Pathfinder Adventure Path: Curse of the Crimson Throne (PFRPG)

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A Campaign Fit For a Queen

The kings and queens of Korvosa have long ruled under the shadow of the Curse of the Crimson Throne—an infamous superstition claiming that no monarch of the city of Korvosa shall ever die of old age or produce an heir. Whether or not there is any truth to the legend of the curse, Korvosa's current king is but the latest victim to succumb to this foul legacy. Now, the metropolis teeters on the edge of anarchy, and it falls to a band of new heroes to save Korvosa from the greatest threat it has ever known! This hardcover compilation updates the fan-favorite campaign for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, including new and revised content and nearly 500 pages packed with mayhem, excitement, and adventure!

This hardcover edition of Curse of the Crimson Throne contains:

  • All six chapters of the original Adventure Path, expanded and updated for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game.
  • An in-depth gazetteer of the city of Korvosa as it exists under the rule of its new queen.
  • An array of new rules options for characters, ranging from campaign traits to spells to magic items.
  • An expansive appendix with statistics, descriptions, backgrounds, and rules support for the 12 most important NPCs in the campaign.
  • A bestiary featuring nine monsters from the original Adventure Path making their debut under the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game rules.
  • Dozens of new illustrations, never-before-seen characters, location maps, extensive new encounter locations, and more!

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-890-8

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Frick it my review got deleted

5/5

I wrote fricking long review about great time I had with running the whole campaign(and post campaign) and then it got deleted by the fricking "too much backtracking" page dagnabbit

I'm not gonna write the entire thing again, so here is in short: This campaign has great recurring NPC cast(most of later APs have problem with introducing cool NPCs and then rest of books never mentioning them again), great themes, great villains, Kazavon's awesome hair, allows multiple approaches to different situations(such as infiltrating with sneaking or talking through places instead of just fighting through them. Kinda reminds me of Deux Ex computer games in a way), awesome locations, awesome post campaign potential and is one of my favourite APs ever.


Good value, but some reservations

4/5

Short Version: A smart buy but held back by structural issues.

It's hard to get better adventure value for your dollar than this or the Rise of the Runelords collected edition. If I were reviewing on that alone, this would be 5 stars and then some. But there's more to an adventure than that.

The AP's hook is quite good, but almost immediately discarded in favor of saving the city. This can be helped a good session 0, but still feels artificial.

Even looking at the new plot, many elements feel shoehorned in. People point to volumes 4 and 5 for this, but there are sections in 2 that exist only to kill time as the plot advances and an entire dungeon in 3 that is cool but can seem forced if the players don't kick in the door right away. Any of these alone would be fine, but each makes the next more obvious.

That being said, there's a lot of cool stuff going on here, it just takes at least a star's worth of work to stitch it together.


3.5 vs. Pathfinder comparison!

5/5

I´m gonna list the differences between the original AP#7s chapters and it´s adaption into the hardcover edition:

Inside front cover:
The "Korvosan Hierarchy" overview is not reprinted.
Part 1:
The illustration on page 6 is exchanged for a cartoony new one on page 12 of the HC.
Page 10 of AP#7 has a map where the 8 locations in Korvosa that are important for book 1 are marked and named. This map is reprinted on page 400 of the HC but that one shows ALL important locations of the campaign at once, marked with letters and numbers.
"Lamm´s Lambs" stats are upgraded to young human on page 18 of the HC.
"Yargin Balko" now has a full body illustration instead of an upper body one. "Hookshanks Gruller" gets a full body illustration. "Giggles" gets a fbi. "Gaedren Lamm" gets a fbi.
Part 2:
King Eodred Arabasti gets a head illu. "Imps and Dragons" gets an illustration. "Meet the mob" gets a "Amin Jalento" head illu and his battle stats.
Part 3:
The illustration of "Sabina Merrin" on page 25 is not reprinted (she gets a new one on page 455).
Part 4:
"Cressida Croft" gets a head illu (and fbi on page 443). The Queens gets a new veiled head illu (the old one is more mysterious). The "renegade guards" stats in "All the Worlds Meat" get new stats. "Verik Vancasterkin" is upgraded from fighter 3 to fighter 4.
Part 5:
The "Ambassadors Secret" gets a new head illu. The fbi of "Vencarlo Orisini" from page 34 is not reprinted. The fbi of "Devargo Barvasi" on page 37 is replaced with a new one that is very much less impressive. He is upgraded from rogue 4 to rogue 5. "Majenko" is changed from pseudodragon to house drake. The illustration on page 41 is replaced with a new one (page 57). Both are equally creepy.
Part 6:
The "Trinia Sabor" fbi from page 43 is not reprinted (she gets a new look on page 460, but the old one is flashier). She is upgraded from bard 4 to bard 5. "The Shingle Chase" gets a better illustration. Curiously it features the old flashier Trinia Sabor outfit instead of the new.
Part 7:
The Owlbear skeleton gets gorgeous art on page 59 of the HC. The cool illustration on page 52 is replaced by a cool new one on HC page 61.
Cabbagehead´s head illu is replaced by a fbi. The "Gaekhen" head illu is not reprinted. "Vreeg" gets a much better new fbi.
Concluding the adventure:
The famous "green dress Illeosa Arabasti" illustration from page 56 (on which the first miniature is based) is NOT reprinted!
The Blackjack illustration from page 57 is replaced by a much better one on HC page 67.
Appendixes:
The 4 page Harrow article is updated to a 14 page one!
The 8 page "people of the road" article about varisians is not reprinted.
The 6 page Pathfinder´s journal is not reprinted.
Bestiary:
The illustration of the "Dream Spider", the only creature that hasn´t been adapted to a Bestiary yet, is not reprinted from page 82 but it´s stats are.
Inside back cover:
The "Korvosas enemies" overview is not reprinted.

