Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Bestiary 5 (OGL)

Does anyone know where the mockup cover art is from?

Does anyone know where the mockup cover art is from?

Pathfinder Adventure Path #11: Skeletons of Scarwall. It's the in-adventure art for the danse macabre. (Which means "dance of death", by the way. ^_^)

I notice the text says "leshi" and not "leshy." Typo or different monster?

I notice the text says "leshi" and not "leshy." Typo or different monster?

huh yeah...maybe this is the Leshi that reflects slavic folklore, versus the previous "plant constructs".

You can never, ever, ever have too many bestiaries.

I am hoping it is a typo because I want more of those little plant creatures.

I wonder if the Danse Macabre finally made into a hardcover bestiary?

I hope it's the leshy fey from slavic mythology + some cactus and venusflytrap leshy plant.

Would be cool to have both.

I think this book will contain 15 robots, all from innersea bestiary, and all from IRon God Bestiaries + some new ones, they go before ANY other AP bestiary.

Also probably no Skrik Nettle.

Well if they do finally have the Skrik Nettle that they keep the old art.

I doubt there will be 15 robots more then likely 4-7.

"Maybe the Grim Reaper too, because he's kinda on the cover now, so maybe a hint.

Spare for the Grim Reaper, I hope i'm totally wrong."

Don't fear the reaper.

(Lame attempt at humour. :-/)

I don't think this book will reprint any creatures from the Inner Sea Bestiary because (a) those are intended to be Golarion-specific while the Bestiary books are setting-neutral, and (b) because they want to keep selling the Inner Sea Bestiary.

It will, however, reprint some but not all creatures from recent adventure path bestiaries, yes, probably including robots from the Iron Gods volumes.East of Midnight

I don't think this book will reprint any creatures from the Inner Sea Bestiary because (a) those are intended to be Golarion-specific while the Bestiary books are setting-neutral, and (b) because they want to keep selling the Inner Sea Bestiary.

It will, however, reprint some but not all creatures from recent adventure path bestiaries, yes, probably including robots from the Iron Gods volumes.East of Midnight

I really hope the Grim Reaper has new art, the art in the AP bestiary of the Grim Reaper was for me personally the worst art from paizo i've ever seen, not because it's badly drawn, more because it doesn't look like a grim reaper at all spare for the scythe. More some gothic emo dream.

And Robots are special, they will be the only creatures from the Inner Sea Bestiary that probably get reprinted. And the bestiaries aren't neutral-setting anymore, as robots from Numeria have entered the pages.

The AP bestiaries have always been mixed with Golarion-specific and setting-neutral creatures. Also, robots are not special, why would they be.

But actually, arguing with you seem kind of pointless. I have the feeling it'S difficult for you to accept that Paizo don't make their products especially for you.

They have said they might reprint monsters from the Inner Sea Bestiary when it sold out/no longer in print. But that could be a while from now maybe B6 or B7.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the android in a hardcover Bestiary sooner rather than later, what with its comparative prominence (compared to, say, the ghoran).

Nevermind, I better take a half-year off, the A-book-of-creatures projects interests me much more anyway now, all this sciencefiction stuff only bugs me off, i'll wait for the product to judge, while I still have bad feeling about this book.

I would love to see the Lashuta, Android, Ghoran, Syrinx, and Monkey Goblin make into a hardcover bestiary one day.

My hope is for more Proteans, and more creatures from native american folklore. Also dinosaurs. Always dinosaurs. (With the artist who did the dinosaurs from Bestiary 4, who is amazing)

I hope there will be...
-around 15-25 fey.
-some new types of "lesser" dragons would be nice such as ones bread to be pets, familairs, mounts, and/or "guard dogs".
-more proteans.
-more azata and/or agathions.
-more inevitables.
-more oni, azura, and/or qlippoth.
-6-12 0HD races w/ half of them being new.
-a few new drakes(storm, crystal).
-a few more Linnorms.
-3-5 terrain/elemental giants.
-more Japanese myth creatures especially the nekomata.
-some classic literature creatures such as the Cheshire Cat.
-more types of lamia.
-more megafauna and dinosaurs.
-more green plants and a non-fungal/mold template that turns creatures into (green)plant creatures.
-a few more types of trolls.
-more types of giant cockroaches, sea anemones, sea urchins, etc.
-4-8 robots.
-4-6 golems.
-1-4 clockworks.
-10+ elementals.
-Some non-humanoid shaped undead such as animals, oozes, plants, etc.
-more creatures from African, native American, Australian, Indian, Celtic myth.
-1-3 new Kaiju.
-2 new lycanthropes.
-1-2 new vampires.
-a good aligned ooze.

I am glad that it is coming out soon!

