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Rysky wrote:No, no, no, yes.Huh, wonder what the reason was for only adding new azata and not other celestials. What new azata are there specifically? Any high CR ones?
*shrugs*
Ones a servant of Desna that travels through dreams and has a psychic star knife.
The other one was blue.
They're middle CR I believe. The high CR one is a reprint from CotR.
Will loop back when I'm done.

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Feros wrote:oh wow, really?Rysky wrote:Thessalhydra... who thought this was f@%+ing necessary?!Well, it is a classic monster in the game...
*holding his first print edition of 1e Ad&d Monster Manual II from 1983 in his hands and turning to page 119*
Yep.
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Rysky wrote:Feros wrote:oh wow, really?Rysky wrote:Thessalhydra... who thought this was f@%+ing necessary?!Well, it is a classic monster in the game...*holding his first print edition of 1e Ad&d Monster Manual II from 1983 in his hands and turning to page 119*
Yep.
:)
Ah cool :3
So then! To reiterate my first question, who thought this was f@##ing necessary?!"

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Rysky wrote:No, no, no, yes.Huh, wonder what the reason was for only adding new azata and not other celestials. What new azata are there specifically? Any high CR ones?
It really boils down to a combo of "We had some azatas to reprint, including the CR 20 one which has NEVER appeared in a hardcover," and "I, James Jacobs, the one who decides what goes into Bestiary 6, likes azatas the best of the celestial races."

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... okay maybe it's just the angle but are the Wild Hunt Scout's nipples visible through her armor?
They appear to be very unfortunately placed seams created when molding the armour to fit (see the grieves on the legs to see more of these seams).

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Feros wrote:Rysky wrote:Feros wrote:oh wow, really?Rysky wrote:Thessalhydra... who thought this was f@%+ing necessary?!Well, it is a classic monster in the game...*holding his first print edition of 1e Ad&d Monster Manual II from 1983 in his hands and turning to page 119*
Yep.
:)
Ah cool :3
So then! To reiterate my first question, who thought this was f%*@ing necessary?!"
Apparently some dude named Gary from Wisconsin...

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Thessalhydra... who thought this was f*!#ing necessary?!
I did.
So necessary that I'm also the one who saw to its 3rd edition D&D reprint in the penultimate Age of Worms adventure. They've long been one of my favorite D&D monsters, dating back to their first appearance in 1st edition's Monster Manual 2.
And then the fact that "Stranger Things" name dropped them made me want to reprint them all the more.

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Feros wrote:Rysky wrote:Feros wrote:oh wow, really?Rysky wrote:Thessalhydra... who thought this was f@%+ing necessary?!Well, it is a classic monster in the game...*holding his first print edition of 1e Ad&d Monster Manual II from 1983 in his hands and turning to page 119*
Yep.
:)
Ah cool :3
So then! To reiterate my first question, who thought this was f&&$ing necessary?!"
And to head it off at the pass... I'm the one who thought every single monster in the book was f&&$ing necessary.

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Rysky wrote:And to head it off at the pass... I'm the one who thought every single monster in the book was f&&$ing necessary.Feros wrote:Rysky wrote:Feros wrote:oh wow, really?Rysky wrote:Thessalhydra... who thought this was f@%+ing necessary?!Well, it is a classic monster in the game...*holding his first print edition of 1e Ad&d Monster Manual II from 1983 in his hands and turning to page 119*
Yep.
:)
Ah cool :3
So then! To reiterate my first question, who thought this was f&&$ing necessary?!"
Oh, I'm sorry JJ, i meant who thougt it was necessary to make such a thing in the first place. I'm like, who do you hate that much????
Sorry if my posts came off as attacks, I like how over the top overkill it is ^w^

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Rysky wrote:And if you like the Whisperer, you should check out Algernon Blackwood's story "The Willows," which is one of my favorite stories of all time, and is the 100% primary inspiration for the Whisperer.Whisper.
Oh oh oh gonna have with that.
will do! I was also getting a Moon Bog vibe from em too.

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Love all the feedback so far, but I'd love it EVEN MORE if folks did reviews for the book. Traditional wisdom in the industry is that with each monster book published they're less and less "useful" or whatever, and one of my goals with Bestiary 6 was to try to show that there's essentially an endless stream of monster potentials to keep a line going forever.
So, if you do love the book, please drop a review about it. For that matter, if you hate the book, drop a review too; just make sure to explain (preferably in a non accusatory way) what disappointed you about the book so we can keep that in mind as a potential way to improve future books.

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Rysky wrote:Oh, I'm sorry JJ, i meant who thougt it was necessary to make such a thing in the first place. I'm like, who do you hate that much????Explain please. How is this thing so Nasty?
It's Gargantuan, has draconic body with a long neck ending in a lamprey mouth and has a bunch of snake heads coming off of that, and a crab claw as the tail.
Reminded me of the first time I saw the Tarrasque.

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Lemartes wrote:Rysky wrote:Oh, I'm sorry JJ, i meant who thougt it was necessary to make such a thing in the first place. I'm like, who do you hate that much????Explain please. How is this thing so Nasty?It's Gargantuan, has draconic body with a long neck ending in a lamprey mouth and has a bunch of snake heads coming off of that, and a crab claw as the tail.
Reminded me of the first time I saw the Tarrasque.
Which, incidentally, was ALSO introduced to the game in the old AD&D MMII.
Fun fact!

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Lemartes wrote:Rysky wrote:Oh, I'm sorry JJ, i meant who thougt it was necessary to make such a thing in the first place. I'm like, who do you hate that much????Explain please. How is this thing so Nasty?It's Gargantuan, has draconic body with a long neck ending in a lamprey mouth and has a bunch of snake heads coming off of that, and a crab claw as the tail.
Reminded me of the first time I saw the Tarrasque.
Oh I thought there was some lore on how it did horrible things or something. Like those blade feet weasles.
Thanks.

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Love all the feedback so far, but I'd love it EVEN MORE if folks did reviews for the book. Traditional wisdom in the industry is that with each monster book published they're less and less "useful" or whatever, and one of my goals with Bestiary 6 was to try to show that there's essentially an endless stream of monster potentials to keep a line going forever.
So, if you do love the book, please drop a review about it. For that matter, if you hate the book, drop a review too; just make sure to explain (preferably in a non accusatory way) what disappointed you about the book so we can keep that in mind as a potential way to improve future books.
Asking for honest customer feed back. Excellent. This is what I like to see as a customer.
When I get the book I will post a review. Which reminds me I think I owe Mark a review of Horror Adventures.
Uh...should probably do Horror Realms too which so far is amazing. Occult Adventures...
Anyways, it will probably be a month before I get this book though. :(

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So opinions based only on Special Abilities and Weapons, Baalzebul vs Mephistopheles, who takes the Crown?
Mephistopheles, by a few hairs. But what do you expect from the personification of Hell? :)

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Prince Setehrael wrote:So opinions based only on Special Abilities and Weapons, Baalzebul vs Mephistopheles, who takes the Crown?Mephistopheles, by a few hairs. But what do you expect from the personification of Hell? :)
These two are my favorite of the Archdevils, I love their lore and history. So I like to image, if Asmodeus was gone who would take the Throne of Hell.
And while I think that yeah the odds are in Mephistopheles' favor I also kinda rooting for Baalzebul as the Underdog.