
SCKnightHero1 |

SCKnightHero1 wrote:I'm hoping this book tells us how we can free the good elemental lords. Always been bummed about there being no good elemental lords. I mean the lord (actually lady) of good elemental earth in D&D was quite the looker. Woohoo. ;) ^^
But seriously the fact there were no good elemental lords to me felt that there was no balance in the elemental planes. Besides having players take part in the wars between elemental lords would have been cool.
Oh well here's hoping we have an Adventure Path where we actually free the good elemental lords!
You might find this season of Pathfinder Society Roleplaying Guild interesting.
** spoiler omitted **
Also, Ymeri seems to resent your oogling other elemental lords. She trusts you'll be more respectful of the elemental "pantheon" in the future. This is, of course, my translating her blazing cries to "burn all that fire touches," so perhaps we can just appreciate these demigods for their awesome power and even cooler schemes without goading them over matters of appearance.
Yeah probably best to be safe than sorry....so let's just be careful around Ymeri for the time being.

JiCi |

"the elemental purist kineticist archetype"
SOLD :D ! No seriously, the kineticist is one of my favorite classes, so I was waiting for a single-element archetype for a while now ;)
"Ymeri, Queen of the Inferno and Elemental Lord of Fire!"
Huh... shouldn't it be "Lady of Fire"? If she's a Queen, she can't be a "Lord". That's like saying she's a "King" :P

Luthorne |
"the elemental purist kineticist archetype"
SOLD :D ! No seriously, the kineticist is one of my favorite classes, so I was waiting for a single-element archetype for a while now ;)
"Ymeri, Queen of the Inferno and Elemental Lord of Fire!"
Huh... shouldn't it be "Lady of Fire"? If she's a Queen, she can't be a "Lord". That's like saying she's a "King" :P
And it's not new in Pathfinder either, there are female Empyreal Lords and Demon Lords...it's generally used as a gender neutral term.
Edit: Plus, it would get confusing with those who have no gender or are genderfluid...such as Arshea for the latter, and angels have been known to prefer a genderless form.

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can anyone who has the book give details about the the elemental purist kineticist archetype?
They lose expand element, omnikinesis, and the 11th & 19th level infusions. Also, they get 'Internal Buffer' as if 5 levels lower (e.g. don't receive it at all until 11th).
In exchange they get two abilities;
Elemental Impossibility - 7th level. Composite blast with expanded element equal to primary. Also gets 'impossible' form or substance infusions not associated with their element at 7th & every 4 levels thereafter. Can enter an 'elemental impossibility' state to apply impossible infusions to kinetic blast.
Elemental Apocalypse - 20th level. Once per day universal form infusion usable with any blast with up to 1 mile range and radius up to 360 feet.

JiCi |

And it's not new in Pathfinder either, there are female Empyreal Lords and Demon Lords...it's generally used as a gender neutral term.
Well, there were only "Lords" in B4; Nocticula got statted later in "Wrath of the Righteous", and there were both "Lords" and "Ladies" in B4; considering that the male term is always used to define a gender mixed group, it could be the reason.
Still... is there any "issue" about having Demon, Empyreal and/or Elemental "Lords" and "Ladies"? I hardly see a problem with this. I mean, it isn't discrimatory... or sexist... to call a royal female noble a "lady".
Hey, if we can have powerful queens and matriarchal tribal societies, I don't see a problem having a Demon Lady, Empyreal Lady or Elemental Lady, especially if the creative team refers her as "she".
Anyway, back on topic, that's just something that caught my eye :P

Luthorne |
Luthorne wrote:And it's not new in Pathfinder either, there are female Empyreal Lords and Demon Lords...it's generally used as a gender neutral term.Well, there were only "Lords" in B4; Nocticula got statted later in "Wrath of the Righteous", and there were both "Lords" and "Ladies" in B4; considering that the male term is always used to define a gender mixed group, it could be the reason.
Still... is there any "issue" about having Demon, Empyreal and/or Elemental "Lords" and "Ladies"? I hardly see a problem with this. I mean, it isn't discrimatory... or sexist... to call a royal female noble a "lady".
Hey, if we can have powerful queens and matriarchal tribal societies, I don't see a problem having a Demon Lady, Empyreal Lady or Elemental Lady, especially if the creative team refers her as "she".
Anyway, back on topic, that's just something that caught my eye :P
My point was that Nocticula is still classified as a Demon Lord even though her title is Our Lady in Shadow, just like Ymeri is the an Elemental Lord (of fire) whose title is "Queen of the Inferno". But yes, it's a minor thing, it's just been around for awhile.

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Creatures
Agrawgh-(CR5) earth based outsider type serpent-like borrowing creature.
Cinderghost-(CR7) ghost surrounded by ash.
Elemental Lord, Ymeri(CR28)
Elemental infused creature template(CR3)(Porcupine)
Jellyfish, bathysphere(CR1/2)- extra planar jelly fish.
Muraja- (CR5)NG monstrous humanoid hermit crab person.
Nephlei-(CR9) CN air based outsider woman.
Onkushu-(CR13) CG fire creature with wings, human like face, and oval body.
Ozimat-(CR11) Chunks of rocks float around a glowing green humanoid creature.
Veldenar-(CR10) Multi eyed blue frog like creature.

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Magic items yes, spells only one.
Planefarer's Band(ring)- 1/day grants special abilities based on one of the elemental planes, can be attuned to a different elemental plane each day.
Rift-Rending Bracers- Kineticist can use burn to create a rift to the material plane, ethereal plane, or elemental planes.
Janni Jaunt- Like plane shift but only to the astral, elemental, or material planes and the targets must be willing.

