Hey, could anyone give me the names of the Archons in the book? Thanks in advance!
They are Exscinder Archon(CR12) and Gate Archon(CR17).
The balisse angel looks male but doesn't say it is male or female in the description/text.
They are Exscinder Archon(CR12) and Gate Archon(CR17).
Thanks! Also, can I get an explanation on what the Exscinder Archon's role is, like what it does and its abilities? Thanks again!
Are Wakandagi good (hope not) or evil/neutral (I hope so)?They're neutral good, but have fierce tempers when it comes to things ruining rivers, particularly by poisoning them or overfishing in them...there are stories that say that if it's angry, it'll come charging out of the mists it can create, scattering humans, capsizing boats, flinging around water bombs, and goring anyone that gets too close.
A too bad, a promising creature getting destroyed by a good alignment... they are only evil to evil creatures, which isn't my thing at all.
It is just a more powerful Kirin now...
Also good to hear there are less pretty females in this bestiary, there were far too many in Bestiary 4 anyway.
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yeah it's probably worth commenting on: Whoever did the art order for this bestiary very much took some threads on the board seriously, which complained of the lack of attractive male figures compared to all the sexy succubus style fey/outsiders/etc. There are many more revealingly dressed lithe male figures in this bestiary compared to similarly attired male individuals
Let me guess, Gancanagh and Veela haha
Gancanagh is definitely in the "I shall bare my chest through my doublet" school of fashion, and the veela is described as "androgynous", which is a pretty ripped dude with a very feminine face, doing the dance of the seven veils.
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Didn't like the Fext art as well. Also disappointed in the lack of attractive female art in this one. In fact only one of the celestials is female and the only way you can tell is she has boobs because she wears a mask. Finally the Glaistig has good art but they didn't give any kind of bust at all so she looks like she is a child though I am not sure if that was the intent or not.Isn't the balisse angel female as well, not just the gate archon? Though since manasaputras have the good subtype, they might also be considered celestials, but they inhabit the positive energy plane, so perhaps not. But if they do count, the rishu manu and twilight pitri would also be added to the list of female celestials. Though I think it's nice that they're evening the scales when it comes to males and females.
Hey, could anyone give me the names of the Archons in the book? Thanks in advance!Exscinder archons: Heaven's censors, who handle texts containing information too evil or too dangerous to exist.
Gate archons: They guard interplanetary portals.
Nahh the Balisse angel is an androgynous male from what I can tell. It's actually kind of a shame that they changed his and the choral angels art, I rather liked their original work and the new balisse art could have been cool for another angel. That said the elk agathion's new art is dope.
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Just going to say I'm disappointed by the lack of attractive females and leave it at that.
The Wakandagi sounds awesome. I'm really glad to see some regal good aligned beasts.
Thanks man! That is awesome!
Ovinnik not evil? That is a bummer! I wished the Domovoi was good, the Kikimora was neutral and the Ovinnik was evil, so all alignments are presented on the house spirits.
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I saw the grays come up again and I thought this was a great time to share something that was one of my inspirations for their desing (on top of hours of trauma watching Unsolved Mysteries and Fire in the Skies as a kid.)
The infamous "panicked caller" on the Art Bell radio show: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ee3bld4lTG0
Listening to that always creeps me out!
I love that the Grey are evil!
Also the Isonade and Cherufe at the side of evil are a dream come true! Pyrausta is chaotic neutral which is cool!
Amarok and Davana Titan as Lawful Neutral is strange for me.
But i'm still not 100% sure what some alignments stand for, in my eyes for example all good-alignment creatures are creatures that are like the little pony's, they can't do harm to other creatures, only those who are evil.
Lawful Neutral for me is close to good, they are gentle creatures that live in peace mostly, the chaotic neutral's are more evilish in nature in my mind.
Thanks man! That is awesome!
Ovinnik not evil? That is a bummer! I wished the Domovoi was good, the Kikimora was neutral and the Ovinnik was evil, so all alignments are presented on the house spirits.
The Domovoi is CG, according to Luthorne's list.
However, the Dvorovoi is CN...Carry on.
--C.
Oh, i'm happy with the Domovoi being good, but the Ovinnik is the only one I want to alignment shift.
I don't care for the Dvorovoi, least favorite of the house spirits, I like Kikimora more.
But i'm still not 100% sure what some alignments stand for, in my eyes for example all good-alignment creatures are creatures that are like the little pony's, they can't do harm to other creatures, only those who are evil.
That's a strange viewpoint... I mean, people only just gave you the example of the Wakandagi which might kill you if you fish too much in it's river.
But i'm still not 100% sure what some alignments stand for, in my eyes for example all good-alignment creatures are creatures that are like the little pony's, they can't do harm to other creatures, only those who are evil.That's a strange viewpoint... I mean, people only just gave you the example of the Wakandagi which might kill you if you fish too much in it's river.
Yes an evil deed, overfishing is never good. :-p
But can Good natured creatures in Pathfinder kill for sport? Or would they never do that unless they are templated?