While the new edition HC is better overall and everything needed for playing the campaign is included, updated and streamlined, quite a few cool things are left out.
I´m glad i got the original AP #7 too.


Even better than the original

5/5

Read my full review at Of Dice and Pen.

It was perhaps inevitable that Curse of the Crimson Throne would one day also receive a similar treatment to Rise of the Runelords. There’s no special anniversary to celebrate this year, but does there really need to be? Much like its Runelords predecessor, the new hardcover compilation of Crimson Throne updates the adventure path to Pathfinder rules and also expands on the story where beneficial and streamlines in other areas. It also takes advantage of the most recent rules supplements, making use of newer monsters, classes, and feats where appropriate.

At nearly 500 pages in length, it is actually a substantially larger tome than the hardcover Runelords (a good 50 pages or so longer), and its extra length is certainly put to good use. Indeed, it manages to make one of the best adventure paths even better.


The Best Just Got Bester!

5/5

Ahoy hoy everyone!

Welcome to the officially official first review of Captain Yesterday's not so official reviews of everything and life... or is that too cumbersome... how about an acronym... The O.O.F.R.O.C.Y.N.S.O.R.O.E.A.L... that will have to do for now.

Now that I've milked how many words on that, let me say without a doubt this is one beautiful book, and hefty too! With upwards of 480 pages you really get your money's worth.

This might take awhile so I'll most likely come back and edit and update, so stay tuned!

The campaign traits - this is one of my favorite parts of the book, while there are only six traits, each one has two different options, they do an excellent job at both getting your party to really hate Gaedren Lamm, they also do an exceptional job at giving the player's a glimpse of Korvosa. So five stars!

Alright, gotta go for now! But I'll be back soon!


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Yay! This is still my favorite AP.


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I might actually play this again. My players who are about to finish Reign of Witer have been talking about playing vigilantes. We'll probably only have three players left, but they are thinking about adding some sidekicks. Might actually work out.


Zaister,

I think it would be cool to have vigilante PCs with the ultimate viligante already running around. :)


Wonder if they expanded the data on Vimanda? She felt underdeveloped in the third book.


Uhm she's a raskasha with class levels, Garrett. Not sure you need much more. Her brother perhaps, but not Vimanda.

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The Gnoll said underdeveloped, not underpowered :3

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Garrett the Gnoll wrote:
Wonder if they expanded the data on Vimanda? She felt underdeveloped in the third book.

There's a tiny bit more, but not much.


You really need to do something about that thing on your face, Rysky. ;)

Also isn't surprised there's only a tiny bit more.


Will this product be available via Amazon Canada like the Anniversary edition of Rise of the Runelords?

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Trevor Thome wrote:
Will this product be available via Amazon Canada like the Anniversary edition of Rise of the Runelords?

This product is not a paizo.com exclusive, and will be sent through our normal distribution channels. So, very likely it will show up on a website like Amazon Canada.


Great! Shipping to Canada sucks right now with our low dollar. Thanks for the response!


Oh man, I am late to this party! But I am so excited for this, even though I already played through it in 3.5, I will happily repurchase this to own it with PF rules!

