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Was the CR for the each of the Horsemen and Archdevils already revealed? I don't think so. If not, could someone be kind enough to share it with us?
Now, regarding the Horsemen only, were their illustrations updated? Is Charon's art just like the one in the cover or is it his skeleton-like appearance?
Thanks a lot!
Horsemen have a CR range of 27-30. They also have some nasty side effects if you kill one: All other Horsemen increase in CR by +1 (I don't think the exact specifics of stat changes for each one are spelled out, and another Daemon gets promoted to CR 27.
I would have to double check to see if the other llustrations are new, but they all seem to have the same design as previous iterations. However Charon fits closer to the original BotD illustration, and is a shrouded figure with that stylish hat from the old artwork.

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doc the grey wrote:Dude!?! Who's idea was the f~%$ing Lovelorn art!? Jesus that thing is awesome! Like a Kyton's housepet in a Hostel flick.Can you give us a brief description of what the Lovelorn looks like? For that matter, what kind of a creature is it?
Um amazing and horrifying if you dig videodrome like body horror and at CR 4 it makes it an easy throw for low level encounters. My only regret is that it can't be a familiar. It totally looks like something a follower of Zon-Kuthon would have.

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Rysky wrote:Okay, looking over the list there's 3 I saw that are super vague sounding but vague in the way that makes me super curious.
Urhag, super hag? Do we get super Changelings?
The Unrisen.... what is it? Failed resurrection undead? Anti-undead?
The Whisperer? .... what is it? We already have stats for the Mi-Go...
Edit: Well, the Mi-Go was in that story... but maybe something else was there with them...
** spoiler omitted **
P.S. Based on Daigle's interest and their point of origin, I assumed Rougarou are mostly found in Arcadia. Daigle is sort of the "overlord" for that continent, at least seems that way based on posts and such.
Really? From a cursory glance I thought The Whisperer was more like a primal Slender Man, filling a similar niche but in the depth of old primal woods.

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The Gold Sovereign wrote:** spoiler omitted **Was the CR for the each of the Horsemen and Archdevils already revealed? I don't think so. If not, could someone be kind enough to share it with us?
Now, regarding the Horsemen only, were their illustrations updated? Is Charon's art just like the one in the cover or is it his skeleton-like appearance?
Thanks a lot!
Thanks. Anyway to get exact CRs for Horsemen and especially Archdevils? I'm wondering how they sorted their relative power.

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Does the Quetzalcoatlus actually have hair? I would think feathers would be more likely.
Yes? The art sort of implies that they have protofeathers like most modern interpretations but with the inking style I could see someone reading it either way. It reminds me a lot of the art for the Quetzalcoatlus from Saurian, very cool. Sad though that it's ANIMAL COMPANION STATS START IT SMALL AND IT DOESN'T GET LARGE TILL 7TH! That combined with Hard to Train is a royal pain.

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J-Spee Lovecraft wrote:Does the titanoboa get anything to make it different from all the other big snakes? And are the megafauna more than just more rhinos and elephants?Nahh, just a really big constrictor. It has swallow whole if the giant anaconda doesn't get that and the thing is colossal.
They really made it colossal?
Seems like any creature that's even remotely big is considered colossal, these days.

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doc the grey wrote:J-Spee Lovecraft wrote:Does the titanoboa get anything to make it different from all the other big snakes? And are the megafauna more than just more rhinos and elephants?Nahh, just a really big constrictor. It has swallow whole if the giant anaconda doesn't get that and the thing is colossal.They really made it colossal?
Seems like any creature that's even remotely big is considered colossal, these days.
Well anything greater than 64' long or tall.
Edit: upon further research, it really should be gargantuan, but it's a fantasy RPG so hyperbole is acceptable to a certain extent.

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Sauce987654321 wrote:Well anything greater than 64' long or tall.doc the grey wrote:J-Spee Lovecraft wrote:Does the titanoboa get anything to make it different from all the other big snakes? And are the megafauna more than just more rhinos and elephants?Nahh, just a really big constrictor. It has swallow whole if the giant anaconda doesn't get that and the thing is colossal.They really made it colossal?
Seems like any creature that's even remotely big is considered colossal, these days.
It's under 50 ft. and if I recall it was estimated at 2,500 pounds, making this the smallest colossal creature that really should've been a high end huge size.

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Steven "Troll" O'Neal wrote:I have a mighty need to know more about the Naiad and Yaddithian! Please?I don't think much has been said about the Naiad...if anything at all. I am curious too.
Ask and ye shall receive.
The naiad is cool and basically gets a swim speed and some limited nymph like powers to offer favor to people and the ability to bond with a water feature which empowers them when they are near it.
The Yaddithian is a pretty balanced option that gets cold resistance, no breath, and the ability to use his own mind as a spellbook. Unfortunately, with his tapir nose and bright yellow coloring he kind of looks like a Smurfs villain or the anteater from the old Pink Panther cartoons. Not very mythos'y, not very scary or weird looking, very disappointed in that.

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Fourshadow wrote:Steven "Troll" O'Neal wrote:I have a mighty need to know more about the Naiad and Yaddithian! Please?I don't think much has been said about the Naiad...if anything at all. I am curious too.Ask and ye shall receive.
The naiad is cool and basically gets a swim speed and some limited nymph like powers to offer favor to people and the ability to bond with a water feature which empowers them when they are near it.
The Yaddithian is a pretty balanced option that gets cold resistance, no breath, and the ability to use his own mind as a spellbook. Unfortunately, with his tapir nose and bright yellow coloring he kind of looks like a Smurfs villain or the anteater from the old Pink Panther cartoons. Not very mythos'y, not very scary or weird looking, very disappointed in that.
I'm okay with this. I'm planning a mythos inspired starfinder campaign and was going to include them as an alien race.

