Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Bestiary 6 (PFRPG)

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It's safe to assume that is not the final cover, correct?

Correct.

Announced for March! Cover and description are not final!

I love Pathfinder, and i wish that paizo expand the rules, i dont want more feats, i rather an escalating leveling to 30th lvl, balance on the rules, Prestige Classes more like mythic tiers instead of xp dependants, and paragon racial options.

its too easy to do such a thing, i did with my house rules and was only I working on it. why paizians can´t offer something alike?

Looking forward to it!!! Love all the Bestiaries that have come out so far, and know that this'll be a great addition at my gaming table.

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This is a bit of a surprise. I wonder why this wasn't announced at either PaizoCon or GenCon. We already knew the spring 2017 book (Encounter Codex) and the summer and fall 2017 books (Starfinder).

I wonder if this was planned for fall 2017 but was moved up for a Starfinder monster book. Or added to the schedule after the reaction to Encounter Codex...

Looks pretty cool, I like that we'll finally have a dogfolk race with an interesting mythological lineage, another fey player race seems interesting, and I wonder if the yaddithians will finally be an aberration for players to play...could certainly see them as humanoids or monstrous humanoids, though. Some Outer Planes dragons sound pretty cool, though I wonder if they'll stick to only having five for true dragons, instead of nine, and if there are only five, if there being a Heaven one mentioned means it will be the extremes plus neutral...Abyss, Boneyard, Elysium, Heaven, and Hell. I'd rather have all nine, but true dragons mean you have to have all those age categories...

The Green Man, Krampus, and the Wild Hunt all sound cool too, as do entothorpes. It'll be interesting to find out what else is in here...

I don't understand the Naiad Playable Race, doesn't that make the Undine kinda useless?

They mentioned that there was some stuff that would normally be announced at GenCon that didn't quite make it for one reason or another. This seems like it'd be one of those things.

I didn't even see the naiad PC race!

squees

!!!

I don't understand the Naiad Playable Race, doesn't that make the Undine kinda useless?

What do you mean "make"? I kid, I kid... But not all 0-HD creatures are actually good to hand out to PCs, so it might be stronger than most PC races. But there's plenty of design space for both, I imagine.

I don't understand the Naiad Playable Race, doesn't that make the Undine kinda useless?

It's a race, not a weapon upgrade.

Undine = Native Outsider
Naiad = Fey

I don't understand the Naiad Playable Race, doesn't that make the Undine kinda useless?

Undines are outsiders associated with the Elemental Plane, with a bonus to Wisdom. Naiads are fey, and I'm guessing that they will have a bonus to Charisma. ^_^

Now there are Oceanids, Nereids, Undine's, Rusalka's and Naiads, how much pretty water women does one need and want lol :-p

I don't understand the Naiad Playable Race, doesn't that make the Undine kinda useless?

Another approach to a shared concept (watery PC race) does not dictate that one will make the other obsolete. They can fulfill their own takes on the concept in unique and ultimately fulfilling ways.

Nightterror wrote:

I don't understand the Naiad Playable Race, doesn't that make the Undine kinda useless?

Undines are outsiders associated with the Elemental Plane, with a bonus to Wisdom. Naiads are fey, and I'm guessing that they will have a bonus to Charisma. ^_^

My money is that it'll be +Dex as well...

I don't understand the Naiad Playable Race, doesn't that make the Undine kinda useless?

No, because the undine have much more mechanical support.

My most wanted monster in this is Jubokko, the Vampire Tree.

Wow! New Bestiary already!

Now there are Oceanids, Nereids, Undine's, Rusalka's and Naiads, how much pretty water women does one need and want lol :-p

There are some pretty horrifying fey—what makes you think that the new race will be pretty?

Nightterror wrote:

Now there are Oceanids, Nereids, Undine's, Rusalka's and Naiads, how much pretty water women does one need and want lol :-p

There are some pretty horrifying fey—what makes you think that the new race will be pretty?

I suspect a lot of players, myself included, would be disappointed if the PC race wasn't pretty. ^_^

Now there are Oceanids, Nereids, Undine's, Rusalka's and Naiads, how much pretty water women does one need and want lol :-p

MOAR.

Nightterror wrote:

Now there are Oceanids, Nereids, Undine's, Rusalka's and Naiads, how much pretty water women does one need and want lol :-p

There are some pretty horrifying fey—what makes you think that the new race will be pretty?

Mainly because Naiads are traditionally portrayed as such

I would have prefered Asrai instead, never been a fan of Naiad's. But if they are ugly and horrifying instead, they will grow on me.