I was hoping you guys would do another remaster after Rise of the Runelords! Maybe in 4 years, we will see a Second Darkness compilation :)


A Second Darkness Hardcover would be cool (would love it if the PC's interaction with the accidental herald Thais was expanded upon and the whole adventure made more challenging for higher levels) but I'm looking forward to this one as well.

I'm actually wondering if this book will have rules included in it to make encounters better suited for six PC's playing the Adventure Path instead of just four. Or, if Paizo's staff ever gets the time and would like to consider doing it, maybe a hardcover / pdf detailing how to make some of the adventure paths better suited for six PC's instead of four of them?

Or has anyone actually retooled these adventures for six adventurers (or at the very least written a fan errata for it)?

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Berselius wrote:

A Second Darkness Hardcover would be cool (would love it if the PC's interaction with the accidental herald Thais was expanded upon and the whole adventure made more challenging for higher levels) but I'm looking forward to this one as well.

I'm actually wondering if this book will have rules included in it to make encounters better suited for six PC's playing the Adventure Path instead of just four. Or, if Paizo's staff ever gets the time and would like to consider doing it, maybe a hardcover / pdf detailing how to make some of the adventure paths better suited for six PC's instead of four of them?

Or has anyone actually retooled these adventures for six adventurers (or at the very least written a fan errata for it)?

Like its initial run, and as with all of our APs, Curse will assume 4 players. That's the baseline, and the more often we deviate from the baseline, the more confusing it gets for everyone to adapt to their game. Kind of defeats the whole point of a baseline to deviate like that.

Feedback from folks who have adjusted the AP for fewer or more players here on the boards is the best we can offer, and in fact considering the fact that there's a lot more of you than us doing this, it's BETTER than we can offer.


Cool, hope this isn't the last hardcover for an adventure path. I'd love to see Second Darkness get a retooling / rewrite.

Just wondering though, will we get stats for Sorshen in this hardcover or at least more info on if the Runelord of Lust might indeed be slumbering beneath Castle Korvosa?

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Wolfgang Rolf wrote:

Agreed a Vigilante would make more sense.

What I am actually hoping for is more traits! I like the current traits very much, but I wish there were ones that lent themselves to more opportunistic and immoral characters.

Well, it's been a while since you asked this, and now that I'm copy fitting the introduction to the book... it looks like there's room for at least one new trait. Perhaps two! So, expect at least one that will indeed lend itself to more opportunistic or immoral characters!

Silver Crusade

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James Jacobs wrote:
Wolfgang Rolf wrote:

Agreed a Vigilante would make more sense.

What I am actually hoping for is more traits! I like the current traits very much, but I wish there were ones that lent themselves to more opportunistic and immoral characters.

Well, it's been a while since you asked this, and now that I'm copy fitting the introduction to the book... it looks like there's room for at least one new trait. Perhaps two! So, expect at least one that will indeed lend itself to more opportunistic or immoral characters!

Yay!

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Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Wolfgang Rolf wrote:

Agreed a Vigilante would make more sense.

What I am actually hoping for is more traits! I like the current traits very much, but I wish there were ones that lent themselves to more opportunistic and immoral characters.

Well, it's been a while since you asked this, and now that I'm copy fitting the introduction to the book... it looks like there's room for at least one new trait. Perhaps two! So, expect at least one that will indeed lend itself to more opportunistic or immoral characters!
Yay!

I may have spoken too soon... I might have to cut it after all if the "Book References" sidebar is too big.

Bleh. This is why I should learn not to talk about things until they're done, I guess.


James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Wolfgang Rolf wrote:

Agreed a Vigilante would make more sense.

What I am actually hoping for is more traits! I like the current traits very much, but I wish there were ones that lent themselves to more opportunistic and immoral characters.

Well, it's been a while since you asked this, and now that I'm copy fitting the introduction to the book... it looks like there's room for at least one new trait. Perhaps two! So, expect at least one that will indeed lend itself to more opportunistic or immoral characters!
Yay!

I may have spoken too soon... I might have to cut it after all if the "Book References" sidebar is too big.

Bleh. This is why I should learn not to talk about things until they're done, I guess.

It is understandable, we all jump the ahead of ourselves atleast once,

but it does give the community something to talk about.

Scarab Sages

How likely is it that the Justicar prestige class might be updated to the Pathfinder rule set? Was the Spherewalker updated in the RotRL hardcover?

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KarlBob wrote:
How likely is it that the Justicar prestige class might be upgraded to the Pathfinder rule set? Was the Spherewalker upgraded in the RotRL hardcover?

