish:
** spoiler omitted **In the Bringing Out the Big Guns thread, we learned from the writer of Alien Archive about his very topic:
This is probably a conversation served better by another thread, but in the most teasing way possible, here's what you will see in Alien Archive: an alien that IS a starship, an alien that can turn into a starship, a sample starship for a familiar alien race, and a starship frame that you'd have to be a real jerk to use.My guess is that the starship frame you would have to be a jerk to use is some sort of take on a space whale.
Wait, are we getting a transformer?
So if I want to be a real jerk of a GM, I need to wait a couple of months after August to give the party the "starship frame that you'd have to be a real jerk to use" as their initial ship, right?
Updated with final description and image. Set list to follow closer to release.
Hmm.. so there are 90 images in this pawn set and almost 160 images in the corresponding book. Can some of the missing images be found in the core rulebook pawn set?
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Hmm.. so there are 90 images in this pawn set and almost 160 images in the corresponding book. Can some of the missing images be found in the core rulebook pawn set?
No, Alien Archive has 160 pages, but over 80 creatures (with images).
There should be almost every creature (up to huge size, but not the gargantuan or colossal ones - planet-killing "novaspawn" are a good bet) in this pawn set.Huge ones (like the "Ksarik") will most probably be in it once, while small ones (like the "space goblins") will probably be in it multiple times.
It's drawn from a book on creatures, so what reason would there possibly be for putting starships in this set?
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I'm gonna guess/wish:
** spoiler omitted **In the Bringing Out the Big Guns thread, we learned from the writer of Alien Archive about his very topic:
This is probably a conversation served better by another thread, but in the most teasing way possible, here's what you will see in Alien Archive: an alien that IS a starship, an alien that can turn into a starship, a sample starship for a familiar alien race, and a starship frame that you'd have to be a real jerk to use.My guess is that the starship frame you would have to be a jerk to use is some sort of take on a space whale.
You mean like:
Hmm.. so there are 90 images in this pawn set and almost 160 images in the corresponding book. Can some of the missing images be found in the core rulebook pawn set?No, Alien Archive has 160 pages, but over 80 creatures (with images).
There should be almost every creature (up to huge size, but not the gargantuan or colossal ones - planet-killing "novaspawn" are a good bet) in this pawn set.
Huge ones (like the "Ksarik") will most probably be in it once, while small ones (like the "space goblins") will probably be in it multiple times.
It was stated in the alien archive discussion that almost every creature will get two illustrations.
I can see that the Space Goblin pawn says "Goblins, Space"....however, in my head it says "Goblins in Spaaaaace".
Unfortunately, I'm sure it's too late for them to correct this error. :)
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It was stated in the alien archive discussion that almost every creature will get two illustrations.Hmm.. so there are 90 images in this pawn set and almost 160 images in the corresponding book. Can some of the missing images be found in the core rulebook pawn set?No, Alien Archive has 160 pages, but over 80 creatures (with images).
There should be almost every creature (up to huge size, but not the gargantuan or colossal ones - planet-killing "novaspawn" are a good bet) in this pawn set.
Huge ones (like the "Ksarik") will most probably be in it once, while small ones (like the "space goblins") will probably be in it multiple times.
Thanks for the info, i didn´t see that. :-)
It will probably be a male and femal version each (or seven for some species)?! ;-)
Hey look. Sneak peek at spooky monsters in space. What ever that thing is on the side of the box, keep it the hell away from me.
Aww, is this an April Fools joke? That thing on the side of the box looks like some variety Barathu (or a Liavaran Dreamer?) which is basically the friendliest, most xeno-loving creature in the whole Golarion system
Why would the PDF be delayed a month?
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I wonder if this box contains enough Skittermander whelps?
There is no such thing as 'enough Skittermander whelps'.
Skittermanders are the ewoks of Starfinder.
Ewoks are the porgs of ... oh, wait.
And they can all be traced back to Tribbles.
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The set list has been added!
It's good to see that every creature gets at least 2 pawns and that creatures which are encountered in groups get up to six pawns.
Can anybody who knows provide an answer to how many creatures of one type the new "summon monster" spell can conjure?
I would guess up to four, as that's the number of pawns all elementals get, even if personally i'd like it to be one.
Thanks.
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Can anybody who knows provide an answer to how many creatures of one type the new "summon monster" spell can conjure?
I would guess up to four, as that's the number of pawns all elementals get, even if personally i'd like it to be one.
When you select summon creature as a spell known, you select four creatures you can summon for each spell level you can cast it at. For example, if you select it as a 3rd level spell known, you pick four creatures for when casting it as a 3rd level spell, four for when casting it a a 2nd level spell, and four for when casting it as a 1st level spell.