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Archetypes
Elemental Purist(kineticist)-You specialize in one element, at 7th level gain a new infusion that can be from another element, called impossible infusion, and she gains another one at 11th, 15th, and 19th.(replaces 15th and 19th infusions)
Elemental Apocalypse- At 20th level you can use the elemental apocalypse universal form infusion(Lv 9, Burn 5, Blast-any, save reflex half), 1/day you create an explosion that functions like the explosion form infusion escept you can center anywhere within 1 mile and choose the blast to be between 5' to 360' radius.(this replaces omnikinesis)
Planar Sneak(rogue)- planar sense- You gain a +1(increases like trap finding) bonus on saves vs effects with the air, chaos, earth, evil, fire, good, law, and water descriptors.(replaces trap sense)
Elemental execution-(4th)- you can use sneak attack vs elementals but only do half damage plus you only have a 50% to crit. At 8th level you sneak attack any outsider immune to crits and sneak attack.(replaces uncanny dodge and improved uncanny dodge)

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"the elemental purist kineticist archetype"
SOLD :D ! No seriously, the kineticist is one of my favorite classes, so I was waiting for a single-element archetype for a while now ;)
"Ymeri, Queen of the Inferno and Elemental Lord of Fire!"
Huh... shouldn't it be "Lady of Fire"? If she's a Queen, she can't be a "Lord". That's like saying she's a "King" :P
Look, if the most powerful fire elemental in existence decides that she wants to be called a Lord, you damn well better call her a lord! I mean, unless you like your flesh charbroiled. Maybe you do, I don't know.

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Rysky wrote:Cough. ;)djones wrote:Aren't succubi naturally fire-immune to start with anyway?
Unfortunately no.
Ymeri is immune to Energy Drain though :3
HOLY CRAP I JUST LEARNED SOMETHING ABOUT MYSELF.
After a wee bit of checking it has to do with being a Succubi (WIN!) and doesn't come from the Demon subtype, which is where I originally quickly checked :3

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Luthorne wrote:Rysky wrote:Cough. ;)djones wrote:Aren't succubi naturally fire-immune to start with anyway?
Unfortunately no.
Ymeri is immune to Energy Drain though :3
HOLY CRAP I JUST LEARNED SOMETHING ABOUT MYSELF.
After a wee bit of checking it has to do with being a Succubi (WIN!) and doesn't come from the Demon subtype, which is where I originally quickly checked :3
Indeed, I guess succubi are just naturally prepared to deal with extremely hot things for some reason...

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Rysky wrote:Indeed, I guess succubi are just naturally prepared to deal with extremely hot things for some reason...Luthorne wrote:Rysky wrote:Cough. ;)djones wrote:Aren't succubi naturally fire-immune to start with anyway?
Unfortunately no.
Ymeri is immune to Energy Drain though :3
HOLY CRAP I JUST LEARNED SOMETHING ABOUT MYSELF.
After a wee bit of checking it has to do with being a Succubi (WIN!) and doesn't come from the Demon subtype, which is where I originally quickly checked :3
Damn right!

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Barbarian Rage Powers
Aryzul's Curse(SU)- Emanate an aura of radioactivity(cumulate str penalty).
Hshurha's Veil(SU)- Can use stealth while raging(plus 1/2 barbarian lv to stealth) also gain concealment vs ranged attacks and attacks of opportunity.
Kelizandri's Tide(SU)- Full round action while raging to perform combat maneuver to all targets within 10' to force them 5' closer+ 1/day whirl wind attack.
Ymeri's Pyre(SU)- Each round you rage it counts for 2 rounds for the duration of any negative conditions effecting you, plus you can use 5 rounds of rage to make another save.
New Domains(Druids)
Plane of Air
Ariel Agility(EX)- Bonuses in various levels of gravity.
Wind Savant(SU)- Wind effects are 2 levels less severe and gain a bonus 1/2 you druid level vs gases, gaseous breath weapons, inhaled poisons, and similar effects.
Plane of Earth
Spelunker(SU)- Bonuses while in rocky terrain, underground, and squeezing in tight places.
One with the Stone(SU)- Gain limit use earth glide ability.
Plane of Fire
Fire Hardened(EX)- Gain fire resistance, fire planar adaptation, and other bonuses when in fire dominant plane.
One with the Flame(SU)- Grant allies cold outsider bane, fire outsider bane, or flaming weapon properties.
Plane of Water
Aquatic Veil(SU)- Surround yourself with water, gain bonuses on swim checks and breath underwater, can expend use to attack with the water.
Hydraulic Crush(SP)- Create a 5' radius 30' high column of water that does 1d6 bludgeoning damage per druid level plus knock prone.

Oliver Veyrac |

It is shame that genies do not have the elemental subtype because it would help with there lack of DR and other defenses.
We actually houseruled Genies as elementals. That and we made them have the abilities of a kineticist of their level -2 that way they can be similar to Rahkshasas I am looking forward to this book, as back in my 3.5 days my first adventure was Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil. Lots of elemental themes in that module.

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Sounds like a surprising amount of player options. On that front, does Ymeri (or the others) get deific obediences?
How's the fluff?
It has info on the lost good elemental lords and their various prisons (previously hinted at in the Moaning Diamond writeup). Lots of details on the planes and various locations therein that I haven't had time to go through yet. Looks like a fairly solid 'gazeteer' overall.

QuidEst |

Does purist mean you can take explosion and use it with say metal, or does the lime about energy vs physical cover that?
I think that covers it, because otherwise there's not much that just says "energy blasts only". Disintegrating Infusion is another good energy only choice, allowing you to get it on a non-composite blast.