The spherewalker wasn't upgraded in the RotRLAE, and it's unlikely that the justicar will be updated here, especially since it wasn't actually used in the AP (to the best of my knowledge).

Scarab Sages

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Kalindlara wrote:
The spherewalker wasn't upgraded in the RotRLAE, and it's unlikely that the justicar will be updated here, especially since it wasn't actually used in the AP (to the best of my knowledge).

Thanks. Good to know.

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James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Wolfgang Rolf wrote:

Agreed a Vigilante would make more sense.

What I am actually hoping for is more traits! I like the current traits very much, but I wish there were ones that lent themselves to more opportunistic and immoral characters.

Well, it's been a while since you asked this, and now that I'm copy fitting the introduction to the book... it looks like there's room for at least one new trait. Perhaps two! So, expect at least one that will indeed lend itself to more opportunistic or immoral characters!
Yay!

I may have spoken too soon... I might have to cut it after all if the "Book References" sidebar is too big.

Bleh. This is why I should learn not to talk about things until they're done, I guess.

Ish okay Directorsaur, no biggie.

*offers hugs*


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KarlBob wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
The spherewalker wasn't upgraded in the RotRLAE, and it's unlikely that the justicar will be updated here, especially since it wasn't actually used in the AP (to the best of my knowledge).
Thanks. Good to know.

Both of these prestige classes had nothing at all to the with the adventure path in whose volumes they were published, they were just part of the deity articles that were part of these volumes. If Paizo had intended to update them, I guess Inner Sea Gods would have been the place to find them, but it seems Paizo has no interest in bringing these prestige classes to the Pathfinder RPG. The is probably true for the chevalier from Pathfinder Adventure Path #14.


Oh, I can't wait for a few months down the line. So excited! ^_^


My group is one session into this AP, so I'm definitely looking forward to getting the PF updated version...
(As well as seeing what other related goodies get released around it. This is one where I have so been wishing for pawns and/or more released minis)

Dark Archive

James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Wolfgang Rolf wrote:

Agreed a Vigilante would make more sense.

What I am actually hoping for is more traits! I like the current traits very much, but I wish there were ones that lent themselves to more opportunistic and immoral characters.

Well, it's been a while since you asked this, and now that I'm copy fitting the introduction to the book... it looks like there's room for at least one new trait. Perhaps two! So, expect at least one that will indeed lend itself to more opportunistic or immoral characters!
Yay!

I may have spoken too soon... I might have to cut it after all if the "Book References" sidebar is too big.

Bleh. This is why I should learn not to talk about things until they're done, I guess.

No biggie.

I would be very interested in a pawn set and a few flipmats (maybe one for every two chapters with key locations in like Castle Korvosa and Scarwall?)
Are any support products planned for this year?
Thank you for updating this great campaign! :-)


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I found something interesting. I went to the Amazon Pre-order page

CotCT Preorder page on Amazon as of 6/21/2016

And found the following information

Quote:


About the Author

James A. Jacobs (San Francisco, CA) is chief hydrogeologist at Environmental Bio-Systems, Inc., has more than 20 years of environmental geology experience. He is the co-author, with Stephen Testa, of "Oil Spills and Gas Leaks".

Stephen M. Testa (Sacramento, CA) is executive officer of the California State Mining and Geology Board and past-president of both the American Institute of Professional Geologists and the American Geological Institute.

F. WESLEY SCHNEIDER has published countless gaming products for both "Pathfinder" and "Dungeons & Dragons", and is a former assistant editor of "Dragon" magazine. "Bloodbound" is his first novel.

Greg A. Vaughan is a freelance writer who has written several adventures for Dungeon Magazine.

I had no idea James Jacobs was hydrogeologist, much less the current chief hydrogeologist at Environmental bio-Systems, Inc.

Even more interesting is that Stephen M. Testa is the co-author.

Is this some mistake of Amazons, or are there many parts of Mr. Jacob's life that I had no idea about (well, granted, there ARE many parts of Mr. Jacobs life I have no idea about nor should I have an inkling of, but the portions above sort of are things I'd have thought I'd have realized...but perhaps I did not).

Silver Crusade

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Hmm, good questions!

You should go post in his thread.

Grand Lodge

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Fairly certain that Amazon got it wrong.