But i'm still not 100% sure what some alignments stand for, in my eyes for example all good-alignment creatures are creatures that are like the little pony's, they can't do harm to other creatures, only those who are evil.That's a strange viewpoint... I mean, people only just gave you the example of the Wakandagi which might kill you if you fish too much in it's river.Yes an evil deed, overfishing is never good. :-p
But can Good natured creatures in Pathfinder kill for sport? Or would they never do that unless they are templated?
Good natured creatures hunt evil( or beings they perceive as evil) beings for sport. If they hunted non-evil beings for sport then they wouldn't be good
Yes an evil deed, overfishing is never good. :-p
Thing is, you might not know your overfishing and it could be that community has been overfishing and your just the person that was there fishing for the first or second time there and it waterbombs and gores you.
But can Good natured creatures in Pathfinder kill for sport? Or would they never do that unless they are templated?
Depends on what they are hunting I suppose.
But do good-natured creatures kill neutral creatures? :-p
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Tammy kills every alignment, she's not here to judge.
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But Tammy, you're a lich, you are evil, you should kill everything in sight!
But Good VS Neutral is an interesting case, neutral creatures kill for food, but do good creatures kill the mindless beasts or do they take them out without hurting them?
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Well I would think dying by it's very nature hurts, but that's nit picking and just distracts from your overall argument.
Good question, I'll consider it.
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But Good VS Neutral is an interesting case, neutral creatures kill for food, but do good creatures kill the mindless beasts or do they take them out without hurting them?
Good creatures kill for food as well. I mean, unless they are vegetarian or use magic to make their food there isn't any other option.
Lol, it is question day today.
But do good creatures kill mindless beast for food or also Karkadann and other intelligent creatures for food?
Lol, it is question day today.
But do good creatures kill mindless beast for food or also Karkadann and other intelligent creatures for food?
I don't see why they wouldn't eat animals, and I can see them eating "sentients" depending on their species's taboos and the situation. They'd probably prefer to eat animals though.
Though personally, I think creatures in the bestiaries work better when alignment doesn't exist.
In D&D 4th edition, most creatures are neutral, good doesn't exist, only in very few cases, even the Gold and Silver Dragons are neutral if I remember well, I liked that! Neutral Dryad! Tree-huggers from hell! Yeah!
I liked that, but that was all I liked in the end, the rest sucked.
I prefer Dryads to be good. Granted, I'm a diehard environmentalist, and I generally consider any creature whose goal is protecting the environment to be good, except for when they go into really extreme means.
Awesome reference.
Clearly my Russian-by-Irrisen bard will need to make sure he has enough knowledge nature to make sure he doesn't confuse a domovoi with a polevoi when one is two feet in front of him...
Don't think that will be a problem, the only thing that is similar is the name.
As in pathfinder the domovoi is a tiny creature and the Polevik is a medium/small (can't remember) creature with toadstools growing out of it.
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He's actually making a Dresden Files reference. It's a joke.
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the muse art is freaking terrible. jesus
Would you say that it is uninspired?
I agree, the art for the muse is really bad:(...and yes I would say it was uninspired;)
Are Wakandagi good (hope not) or evil/neutral (I hope so)?
Is that a walrus thing from Inuit lore or am I thinking of something else?
Oop. Nvm. Just read the description.
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fyi Veelas are all female, if it's a male it should be called vilenjak (or vilenyak)
@ Muse, so because they turned the Muse into a bigger woman she's uninspired? YOu know what, Muse as Nymph-number-101 would be uninspired, not all greek monsters should be pretties.
Muse are about songs, and art, not about beauty of body.
@ Veela, yes, and Leshy's aren't cute little things, and Barghests aren't humanoid, and Basilisks are more like chicken, and, and and and. There are a lot of monsters from myth in pathfinder that changed some way or another, some bad some for good, but that depends on everyone's taste.
While I don't mind the Veela being a male in pathfinder, I'd rather seen them use the Katsura-Otoko for such feminine-looking guy. Veela would be cool as storm nymphs, but even that is non-correct as Veelas can be anything, they are the most chaotic beings in mythology, and for that i'm happy they at least have a solid form in pathfinder, same goes to the similar Hala Demon.
@ Muse, so because they turned the Muse into a bigger woman she's uninspired? YOu know what, Muse as Nymph-number-101 would be uninspired, not all greek monsters should be pretties.
Muse are about songs, and art, not about beauty of body.
It's possible that it's the art itself, such as an art style some people don't dig, and not so much the fact the art depicts a womanly figure that doesn't comform to "modern beauty ideals".
Of course, it's also entirely possible that people are disagreeing with the choice of physical appearance for the muse, in which case I say booh to the haters. :)
Well Dragon78 said in an earlier post that he disliked the lack of pretty females in this book, so I thought it was about her size really, not about the artwork.
I can't find anything ugly on that artwork.
I don't remember if anyone said, but what benefits do all the familiars grant?
Well, for me personally, I have no problem with the Muse art, except for the face. It just looks weird to me.
Well, for me personally, I have no problem with the Muse art, except for the face. It just looks weird to me.
I think it is the way that the shadows makes the bottom of her nose seem to be squared off unless you look closely. Her right hand seems to show a lot of webbing between her thumb and forefinger, too. But then she isn't human. I think the art looks fine.