Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Bestiary 5 (OGL)

Is the "caller in darkness" a lovecraftian creature?

Also i would be very interested if more Demon Lords, Great Old Ones and an Archdevil or 2 are included.

Personally i like the inclusion of robots.

AWESOME! were getting thought eaters, brain moles, grays, robots, esoteric dragons, flying monkeys, new angels, and new leshi.

Is this the final cover art?

I'm hoping for more qlippoth. Definitely need more qlippoth. And plant creatures, can't forget those.

Well the leshy are plant creatures and I am sure we will get more then that.

Please give the new dragon type at least a page of background. There's so much stat block that usually the new dragons have zero personality, and I never end up using them. What makes these new dragons different besides a few combat tricks and alternate spell like abilities? The last batch in bestiary four was particularly frustrating: I loved the idea of Outer Dragons but all I got was more monsters with the dragon label. I would rather have had the same amount of space dedicated to background on these guys and just had a page or two reskinning old dragons to fit this great new idea.

I have every confidence Paizo can blow me away; your single-page guides to outsider types do this job brilliantly. I'd just would like dragons to get the same love, so they're worth more than a second glance.

They have art for the dream dragon on the blog they just posted.

EEEE ITS FINALLY HAPPENING.

I am so psyched for this.

Is the "caller in darkness" a lovecraftian creature?

The caller in darkness is from the 3.0 Psionics Handbook, which makes it OGL. It's a gestalt undead made of dozens of wailing souls.

Hmm, the manasaputra I believe are related to Vedic (ancient Indian) lore...Brahma was supposed to have created ten sons from his mind, rather than from his body, which were called Mānas Putras, or mind-sons or spirits, though I saw somewhere else translate them as 'wish-born-sons'. Sounds like we might have some psychic outsiders that bear some resemblance to divine tulpas? Not sure about the sahkil, though a little searching around had it as Mayan for 'fear'? Not completely sure about that one, though.

Looks like dream dragons are one of several esoteric dragons? I'm guessing astral and ethereal will be represented as well...

Looking forward to this one!

I would also say that astral and ethereal are possible types of esoteric dragons. But I wonder what the rest could be, a positive energy plane, first world, etc. We already have a time dragon though maybe spirit, esper/psychic, or chakra.

I would also say that astral and ethereal are possible types of esoteric dragons. But I wonder what the rest could be, a positive energy plane, first world, etc. We already have a time dragon though maybe spirit, esper/psychic, or chakra.

I'm guessing an akashic dragon could be a possibility too.

I wonder if there will be overlap with Occult Bestiary.

very very very interested to see what the grim reaper is all about

Akashic dragon is a possibility.

I hope there will 5-10 0HD races in there, new and/or reprints.

I wonder if there will be overlap with Occult Bestiary.

Doubtful. None of the monsters from the Inner Sea Bestiary have yet to be repeated elsewhere. I doubt they would release two dedicated bestiaries within a year of each other with the same monsters.

Well there is a chance that this book will have overlap with the Inner Sea Bestiary. I doubt it but there is a chance.

very very very interested to see what the grim reaper is all about

It was in an adventure path volume, Pathfinder Adventure Path #48: Shadows of Gallowspire if you want a closer look.

how long do think it will take before the "wishlist Bestiary 6" thread to pop up

If it does hopefully they will delete it or combine with the B5 wish list.

It's too early, and honestly it would be easier to just keep the current wishlist going, and modify the list someone has been compiling...

I never quite got the idea behind a wishlist for a "next" book when we don't know what's going to be in the "current" book yet.

Starsunder wrote:

very very very interested to see what the grim reaper is all about

It was in an adventure path volume, Pathfinder Adventure Path #48: Shadows of Gallowspire if you want a closer look.

Click to look closer...

^_^

I never made a wish list for a bestiary before the current is even out yet.

Marco Massoudi wrote:

Is the "caller in darkness" a lovecraftian creature?

The caller in darkness is from the 3.0 Psionics Handbook, which makes it OGL. It's a gestalt undead made of dozens of wailing souls.

Lovecraft may not have created it, but the description of the critter is right up his alley -- and from bios I've read, Lovecraft was not a purist where his "Yog-Sothothery" was concerned. He would have been the first person to tell you to slot that baby into a Mythos tale post-haste. :)

Funny that the entire description here is everything I put into the what-I-don't-want-in-bestiary-5.

Spare for the leshies.

Most seem to be focusing on the aliens, lovecraft, robots, familiars, templates and space creatures, while they were also in bestiary 4.

Really hope that isn't the theme again.