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GreyWolfLord wrote:

I found something interesting. I went to the Amazon Pre-order page

CotCT Preorder page on Amazon as of 6/21/2016

And found the following information

Quote:


About the Author

James A. Jacobs (San Francisco, CA) is chief hydrogeologist at Environmental Bio-Systems, Inc., has more than 20 years of environmental geology experience. He is the co-author, with Stephen Testa, of "Oil Spills and Gas Leaks".

Stephen M. Testa (Sacramento, CA) is executive officer of the California State Mining and Geology Board and past-president of both the American Institute of Professional Geologists and the American Geological Institute.

F. WESLEY SCHNEIDER has published countless gaming products for both "Pathfinder" and "Dungeons & Dragons", and is a former assistant editor of "Dragon" magazine. "Bloodbound" is his first novel.

Greg A. Vaughan is a freelance writer who has written several adventures for Dungeon Magazine.

I had no idea James Jacobs was hydrogeologist, much less the current chief hydrogeologist at Environmental bio-Systems, Inc.

Even more interesting is that Stephen M. Testa is the co-author.

Is this some mistake of Amazons, or are there many parts of Mr. Jacob's life that I had no idea about (well, granted, there ARE many parts of Mr. Jacobs life I have no idea about nor should I have an inkling of, but the portions above sort of are things I'd have thought I'd have realized...but perhaps I did not).

Weird. That's a different James Jacobs, and I'm not sure who "Stephen M. Testa" is at all. Looks like Amazon's drunk again. AKA: It's an error on Amazon's part.


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GreyWolfLord wrote:
I had no idea James Jacobs was hydrogeologist, much less the current chief hydrogeologist at Environmental bio-Systems, Inc.

No civilization in history has ever considered chief Hydrological Engineer a calling.

...

Yes, yes the Cappadocians, fine.

Dark Archive

James Jacobs wrote:
GreyWolfLord wrote:

I found something interesting. I went to the Amazon Pre-order page

CotCT Preorder page on Amazon as of 6/21/2016

And found the following information

Quote:


About the Author

James A. Jacobs (San Francisco, CA) is chief hydrogeologist at Environmental Bio-Systems, Inc., has more than 20 years of environmental geology experience. He is the co-author, with Stephen Testa, of "Oil Spills and Gas Leaks".

Stephen M. Testa (Sacramento, CA) is executive officer of the California State Mining and Geology Board and past-president of both the American Institute of Professional Geologists and the American Geological Institute.

F. WESLEY SCHNEIDER has published countless gaming products for both "Pathfinder" and "Dungeons & Dragons", and is a former assistant editor of "Dragon" magazine. "Bloodbound" is his first novel.

Greg A. Vaughan is a freelance writer who has written several adventures for Dungeon Magazine.

I had no idea James Jacobs was hydrogeologist, much less the current chief hydrogeologist at Environmental bio-Systems, Inc.

Even more interesting is that Stephen M. Testa is the co-author.

Is this some mistake of Amazons, or are there many parts of Mr. Jacob's life that I had no idea about (well, granted, there ARE many parts of Mr. Jacobs life I have no idea about nor should I have an inkling of, but the portions above sort of are things I'd have thought I'd have realized...but perhaps I did not).

Weird. That's a different James Jacobs, and I'm not sure who "Stephen M. Testa" is at all. Looks like Amazon's drunk again. AKA: It's an error on Amazon's part.

Looks like we finally found out what your evil twin is up to. ;-)

And he and his best friend Steve wrote a book about incontinence and flatulance it seems - "of oil spills and gas leaks". :-D


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James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Wolfgang Rolf wrote:

Agreed a Vigilante would make more sense.

What I am actually hoping for is more traits! I like the current traits very much, but I wish there were ones that lent themselves to more opportunistic and immoral characters.

Well, it's been a while since you asked this, and now that I'm copy fitting the introduction to the book... it looks like there's room for at least one new trait. Perhaps two! So, expect at least one that will indeed lend itself to more opportunistic or immoral characters!
Yay!

I may have spoken too soon... I might have to cut it after all if the "Book References" sidebar is too big.

Bleh. This is why I should learn not to talk about things until they're done, I guess.

FWIW, I really like the fact Paizo are willing to give us a 'behind the scenes' look at what goes on from time to time. Even if it does mean that occasionally things shift around.

I'd never have thought of "We had to drop a couple of traits because the Book Reference sidebar was too big" as a reason for the omission.

Liberty's Edge

Hydrogeology is cool!


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James Jacobs wrote:


Bleh. This is why I should learn not to talk about things until they're done, I guess.