I am glad that it is coming out soon!

Me too; there are so many cool monsters in here, and I want to see 'em in adventures!

"Maybe the Grim Reaper too, because he's kinda on the cover now, so maybe a hint.

Spare for the Grim Reaper, I hope i'm totally wrong."

Don't fear the reaper.

(Lame attempt at humour. :-/)

Don't worry. Every rose has its thorn. ;)

Yes, but will B5 have Shadows and Vorlons?

I hope they include some of the older monsters that were in the APs or modules.

There's a few 3e monsters that haven't been done for Pathfinder too.

Mike

Hm, does anyone remember the Azi? I wouldn't mind seeing them get a reprint.

Hmm...not really fond of a huge Alien theme. Robots I could use. Mythic monsters are fine as long as they don't overload this book. I thought we got that back in Bestiary 4?

Also not caring about the new "occult monsters" in this, as I have no interest in Occult Adventures. I thought that was the purpose of the Occult Bestiary?

As long as we get more Inevitables and Aeons I'll be happy. Unlike Paizo, I like to run the whole "Law vs Chaos" theme and I can also run some pretty interesting adventures involving Aeons. I just wish I had a big chunk more of Inevitables and Aeons to better run my games with.

Speaking of 0-HD races, are there any that have been published that havent already made it into a bestiary?

Hmm...not really fond of a huge Alien theme. Robots I could use. Mythic monsters are fine as long as they don't overload this book. I thought we got that back in Bestiary 4?

Also not caring about the new "occult monsters" in this, as I have no interest in Occult Adventures. I thought that was the purpose of the Occult Bestiary?

As long as we get more Inevitables and Aeons I'll be happy. Unlike Paizo, I like to run the whole "Law vs Chaos" theme and I can also run some pretty interesting adventures involving Aeons. I just wish I had a big chunk more of Inevitables and Aeons to better run my games with.

I would guess, like mythic, most of the occult monsters can be run without needing Occult Adventures. Personally I am glad we are getting more mythic...I hate abandoned rulesets, and mythic monsters are one of the better things in the system

Speaking of 0-HD races, are there any that have been published that havent already made it into a bestiary?

Off the top of my head, we still need the Kuru, Triaxians, Skinwalkers, and Shabti in a hardcover bestiary, although not sure if Mummy's Mask made the AP cut off. and Triaxians might be hard to do as setting neutral.

Hmm...not really fond of a huge Alien theme. Robots I could use. Mythic monsters are fine as long as they don't overload this book. I thought we got that back in Bestiary 4?

Also not caring about the new "occult monsters" in this, as I have no interest in Occult Adventures. I thought that was the purpose of the Occult Bestiary?

As long as we get more Inevitables and Aeons I'll be happy. Unlike Paizo, I like to run the whole "Law vs Chaos" theme and I can also run some pretty interesting adventures involving Aeons. I just wish I had a big chunk more of Inevitables and Aeons to better run my games with.

You probably won't need Occult Adventures to use the monsters in question; James Jacobs has already said that things like the intellect devourer, night hag, xill, and neothelid all count as occult monsters already, so chances are good that they'll just be run like any monster, but happen to be well-suited for games with an occult theme.

Is the "caller in darkness" a lovecraftian creature?

Also i would be very interested if more Demon Lords, Great Old Ones and an Archdevil or 2 are included.

Personally i like the inclusion of robots.

I'll do my best to answer with a few things I know we already spoiled at Paizocon.

* The caller in darkness is a 3.5 beastie

* There are NOT any more demon lords, great oldies, etc. There are, however, a great many mythic and high CR monsters.

* Yay, robots.

Is this the final cover art?

My word, no.

See past bestiary covers for a suggestion of what this one will look like.

Well the leshy are plant creatures and I am sure we will get more then that.

We previewed the ADORABLE lotus leshy at Paizocon.

They have art for the dream dragon on the blog they just posted.

We have so far showed off the Dream Dragon and (predictably) the Nightmare Dragon.

I wonder if there will be overlap with Occult Bestiary.

There will not be.

The Occult Bestiary will present psychic versions of existing monsters and new occult monsters from Golarion.

This will present other occult/psychic monsters.

Really curious how much of my biggest wishes this book contains.

** spoiler omitted **

Really hope it are more than in Bestiary 4 who had: Abaia / Almiraj / Alp-Luachra / Buggane / Erlking / Fossegrim / Harionago / Hyakume / Karkinoi / Lampad / Leanan Sidhe / Soulsliver / Cactus-folk / Tikbalang / Tooth Fairy / Other-art for Vouivre from my wishlist.

Also hope on 4 interesting Dinosaurs (therizinosaurus with art) and some megafauna!

