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All in.
Ruyan.
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I hope Shattered Star, Second Darkness and one to two more of the older paths (I hope either Carrion Crown, Serpents Skull or Skulls and Shackles) go this way in a year or two. I love that you guys update them and add some new material. Great call!Don´t hold your breath for other updates. James said as much in another thread. IF this happens at all, my guess would be that it would be the remaining two 3.5 APs, nothing newer.
EDIT: ninja´d by Gorbacz (where in Poland are you anyway?)
Dont speculate too much. They did say that the chances of them doing a edition of other APs like the Rise of the Runelords anniversary edition were slim to none, leaning firmly to none.
And here we are.
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Will this get a new Player's Guide as well, like RotR did for the anniversary edition?
Unlikely, since I was able to fit all that information into the book itself. I suppose it's possible to release the character traits as a mini-pdf or something... but at this point there's no plans that I know of to do a new Player's Guide for it.
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Will this get a new Player's Guide as well, like RotR did for the anniversary edition?Unlikely, since I was able to fit all that information into the book itself. I suppose it's possible to release the character traits as a mini-pdf or something... but at this point there's no plans that I know of to do a new Player's Guide for it.
Cool.
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Will this get a new Player's Guide as well, like RotR did for the anniversary edition?Unlikely, since I was able to fit all that information into the book itself. I suppose it's possible to release the character traits as a mini-pdf or something... but at this point there's no plans that I know of to do a new Player's Guide for it.
Fair enough. Some new character traits would be nice, though, if it can be arranged. ^_^
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That cover art ... I really miss that picture of her in the green dress. She looks too much like a BBEG on this version of the new cover.
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That cover art ... I really miss that picture of her in the green dress. She looks too much like a BBEG on this version of the new cover.
You have a point there. If this is indeed the final cover art, she is pretty much clearly the BBEG. I like her green-dress image as well. OTOH, the beautiful (and, ahem, well-endowed) woman as ultimate evil is not exactly a new idea.
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It's been 8 years. I think the statute of limitations is over on that particular spoiler.
I thought
Best AP ever!
Defiler82, can you (or anyone else) explain why this AP is so great? What sells me on it?
As a background, I loved Runelords for the classic feel, and I loved the start of Giantslayer (the town investigation and defense) but not the hack & slash of later modules. I played a ton of PFS modules and didn't like a bunch of them, but some of the more roleplay-heavy modules were fun (such as Murder on the Throaty Mermaid, and School of Spirits). Why would someone like me want to buy this book? What is the general gist (with no or only light spoilers) of the story, and setting? Why is it fun?
Aaand pre-ordered - now if you'll excuse me, I'll just be here waiting patiently for September to rock around.
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Precisely my point!
... Okay, this many spoilers is starting to get a bit ridiculous! :)
On the other hand, a large number of potential new players probably have arrived on the boards due to the Humble Bundle offer, and yet others may have avoided the original version of this particular AP simply because it was 3.5. Therefore it might still make sense to keep certain plot points secret.
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The havero will most likely get updated!
... I wonder if the optional havero points (from a certain - probably slightly infamous - thread on the boards here) will be included this time? :D
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Fair enough. Some new character traits would be nice, though, if it can be arranged. ^_^Will this get a new Player's Guide as well, like RotR did for the anniversary edition?Unlikely, since I was able to fit all that information into the book itself. I suppose it's possible to release the character traits as a mini-pdf or something... but at this point there's no plans that I know of to do a new Player's Guide for it.
Not really necessary though; they've been tinkered with and adjusted a little to make them work more like modern traits, but adding more? The original options covered the necessities quite well I felt. No need for more. I focused on the additions to the content elsewhere.
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That cover art ... I really miss that picture of her in the green dress. She looks too much like a BBEG on this version of the new cover.
She still owns that green dress, but she IS a BBEG so that's kinda the point... the image is NOT from her at the start of the campaign, but closer to the end.
And yeah, that does mean, to a certain extent, that the cover is something of a spoiler, but it's a necessary one so that players aren't going in completely blind.
There's certainly such a thing as keeping TOO many secrets from your players, and teasing them with certain plot elements is good to build excitement. I mean... the TITLE of the AP pretty much informs anyone that something bad is going on with the throne, so it's hardly a huge step in logic to realize that the person who SITS on the throne might be part of the problem.