Pretty girls are fine and all (when you are a succubus) but too much of those are overkill if you ask me. I want more ugly and horrifying female monsters that aren't hags.

Nightterror wrote:

I don't understand the Naiad Playable Race, doesn't that make the Undine kinda useless?

What do you mean "make"? I kid, I kid... But not all 0-HD creatures are actually good to hand out to PCs, so it might be stronger than most PC races. But there's plenty of design space for both, I imagine.

We don't even know that Naiads will actually be at a power level that most DMs would allow to players. After all, Munavri (a clearly overpowered race comparable to Drow Nobles or Azlanti) were listed with them.

Then again, they might be at an acceptable power level. Monkey Goblins (also listed) are not too overpowered as a race.

I want more ugly and horrifying female monsters that aren't hags.

I don't disagree with this.

Pretty girls are fine and all (when you are a succubus) but too much of those are overkill if you ask me. I want more pretty lads.

FTFY.

HUMANOID female uglies, like the philippine Batibat for example or the melanesian female cannibal Abere.

Will include stats for all these:

Ancestral Spirits, Archdevils, Asura Ranas, Daemonic Harbingers, Demon Lords, Eldest, Elemental Lords, Empyreal Lords, Four Horsemen, Great Old Ones, Infernal Dukes, Iron Gods, Kyton Demagogues, Malebranche, Manasaputra Kumaras, Oni Daimyo, Orc cults, Primal Inevitables, Protean Lords, Psychopomp Ushers, Qlippoth Lords, Rakshasa Immortals, Sahkil Tormentors, and Whore Queens?

Even if only a few are covered I must admit a never expect to see something like this even if in the past asked for it, the last Chapter for Mythic Realms is one of my favorites, so this is certainly a pleasant announcement even considering the change in previous schedules for Beastiaries

Well I don't mind more pretty male creatures at all, there aren't too much of those around. Katsura Otoko (the most pretty male mythology fey) still needs to be covered.

??? This early? Not that I mind!

Only 200 monsters? I hope there aren't many re-entries from AP's and inner sea bestiary then, more new monsters. The only monster from ISB I don't really mind having twice is the whirlmaw.

I'm happy to see Krampus!

Rougarou is nice too, but the other things I read there i'm not a fan of, but that also happend with Bestiary 5, and it turned out they saved the best monsters for last anyway. Can't wait for the cover of this.

There's more than 200 monsters, but not nearly 300 in this one. The reason's pretty simple—this Bestiary has more two-page monsters than previous ones, either because I wanted the book to have more room exploring unusual monsters or, in part, because we're giving the higher CR monsters more room to fit on their pages.

I don't understand the Naiad Playable Race, doesn't that make the Undine kinda useless?

Not at all. The undine is very focused on elemental stuff and is an outsider. The naiad is not an outsider, and focuses more on the fey side of nature rathrer than the elemental side of it.

Needless to say, the naiaid will have different stats than the undine.

Also I hope the Empyreal Lords have better stats than before.

Emphatically seconded. Anybody else with me?

On a related note, will Arshea be in the book?

QuidEst wrote:

Nightterror wrote:

I don't understand the Naiad Playable Race, doesn't that make the Undine kinda useless?

What do you mean "make"? I kid, I kid... But not all 0-HD creatures are actually good to hand out to PCs, so it might be stronger than most PC races. But there's plenty of design space for both, I imagine.

We don't even know that Naiads will actually be at a power level that most DMs would allow to players. After all, Munavri (a clearly overpowered race comparable to Drow Nobles or Azlanti) were listed with them.

Then again, they might be at an acceptable power level. Monkey Goblins (also listed) are not too overpowered as a race.

The zero HD races in this book will cover a range of power level—taking two that are already out there, you can expect that the monkey goblin will probably represent the lower end of that scale and the munavri the uppper end.

What does and doesn't work for any one game can and does and SHOULD vary. In some games, aasimars are too powerful. In some games, drow are not powerful. We will continue to provide a range of options so that GMs can pick and choose and adjust as needed for their games.

I love Pathfinder, and i wish that paizo expand the rules, i dont want more feats, i rather an escalating leveling to 30th lvl, balance on the rules, Prestige Classes more like mythic tiers instead of xp dependants, and paragon racial options.

its too easy to do such a thing, i did with my house rules and was only I working on it. why paizians can´t offer something alike?

It's not something specific to their game world. They could do it, but their own characters can't make use of the rules. Much like you can make any race you want to, or half-race, but you'll never ever see them exist in Golarion because those were the rules they set for themselves. It's why there's sometimes disclaimers/sidebars on their books that give you "suggested options" for outside their main books.

Oh forgot to wonder if we will get some sahkil and celestials as well.