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Fourshadow wrote:Steven "Troll" O'Neal wrote:I have a mighty need to know more about the Naiad and Yaddithian! Please?The Yaddithian is a pretty balanced option that gets cold resistance, no breath, and the ability to use his own mind as a spellbook. Unfortunately, with his tapir nose and bright yellow coloring he kind of looks like a Smurfs villain or the anteater from the old Pink Panther cartoons. Not very mythos'y, not very scary or weird looking, very disappointed in that.Mechanically it sounds amazing. Visually it sounds disappointing. I'll wait and see though. :)

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MMCJawa wrote:Thanks. Anyway to get exact CRs for Horsemen and especially Archdevils? I'm wondering how they sorted their relative power.The Gold Sovereign wrote:** spoiler omitted **Was the CR for the each of the Horsemen and Archdevils already revealed? I don't think so. If not, could someone be kind enough to share it with us?
Now, regarding the Horsemen only, were their illustrations updated? Is Charon's art just like the one in the cover or is it his skeleton-like appearance?
Thanks a lot!
This was actually my second attempt on that question. I'm sure we all already knew their CR goes from 27 to 30... u.u'
Well... Anyone could answer that? The exact CR for each of the demigods abovementioned?

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Plausible Pseudonym wrote:MMCJawa wrote:Thanks. Anyway to get exact CRs for Horsemen and especially Archdevils? I'm wondering how they sorted their relative power.The Gold Sovereign wrote:** spoiler omitted **Was the CR for the each of the Horsemen and Archdevils already revealed? I don't think so. If not, could someone be kind enough to share it with us?
Now, regarding the Horsemen only, were their illustrations updated? Is Charon's art just like the one in the cover or is it his skeleton-like appearance?
Thanks a lot!
This was actually my second attempt on that question. I'm sure we all already knew their CR goes from 27 to 30... u.u'
Well... Anyone could answer that? The exact CR for each of the demigods abovementioned?
Charon CR 30
Szuriel CR 28
Trelmarixian CR 27
Baalzebul CR 30
Barbatos CR 26
Belial CR 28
Dispater CR 27
Geryon 29
Mammon 28
Mephistopheles 30
Moloch 29

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Benchak the Nightstalker wrote:Charnel Gods are the living statues haunted by dead gods mentioned in an earlier product description. When a god dies, sometimes a fragment of their divine power takes root in a graven image of the deity. The process drives them insane, and they particularly hate people who used to worship them (both because such followers remind them of how far they've fallen, and because they need someone to blame for their death). You might recognize the example Charnel God (formerly "a demon lord of the hunt") as a neat reference to a dead deity from the Golarion campaign setting.Neat reference to a dead deity, hum?
I hope we are not playing with Desna's heart... Are we?
Mordant spire is what came to my mind :P

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So here is a question....what distinguishes the Rougarou (fluff wise) from any shifter ???
I mean are they tied to lycanthropic heritage as well ? or it something completely different ?
How many times does the "stop using the word 'fluff', it's derogatory" post needs to be repeated?

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doc the grey wrote:J-Spee Lovecraft wrote:Does the titanoboa get anything to make it different from all the other big snakes? And are the megafauna more than just more rhinos and elephants?Nahh, just a really big constrictor. It has swallow whole if the giant anaconda doesn't get that and the thing is colossal.They really made it colossal?
Seems like any creature that's even remotely big is considered colossal, these days.
We fudge sizes now and then for prehistoric crittters, such as the titanoboa and the giganotosaurus, in order to fit gaps in existing animal sizes and CRs.

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So, have the Yaddithians been confirmed as playable aberrations? Just curious, and I didn't see any confirmation anywhere
I'll go ahead and confirm that now. Of course, "playable" is one word for it - when you're older than the campaign setting's civilizations, your mindset may be a little unusual. (The description notes that the Yaddithian presented, a 9th-level wizard, is essentially the baseline for the survivors of the eons-old race.)

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doc the grey wrote:J-Spee Lovecraft wrote:Does the titanoboa get anything to make it different from all the other big snakes? And are the megafauna more than just more rhinos and elephants?Nahh, just a really big constrictor. It has swallow whole if the giant anaconda doesn't get that and the thing is colossal.They really made it colossal?
Seems like any creature that's even remotely big is considered colossal, these days.
Pathfinder gorillas are 8 feet tall. The largest individual of the largest species of extant gorilla was 6'6". The Adventure Fantasy business demands you scale everything up a bit.

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nighttree wrote:How many times does the "stop using the word 'fluff', it's derogatory" post needs to be repeated?So here is a question....what distinguishes the Rougarou (fluff wise) from any shifter ???
I mean are they tied to lycanthropic heritage as well ? or it something completely different ?
Possibly until it starts being derogatory, then once more?

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14 sided die wrote:So, have the Yaddithians been confirmed as playable aberrations? Just curious, and I didn't see any confirmation anywhereI'll go ahead and confirm that now. Of course, "playable" is one word for it - when you're older than the campaign setting's civilizations, your mindset may be a little unusual. (The description notes that the Yaddithian presented, a 9th-level wizard, is essentially the baseline for the survivors of the eons-old race.)
fair 'nuff, but still, 0HD aberration is a good thing in my books, I have.... ideas

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So, have the Yaddithians been confirmed as playable aberrations? Just curious, and I didn't see any confirmation anywhere
Short answer is "yes" they are playable and overall on par powerwise with something like the tiefling at best. They make really good mages with an Int & Con bump and Cosmic mind but they've got slow speed and their big ability beyond ageless isn't really useful to a non prep arcane caster.
I'd let someone run one if the game was right. It sure as hell isn't like a drow noble or munvari in terms of power curve.