Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Bestiary 5 (OGL)

Dragon78, yes, but I'll get back to you later.
Mark, thanks for the reply.

I hope there will improved familiars for aberration, ooze, and plant and some more dragon and fey based ones.

I hope we're getting at least some demigod and/or quasigod creatures.

I think we're getting at least a few CR 26+ critters, but I might be mistaken.

I am sure we will get a couple CR26+ creatures, now what they might be, who knows.

I am sure we will get a couple CR26+ creatures, now what they might be, who knows.

One other thing I've been doing in development when I have space in the turnover is adding powerful variant abilities for stronger versions, like with balor lords and pit fiend infernal dukes. Some of the abilities for more powerful versions of a creature that is already normally mythic CR 24 are just terrifying!

I'd like more male versions of the Succubus trope. Peronally I'd really like to see an Imp, Incuvan (you know, he's like an Incubus, only smaller ;) )

I hope that the CR26+ creatures in this are not all fiends.

I wonder if the templates will all be all new, or some will be older ones like the Broken Soul template.

It could be a mixture of both;)

I wish for wings that work :-)

Piasa, Piasa, Piasa, Piasa, Piasa.

Piasa.

The blog from Tuesday showed them, they are aliens.

Found it. Ok, well in that case, WOOOOOOT!

A Piasa would be interesting.

I've wanted a Piasa for a long time. Been using a Half Dragon Advanced Peryton as a substitute, but I want a real one.

Dragon78, yes, but I'll get back to you later.

Mark, thanks for the reply.

Eric sent out a well-researched, polite, and extremely well-thought-out PM to me about those B4 monsters. I thought I'd share my answer (assume it was preceded with math showing that there's a problem with creatures that have iterative attacks, one of my own personal issues with B2-B4, and then also the irminsul). My reply to him starts on the next line:

So actually, you have identified the opposite problem to the one you thought you identified (but you're still totally right, and this is actually one thing I brought up at my interview and Jason told me I was right; B4 had been out for a while before I came on, and B2 and B3 aren't immune, although B1 oddly mostly is because it was written before the chart). Except for the irminsul, which I'm not sure what the heck is up with it, a lot of those other ones suffer because someone used the chart blindly. I'll clarify: Your math is excellent, but the chart damage is for all attacks hitting, and the chart is blind to how likely that is. This led to my working with Logan during the Unchained monster section to figure out a simple rule of thumb to approximate the math you were doing there with iteratives, since clearly monsters with iteratives that are less likely to hit need to do more damage per hit than monsters that all make natural attacks at their full bonus. B5's use of expected damage taking iteratives' lack of accuracy into account should be a good boost for creatures like fey that often used manufactured weapons.

So it's actually by going against the chart in a smart way, like I described in my follow-up post, that we can avoid these definite issues with monsters (except the irminsul because seriously), rather than by following it more closely. Also, I think I developed most if not all of the high-CR fey, and they are going to pack quite a punch; their creature type is troublesome due to 1/2 BAB (so a good attack bonus either requires a truly mammoth Strength or ridiculously many HD).

What I do for warrior fey is to give them an ability to attack better. Could be a swift action ability that energizes their weapon, giving it bonuses to hit. Or use dexterity as the to hit stat. Or, one time I made a fey warrior that lowered enemy stats near her, making them easier to hit. There are a lot of good ways to work around them. Good luck :)

Also you should totally put the hupia from my Arcadia thread in the bestiary :)

What I do for warrior fey is to give them an ability to attack better. Could be a swift action ability that energizes their weapon, giving it bonuses to hit. Or use dexterity as the to hit stat. Or, one time I made a fey warrior that lowered enemy stats near her, making them easier to hit. There are a lot of good ways to work around them. Good luck :)

Also you should totally put the hupia from my Arcadia thread in the bestiary :)

Indeed. Between some awesome ideas from freelancers and designers alike, the highest-CR fey have some mighty abilities at their command. Some of the more mid-CR or less fighty ones, like the fastachee previewed at the banquet, sometimes have other advantages (for instance, it is very unlikely that a party will be able to have a straight, simple face to face combat encounter with a fastachee, and if they make one an enemy, it can launch some significant harassment on them as support for other encounters, without even coming into the party's crosshairs).

Because it gives them magic corn?

Because it gives them magic corn?

Hopefully a party that pisses one off will learn the ear of their ways :D

Because it gives them magic corn?

Nope, you'll have to find out! Granted, fastachees are usually pretty friendly, so a party that made an enemy of one is probably full of big meanies.

Dragon78 wrote:

Because it gives them magic corn?

Hopefully a party that pisses one off will learn the ear of their ways :D

Well, as Jason mentioned at the banquet, a fastachee literally does have the ability to use the corn as ears from a great distance... :D

lol that's awesome.

Also, i forgot my shameless bestiary plugging in my last post. NOOO!!

Maybe (A) we (E) need (O) to (N) change... our tactics;)

I wonder if there will be any more creatures from 3rd Ed monster manual or the Tome of Horrors.

I would love to see different kinds of sprites like water, moon, wood, winter, etc. Also some good aligned cold based fey would be nice and a summer/fire template for fey that makes them good aligned.

What is the specific issue with the irminsul?

What is the specific issue with the irminsul?

Really low attack bonus mostly.

Huh. The Irminsul have really low hit dice for a CR 17 mob (who's gargantuan on top of that). (And that planar portal is apparently eating up all seven ranks worth of mythic abilities? Another ouch, there.)