Also hope the Raiju, Ammut and Sha (Set Animal) make it from the AP bestiaries.

REJOICE! Monsters from this list do appear in Bestiary 5.

Joe Wells wrote:

I wonder if there will be overlap with Occult Bestiary.

I doubt Overlap, but I'm pretty sure our old friends the caller in darkness, brain mole, and thought eater will be using mechanics from Occult adventures hardcover.

(Since Paizo had to re-invent the psionic wheel :P)

This will also mean that several old psionic standbys have been reinvented.

For example, "brain mole" is now a term for a TERRIFYING new band of creatures.

I spotted that in another thread it looks like there's going to be a 0HD Darkfolk and a 0HD Sasquatch-type.

Yes.

PLAYABLE DARKFOLK ? YYYEEEEEESSSSSssssssssssss

Exactly my sentiment, that's why I wrote them. ;)

I notice the text says "leshi" and not "leshy." Typo or different monster?

Typo.

You can never, ever, ever have too many bestiaries.

True Facts.

They have said they might reprint monsters from the Inner Sea Bestiary when it sold out/no longer in print. But that could be a while from now maybe B6 or B7.

As there seems to be a lot of speculation about this, yes, Bestiary 5 WILL include a small number of creatures from Inner Sea Bestiary.

Hmm...not really fond of a huge Alien theme. Robots I could use. Mythic monsters are fine as long as they don't overload this book. I thought we got that back in Bestiary 4?

Also not caring about the new "occult monsters" in this, as I have no interest in Occult Adventures. I thought that was the purpose of the Occult Bestiary?

I would not say the book has either an aliens "theme," per say.

There are aliens, there are occult monsters, there are even mythic monsters, but I wouldn't say their presence overshadows the book's goal: present a @#$%-ton of cool new monsters! :)

Barachiel Shina wrote:

Hmm...not really fond of a huge Alien theme. Robots I could use. Mythic monsters are fine as long as they don't overload this book. I thought we got that back in Bestiary 4?

Also not caring about the new "occult monsters" in this, as I have no interest in Occult Adventures. I thought that was the purpose of the Occult Bestiary?

I would not say the book has either an aliens "theme," per say.

There are aliens, there are occult monsters, there are even mythic monsters, but I wouldn't say their presence overshadows the book's goal: present a @#$%-ton of cool new monsters! :)

Yeah, it's got a whole lot of awesome no matter what creature type is your favorite. Even if your favorite is oozes or plants or something! Guess how many CR 20 plants are in the book, Bestiary fans? There's even some bedeviling and powerful fey that dethrone the norn and erlking as our most powerful yet!

...things like the intellect devourer, night hag, xill, and neothelid all count as occult monsters already, so chances are good that they'll just be run like any monster, but happen to be well-suited for games with an occult theme.

A great many monsters that already have occult themes can be run as they are, or you can invest them with the new psychic magic rules to make them work even better. Several of those you mention get new psychic brethren in Occult Bestiary.

Luthorne wrote:

...things like the intellect devourer, night hag, xill, and neothelid all count as occult monsters already, so chances are good that they'll just be run like any monster, but happen to be well-suited for games with an occult theme.

A great many monsters that already have occult themes can be run as they are, or you can invest them with the new psychic magic rules to make them work even better. Several of those you mention get new psychic brethren in Occult Bestiary.

Basically if you just open your PRD to whatever Occult Adventures spells are in the monster's SLAs, you're completely set, same as if a monster has a spell from Ultimate Magic!

I'm sold. I want to put these critters in adventures!

Dragon78 wrote:

They have said they might reprint monsters from the Inner Sea Bestiary when it sold out/no longer in print. But that could be a while from now maybe B6 or B7.

As there seems to be a lot of speculation about this, yes, Bestiary 5 WILL include a small number of creatures from Inner Sea Bestiary.

Really hope it are:

Scarab Beetle / Korir-Kokembe / Termagant Kyton / Oronci (with better artwork) / Thin Man

And most of all the awesome Whirlmaw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But i'm sure it will be android + the robots, and maybe the veiled master.

RED PANDA FAMILIAR!!!

I am disappointed to hear that the brain mole isn't the brain mole:(

Does one of those CR 20 plant creatures break into musical numbers before it eats it's victim:)

I am disappointed to hear that the brain mole isn't the brain mole:(

I'll tell you what Stephen told the freelancers when they asked "Should we use other OGL versions for monsters or just make up something new?"; his answer was always "Use whatever combination makes the best monster."

Does one of those CR 20 plant creatures break into musical numbers before it eats it's victim:)

You'll have to find out! At least one of them can pretty much end an entire city...