But yeah... the fact that the queen is the BBEG of Curse of the Crimson Throne is not really meant to be a "shock" or "surprise" at all. The sooner the PCs catch on to that, in fact, the better. In fact, if the players assume she's bad at the start, they may well be put off and confused by the initial scene in which she appears; that first scene is more or less built to make her seem somewhat sympathetic, after all.
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'Surprise' BBEGs can be problematic anyway. The Iron Gods Players Guide points out that the Technic League serves as an antagonist - a character whose ambition is to become a Captain of the League is going to have a bad time.
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To be fair, they put Karzoug on the cover of the last one.
Not really necessary though; they've been tinkered with and adjusted a little to make them work more like modern traits, but adding more? The original options covered the necessities quite well I felt. No need for more. I focused on the additions to the content elsewhere.
This updating is what I was looking for. Thank you! ^_^
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Since most players seem more interested in their own character's powers and builds anyway, I'm not so sure story spoilers are nearly as much as a game killer as most GMs fear they are. I can certainly understand the fear that a player might be disappointed to learn too much about a game before hand, but that's never, to me, seemed to be something that would cause someone to not play a game. Indeed, knowing a little about an upcoming campaign's storyline in advance tends to make me MORE likely to want to play the game than not.
AKA: The fact that Ileosa's the BBEG isn't the secret you want your players invested in learning... it's WHYT she's the BBEG that's the secret you want them to be invested in learning, and having the players know from the start (even if their characters don't learn until a few sessions after the first one) that she's bad news can build anticipation much better than keeping them entirely in the dark.
Of course, every table is different, and if it's a concern, then by all means hide the cover of the book. You might want to avoid telling your players the title of the adventure path too, though. And hopefully they've not been paizo fans over the past decade and haven't learned via osmosis about one of the most popular and well-known villains we've ever published...
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I *WAS* planning to cancel my AP sub after Hell's Vengeance, but if I want this in print and PDF, I'm better off extending my sub a couple more months! (Between the AP sub discount and the free PDF!)
There is a note at the top of the page indicating that this volume will *NOT* be part of the AP subscription... though AP subscribers WILL get the free PDF if they pre-order. So just no AP sub discount.
I *WAS* planning to cancel my AP sub after Hell's Vengeance, but if I want this in print and PDF, I'm better off extending my sub a couple more months! (Between the AP sub discount and the free PDF!)There is a note at the top of the page indicating that this volume will *NOT* be part of the AP subscription... though AP subscribers WILL get the free PDF if they pre-order. So just no AP sub discount.
You still at least get the 15% discount from Pathfinder Advantage with an AP subscription.
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You still at least get the 15% discount from Pathfinder Advantage with an AP subscription.I *WAS* planning to cancel my AP sub after Hell's Vengeance, but if I want this in print and PDF, I'm better off extending my sub a couple more months! (Between the AP sub discount and the free PDF!)There is a note at the top of the page indicating that this volume will *NOT* be part of the AP subscription... though AP subscribers WILL get the free PDF if they pre-order. So just no AP sub discount.
Yep, went and checked my order confirmation to make sure :3
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You still at least get the 15% discount from Pathfinder Advantage with an AP subscription.I *WAS* planning to cancel my AP sub after Hell's Vengeance, but if I want this in print and PDF, I'm better off extending my sub a couple more months! (Between the AP sub discount and the free PDF!)There is a note at the top of the page indicating that this volume will *NOT* be part of the AP subscription... though AP subscribers WILL get the free PDF if they pre-order. So just no AP sub discount.
Exactly. The amount I save by keeping the 15% discount and getting the PDF for free by still being a subscriber is more than what I would spend on the next couple AP issues.
*cheers* *cries tears of joy* I'm SO HAPPY!!!!
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So what was all that about RotR being a one off? You know you're never going to get anyone believe this won't be the fate of all APS a decade later.
So when will Kingmalker get the treatment? ;)
Also, need to get! Awesome :)
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Since most players seem more interested in their own character's powers and builds anyway, I'm not so sure story spoilers are nearly as much as a game killer as most GMs fear they are.
I'd like to think that even players who are into builds and such care about the plot to some extend <_< Like, if the players are like "I don't care whether villain is zombie cyborg Reagan or evil lich" then it kinda sounds like you might as well just play without a plot or roleplaying at all and make the game into purely tactical combat game
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So what was all that about RotR being a one off? You know you're never going to get anyone believe this won't be the fate of all APS a decade later.
So when will Kingmalker get the treatment? ;)
Also, need to get! Awesome :)
Turns out we're allowed to change our minds.
Will the PDF be for sale too by the time the book is out in the market? 'Cause I want them both!