Also the psychic monsters from Psionic D&D handbook are exactly the monsters I didn't like in there lol, Pthisic would be out I presume.

Really hope Ravid finally gets it deserved spot.

None of my mythology creatures are mentioned, still probably end up in there somewhere, but some mention before November would be cool.

Really hope the cover changes (but i'm 99% positive it will as it's old artwork) and the artwork for Grim Reaper must also change, i'm mostly fan of Grim Reapers, but that gothic artwork in one of those books is not really a grim reaper, more a gothic horror.

Really curious how much of my biggest wishes this book contains.

Really hope it are more than in Bestiary 4 who had: Abaia / Almiraj / Alp-Luachra / Buggane / Erlking / Fossegrim / Harionago / Hyakume / Karkinoi / Lampad / Leanan Sidhe / Soulsliver / Cactus-folk / Tikbalang / Tooth Fairy / Other-art for Vouivre from my wishlist.

Also hope on 4 interesting Dinosaurs (therizinosaurus with art) and some megafauna!

Also hope the Raiju, Ammut and Sha (Set Animal) make it from the AP bestiaries.

I wonder if there will be overlap with Occult Bestiary.

I doubt Overlap, but I'm pretty sure our old friends the caller in darkness, brain mole, and thought eater will be using mechanics from Occult adventures hardcover.

(Since Paizo had to re-invent the psionic wheel :P)

I hope that is not the final cover art. I like how the covers are for the other bestiary with 3 types of monsters, at least one type is found in numbers.

It's definitely not - not just because it's too early, but because it's already a forum avatar. Ask Kaouse or DrDeth. ^_^

EDIT: Did a little search. The cover art is the danse macabre from AP #11.

I'm guessing this book will show robots, aliens and some devil lord on the cover.

Devil because all the AP's are about devils, and lords do well with many people.

Robots because they sell.

Aliens because they sell.

Maybe the Grim Reaper too, because he's kinda on the cover now, so maybe a hint.

Spare for the Grim Reaper, I hope i'm totally wrong.

caller in darkness, thought eater, and the bizarre brain mole

Somebody else hopes these creatures are changed extremly from their D&D roots? I really hope the Brain Mole isn't just a clone of the D&D version. Same with Thought Eater.

I think the fact that the product description explicitly says that the grim reaper is in there is a pretty strong clue as to its presence. ^_^

I think the fact that the product description explicitly says that the grim reaper is in there is a pretty strong clue as to its presence. ^_^

I know it's in there, I just think he's on the cover too from the real bestiary 5 cover.

Together with maybe the flying monkeys, robots and greys.

Hope the Leshies are the Cactus Leshy and the Venusflytrap Leshy. :-p

And a leshy that presents the real leshy from myths.

I see. That makes more sense. ^_^

I hope the final cover has an alien(Gray), a robot, and ether the thought eater or the brain mole. Though the flying monkeys would also be cool for the cover.

I hope the final cover as an alien, a robot, and ether the thought eater or the brain mole.

So everything that hurts me is good enough I see.

I love you too.

Damn, normally I would have been much more exsited for another bestiary, but the description and my horrible visions kinda spoil that feeling, making me think this will be my least favorite bestiary.

Unfortunately it seems I also am most looking forward to things you want the least. Sorry buddy, there will be more bestiaries.

Hopefully they keep the pattern of releasing one every two years.

So what do you guys want the final cover too look like?

I hope we finally get an updated Cabal Devil....0-O

I hope we finally get an updated Cabal Devil....0-O

I concur. Cabal devils are a wonderful concept not enough employed

Valantrix1 wrote:

Starsunder wrote:

very very very interested to see what the grim reaper is all about

It was in an adventure path volume, Pathfinder Adventure Path #48: Shadows of Gallowspire if you want a closer look.

Click to look closer...

^_^

oh nice! thanks guys

I heard that the book will 15% psychic creatures so around 45-50 monsters. Hopefully we will get a psychic 0HD race or two.

I spotted that in another thread it looks like there's going to be a 0HD Darkfolk and a 0HD Sasquatch-type.

For the love of Cayden Caidean please tell me we are getting new proteans?

I hope we get a couple more huge monstrous humanoids.

Yeah I heard the same thing Lord Gadigan.

I find having a darkfolk playable race weird.

I like the idea of a sasquatch playable race, I hope it's type is monstrous humanoid.

I like the idea of a sasquatch playable race, I hope it's type is monstrous humanoid.

Pathfinder Wookiee?

I was thinking the same thing DungeonmasterCal:)

PLAYABLE DARKFOLK ? YYYEEEEEESSSSSssssssssssss

It is cool that B5 will have some new 0HD races.