While I understand the urge to avoid predicting anything that isn't set in stone, I just want to say that as a customer, the fact that you are willing to disclose tentative updates on development and then admit you made a mistake gives me a lot of confidence in you and your company. In fact, it gives me more confidence than if you were completely silent just to maintain the appearance of a perfect track record of predictions.

Sovereign Court

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I'm with Steve and 137ben on this one. ^_^


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Me too. :-)

Scarab Sages

I don't know if it has mentioned earlier, but roughly which book is the new Grey Maiden dungeon roughly in? I have run my CoCT group up to the beginning of Book 3 and was wondering if I should slow down until September/October to fit it in.

Otherwise can't wait!

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Well, as it turns out, the "Betrayed" trait did indeed make it in! WOO! So now all you thugs and criminals can play too!

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Falcore101 wrote:

I don't know if it has mentioned earlier, but roughly which book is the new Grey Maiden dungeon roughly in? I have run my CoCT group up to the beginning of Book 3 and was wondering if I should slow down until September/October to fit it in.

Otherwise can't wait!

It's chapter 3 of book 4.

Scarab Sages

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Am I the only that loves Blood Pig then?!

I think Sredna is more my game.

Scarab Sages

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Bellona wrote:
CorvusMask wrote:

Just kinda realized that besides that I'd like a player's guide for handout purposes, it would really be nice to have new campaign traits because old campaign traits are essentially five different possible backgrounds .-. I know APs are designed for 4, but I prefer to have 6 players in case one or two player can't make it to session, so would be nice to have 6 different possible backgrounds from traits.

You might be interested to know that the Varisia sourcebook (Player Companion line) has two new campaign traits for CotCT, one of which is related to Lamm like the five original ones in the CotCT player's guide. With that one you would indeed have six "background" campaign traits.

Incidentally, the Varisia sourcebook also has two new campaign traits for each of the RotR, SD, and JR APs, plus a brief run-down of the seven campaign traits which were introduced in full in the Shattered Star player's guide.

Speaking of the Varisia sourcebook, is there any chance that the two-page map spread can be combined into a single page, like the center sections of Bastards of Golarion and People of the Sand? The way the Varisia pdf is currently laid out, I couldn't make my Acrobat reader show both pages of the map at once.


logic_poet wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:
Am I the only that loves Blood Pig then?!
I think Sredna is more my game.

Bah. Sredna is more for people that like golf or something equally boring.


James Jacobs wrote:
Bellona wrote:
That cover art ... I really miss that picture of her in the green dress. She looks too much like a BBEG on this version of the new cover.

She still owns that green dress, but she IS a BBEG so that's kinda the point... the image is NOT from her at the start of the campaign, but closer to the end.

And yeah, that does mean, to a certain extent, that the cover is something of a spoiler, but it's a necessary one so that players aren't going in completely blind.

There's certainly such a thing as keeping TOO many secrets from your players, and teasing them with certain plot elements is good to build excitement. I mean... the TITLE of the AP pretty much informs anyone that something bad is going on with the throne, so it's hardly a huge step in logic to realize that the person who SITS on the throne might be part of the problem.

But yeah... the fact that the queen is the BBEG of Curse of the Crimson Throne is not really meant to be a "shock" or "surprise" at all. The sooner the PCs catch on to that, in fact, the better. In fact, if the players assume she's bad at the start, they may well be put off and confused by the initial scene in which she appears; that first scene is more or less built to make her seem somewhat sympathetic, after all.

I don't WANT my players to know what they're getting into. The big "Reveals" are, IMHO, a huge part of the fun and suspense of being a player. So I intend to invest in a plain brown-paper-bag book cover (ala high school textbook style) and to type out basic traits and a "Welcome to Korvosa" guide as a player hand-out with excess information deleted. I like the players to find out the big Mysteries as they go along.

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Updated with final cover image and description! :)

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I'm not sure that i like the new look or name.
The Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition looks much better.
That said, i am going to buy this.
The title seems to suggest that this is the first, but not last, of Adventure Path collections.
I know - we won't getting a Second Darkness or Legacy of Fire APC anytime soon (if ever), but maybe a Kingmaker or Carrion Crown one? ;-)


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That is beautiful. The art department is really tearing s*~% up. :-)

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captain yesterday wrote:
That is beautiful. The art department is really tearing s&$% up. :-)

I usually don't comment much in our product threads, but I just spent the last 2 days preparing the PDF documents and I am personally just blown away. Sarah, her team, and our artists really outdid themselves :)

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Oh yeah. This looks nice.

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