I'm guessing the Erlking with his various built-in, always-on self-buffs is a hint to what other damage-oriented fey will be looking like in the future?

Great rideable winged cats?

So today I learned about Nordic Aliens. Doing some research, but these guys seem like a good fit for the greys and annanuaki present in the game.

I heard of them as well, though I find it funny that while Wikipedia says they are mostly male, most of the shows I see mention them say female.

I would like winged cats with sizes range from house cat to tiger.

So today I learned about Nordic Aliens. Doing some research, but these guys seem like a good fit for the greys and annanuaki present in the game.

So, I have been researching the UFO and ET/Abduction phenomena since I was a little kid, going on over 20 years of unending curiosity to understand what the heck was going on, and why some people are "crazy" and others are "not crazy." Of course, there is no validity in this fact - there is a real phenomenon, and the people who control our highest levels of military, intelligence, government, and private-sector contractors just lie, and make the situation harder for the rest of us to cope with it. Okay, so enough with the generalizations.

I find this site to be incredibly helpful: UFO Implications Radio Show Archive. Best show with the best researcher in the field (Dr. David Jacobs - August 2, 2011), talking about ET abduction regressions performed on people: here.

I heard of them as well, though I find it funny that while Wikipedia says they are mostly male, most of the shows I see mention them say female.

I would like winged cats with sizes range from house cat to tiger.

It would be cool to have something like this.

THAT. I definitely WANT THAT.
That and a little fuzzy angel-cat to pet as a familiar.

Odraude wrote:

Dragon78 wrote:

Because it gives them magic corn?

Hopefully a party that pisses one off will learn the ear of their ways :D

Well, as Jason mentioned at the banquet, a fastachee literally does have the ability to use the corn as ears from a great distance... :D

Can they backstab sneak attack meanies with an ear of corn for not eating their veggies?

Well it also be cool to get some of the other aliens from modern day encounter stories such as the reptile and insect like ones.

Will there be more info about this book during Gen Con?

THAT. I definitely WANT THAT.

That and a little fuzzy angel-cat to pet as a familiar.

I want the Forgotten Realms tressym-cat back. ^_^

I wouldn't mind getting the Glaistig or Boggart to add to they fey side. More clockworks would be appreciated, especially since you can convert them into robots pretty easily if need be.

All in all I am beyond excited for this book. Even when I can't actively play Pathfinder with my friends I love to worldbuild and having more monsters to build a world with is always appreciated

I would like something like the Tressym.

Glaistig and Boggart would be nice as well.

If some 26± challenge rating monster, i hope some dragons and angels or whatefer good alignment monster.

I'd like to see the new gliding dinosaur, Yi Qi, as a familiar. Microraptor too.

I'd like to see the new gliding dinosaur, Yi Qi, as a familiar. Microraptor too.

Would they really need their own stats since we already have stats for Rhamphoryncus and Archeopteryx?

And I just want to see more Qlippoth and Psychopomps.

It would be nice to see a CR 26+ dragon.

I wonder if any of the fey in the book are bigger then huge size.

I would like to see a CR 26+ that is small size.

I would like to see a CR 26+ that is small size.

The Legendary Black Beast of Caerbannog?

No, but seriously, this. We need massive threats in miniature size, just to throw players off sometime.

I would fine if it was "The Legendary Black Beast of Caerbannog" at least it would still be tiny to small size.

I can't wait to see the final cover art for this, I am really curious wich creatures were lucky to get picked.

Maybe (A) we (E) need (O) to (N) change... our tactics;)

My thoughts exactly.

We are aware demons and devils and celestials sell well and everyone enjoys more but seriously.

We have WAY more than enough by Paizo and beyond. Exactly when does Paizo plan to draw the line and say,"Ok enough of fiends and celestials. Let's finally start racking up on Lawful (Inevitables), Chaotic (Protean), and Neutral (Aeon) outsiders."

Instead they keep throwing scraps here and there. One inevitable this year, one protean that year, still no new aeons...

Be daring. Do something new and fresh already. How many more fiends and celestials do we need, that 3PP hasn't already also made a ton of, do we really need?

More Psychopomps?

I actually have been seeing more Psychopomps springing up than I do see Inevitables, Proteans and Aeons combined.

Let's see.

Aeons: Akhana (Bestiary 2), Bythos (Bestiary 2), Paracletus (Bestiary 2), Pleroma (Bestiary 2), Theletos (Bestiary 2)
Inevitables: Arbiter (Bestiary 2), Kolyarut (Bestiary 2), Lhaksharut (Bestiary 2), Marut (Bestiary 2), Yarahkut (AP #90), Zelekhut (Bestiary 2)
Proteans: Imentesh (Bestiary 2), Keketar (Bestiary 2), Naunet (Bestiary 2), Ourdivar (AP#92), Voidworm (Bestiary 2)

Total: 16

Psychopomps: Ahmuuth (Inner Sea Gods), Catrina (Bestiary 4), Esobok (AP #80), Kere (AP #64), Memitim (Inner Sea Bestiary), Morrigna (Bestiary 4), Nosoi (Bestiary 4), Shoki (Inner Sea Bestiary), Vanth (Bestiary 4), Viduus (Inner Sea Bestiary), Yamaraj (Bestiary 4)

Total: 11

Not quite, but close.