If the creature you select if from the same level summoning table as the spell level, you can summon one such creature when you cast it. So if I choose medium fire elemental as one of my creatures I can summon with a 3rd level summon creature spell, I can summon one medium fire elemental when I cast it.
If however, I select a creature from a lower-level summoning chart as one of my summonable creatures for 3rd level summon creature, I can summon three of them. So if instead of a medium fire elemental I choose a Small fire elemental, I would summon three.
I could even make one of my 3rd level spell choices one medium fire elemental, and another one three Small fire elementals.
However the default for what features you can summon is elementals, so if multiple spell casters can summon elementals are what you are most likely to need more than 3 of.
It's drawn from a book on creatures, so what reason would there possibly be for putting starships in this set?
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I'm gonna guess/wish:
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You forgot the spaceship that is actually a Devil in Disguise (tm).
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Just checking- will this pawn set have labels and numbers?
(I had to manually write numbers on all my Starfinder core pawns.)
Labels, yes; numbers, no. (And, like the Starfinder Core pawns, there is color-coding to differentiate multiple pawns that have the same art.)
Do a lot of you want numbers?
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Just checking- will this pawn set have labels and numbers?
(I had to manually write numbers on all my Starfinder core pawns.)
Labels, yes; numbers, no. (And, like the Starfinder Core pawns, there is color-coding to differentiate multiple pawns that have the same art.)
Do a lot of you want numbers?
It´s far easier to write "Skittermander 1", "Skittermander 2"... on the Initiative counter than to write "Skittermander Blue", Skittermander Yellow" and so on.
It´s a space issue.So yes, i´m more of a numbers guy, even if both numbers and colors would be the best of both worlds.
But if i would have to chose, it´s numbers.
Thank you for asking, Vic.
And thank you very much @Owen for explaining "Summon Monster". :-)
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The large water elemental looks "strange" ;-)
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Just checking- will this pawn set have labels and numbers?
(I had to manually write numbers on all my Starfinder core pawns.)
Labels, yes; numbers, no. (And, like the Starfinder Core pawns, there is color-coding to differentiate multiple pawns that have the same art.)
Do a lot of you want numbers?
Augh!
Yes, I really want numbers. I keep track of pawns by keeping them sorted by numbers. They go into binders, and I have files that index them by numbers. If I'm looking for a pawn of a given thing, I can search the files, and then I know both which set has it, and which number in the set it is. I turn to the page, and I've got it.
With the Starfinder Core set, I wrote in numbers in pen by hand, following the convention that used to be printed on pawns with (for instance) the Bestiary Boxes, where pawns that were copies got the same number.
Back in the day, Paizo put numbers on all of their pawns, as well as an indication as to what set it came from. I'm very sad that this seems to have gone away. I'm probably going to skip the Heroes & Villains set because of the missing labels and numbers. I wrote in by hand on the Starfinder Core set. I already have this set coming because of a subscription; I'm not sure what I'll do, as it's even more things to write in numbers on.
(Does this set at least have an indication that it's the Alien Archive pawns? Or is it only names? The names are the one label I don't need. In fact, there's probably even an argument for leaving them off.)
But *please* print all pawns with labels and numbers. It helps those of us who want to keep our pawns organized, and don't want to page through shelves of binders to find what we're looking for.
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Just checking- will this pawn set have labels and numbers?
(I had to manually write numbers on all my Starfinder core pawns.)
Labels, yes; numbers, no. (And, like the Starfinder Core pawns, there is color-coding to differentiate multiple pawns that have the same art.)
Do a lot of you want numbers?
Yes please!
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The large water elemental looks "strange" ;-)
Yes. I too see a Giant Hyena in the PDF where a water elemental should be....
Oh, sweet, a Tetrad Caravel. Its artwork never showed up in the Alien Archive. Glad we finally get to see what it looks like. Also, anyone know if we'll get a Sunrise Maiden pawn anytime soon?
So is there a particular reason that a large number of things included in the AP and Society weren't included in this or the Core Pawn Box? Off hand, no Space Goblin Bullies, no Pegasus, no Akata, no Gaargakl just to name a few. I guess there could be a Dead Suns collection coming later, but that doesn't help for the SFS scenarios.
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So is there a particular reason that a large number of things included in the AP and Society weren't included in this or the Core Pawn Box? Off hand, no Space Goblin Bullies, no Pegasus, no Akata, no Gaargakl just to name a few. I guess there could be a Dead Suns collection coming later, but that doesn't help for the SFS scenarios.
Presumably it's because the monsters you list arent in the CRB or the AA.
Early on in the line there's bound to be gaps. Hopefully we'll get a dead suns pawn set midway through 2018 and possibly a 'gap' set prior to that with odds and sods.
Iron God pawns can be helpful, obviously you won't find specific Starfinder creatures but there are a few decent stand ins. :-)