Really curious to what the new fey are going to be like too.

Also know what to hint at for an anniversary present to my girlfriend now.

Juda de Kerioth wrote:

I love Pathfinder, and i wish that paizo expand the rules, i dont want more feats, i rather an escalating leveling to 30th lvl, balance on the rules, Prestige Classes more like mythic tiers instead of xp dependants, and paragon racial options.

its too easy to do such a thing, i did with my house rules and was only I working on it. why paizians can´t offer something alike?

It's not something specific to their game world. They could do it, but their own characters can't make use of the rules. Much like you can make any race you want to, or half-race, but you'll never ever see them exist in Golarion because those were the rules they set for themselves. It's why there's sometimes disclaimers/sidebars on their books that give you "suggested options" for outside their main books.

This isn't the thread to get into the topic; let's stay focused on Bestiary 6, please.

If it's not too late, I'd plug for a upper-med CR (9-11) humanoid aquatic undead. WotC had the Drowned, Tome of Horrors had the Brykolakalakakakas, I'd love to see something new here. Lacedons just don't cut at later levels :)

Did not expect this so soon...but thank you very much! Absolutely love 5 still (some pathetic art for the choral angel and muse, but love their concepts!)

If it's not too late, I'd plug for a upper-med CR (9-11) humanoid aquatic undead. WotC had the Drowned, Tome of Horrors had the Brykolakalakakakas, I'd love to see something new here. Lacedons just don't cut at later levels :)

All of the monsters are selected for Bestiary 6. In fact, I'm almost 1/4 the way through developing the book at this point already! WOO!!!!

The choices of what monsters to go into the book this time around were almost entirely my call, although I did have lots of help from folks here at Paizo AND have been keeping an eye on the various Bestiary request threads, so folks will absolutely see some relatively often-requested critters in here for sure.

Gorbacz wrote:

If it's not too late, I'd plug for a upper-med CR (9-11) humanoid aquatic undead. WotC had the Drowned, Tome of Horrors had the Brykolakalakakakas, I'd love to see something new here. Lacedons just don't cut at later levels :)

AND have been keeping an eye on the various Bestiary request threads, so folks will absolutely see some relatively often-requested critters in here for sure.

So probably Kaiju, playable races (that weren't printed yet) and robots with lazors. Nice... :-p

But, but, but...oh nevermind. I have to go sell something so I have money for this...

I love books that have monster stats~ :)

Well I'm going to need to hold some money available for this. Also, the krampus is going to be a great seasonal horror to unleash upon people. Damn it paizo, I'm getting hyped and I know im going to have to wait for this...

This will be mine...

All these "legendary" and "end is nigh" creatures. I really hope this doesn't mean ushering in a new edition. WoTC did that crap twice.

I just want more Aeons and Inevitables...why is that so hard to get?

I hope we get inevitables that deal with time based shenanigans. Like the agent smiths of the time wizards Neo. I believe baracheil is right though. We need more inevitables and aeons.

YAY!!! Dragons, Horsemen and Archdevils! :D

Truly a time of great tribulation!

Rougarou!!!!!!!!

SZURIEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, Rysky's all fired up. Who is Szuriel? I wish it was a Christmas release!!

Rougarou? I thought I developed a Garou race already. Geeze.

Rysky wrote:

Rougarou!!!!!!!!

SZURIEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, Rysky's all fired up. Who is Szuriel? I wish it was a Christmas release!!

You bet!

Szuriel is the Horseman of War. She's awesome!

WAIT. Rougarou as a playable race? I've read about some pretty horrifying legends about those things, lol. I'm going to assume that they're not going to have the racial ability "turn people who see them into more Rougarou".

That would be hilarious.

Gorbacz wrote:

If it's not too late, I'd plug for a upper-med CR (9-11) humanoid aquatic undead. WotC had the Drowned, Tome of Horrors had the Brykolakalakakakas, I'd love to see something new here. Lacedons just don't cut at later levels :)

All of the monsters are selected for Bestiary 6. In fact, I'm almost 1/4 the way through developing the book at this point already! WOO!!!!

The choices of what monsters to go into the book this time around were almost entirely my call, although I did have lots of help from folks here at Paizo AND have been keeping an eye on the various Bestiary request threads, so folks will absolutely see some relatively often-requested critters in here for sure.

Good to hear that we are getting some cool and interesting creatures and beasties to ruin people's day, or improve their lives greatly. Of course fighting arch Devils or the four horsemen is going to be a sure fire way to have a unprepared pcs head beaten in. Still, if they pull it off, they have major bragging rights...until they show up again to get revenge.