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DeciusNero |
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YES! YES!
Though I'm hoping Cheliax update/expansion will occur soonafter.
Zhangar |
Huh. Cool. Guess this is happening instead of a Devils Revisited?
I'm guessing this Unleashed book will not feature a good-aligned ghost associated with Desna. Or maybe it will, and that ghost's plight is going to be horrible.
Also, can't help but grin at the title.
march through the fortress of one of Hell's god-like gatekeepers
Huh. Archduke, or regular Duke?
Man, I'm hoping we'll get an Archduke.
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James Jacobs Creative Director |
Mark Moreland Developer |
Will we get specific half-fiend (devil) templates for each core devil in this manual?
No, those appeared in Demons Revisited, and would likely appear in a similar Devils Revisited were we to do one. Rather than explore each type of devil in a general sense, this book will present specific members of different diabolic races (and some non-diabolic denizens of Hell as well) in the same manner we did for dragons and undead in their respective "Unleashed" titles.
F. Wesley Schneider Editor-in-Chief |
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Huh. Cool. Guess this is happening instead of a Devils Revisited?
I'm guessing this Unleashed book will not feature a good-aligned ghost associated with Desna. Or maybe it will, and that ghost's plight is going to be horrible.
Also, can't help but grin at the title.
Quote:march through the fortress of one of Hell's god-like gatekeepersHuh. Archduke, or regular Duke?
Man, I'm hoping we'll get an Archduke.
You're getting someone you've heard about from your grimoire readings. It's also probably one of the Infernal Dukes I've talked the most about—excluding Asmodeus and the Archdevils.
F. Wesley Schneider Editor-in-Chief |
F. Wesley Schneider Editor-in-Chief |
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I'm mildly confused as to what this will actually contain. Will it just be prestatted NPC monsters like Dragons Unleashed or something actively detailing the entire plane of Hell?
Presenting encounters similar to past unleashed projects and detailing more of Hell aren't mutually exclusive. While we're not traipsing through every layer, I expect you'll have a far better idea of how to include Hell in your game after this.
F. Wesley Schneider Editor-in-Chief |
Will we get specific half-fiend (devil) templates for each core devil in this manual?
Have we done that for any of the outsider races? I would kind of hate to lose the flexibility of the half-fiend template by saying "You're related to an X so you always have to have Y."
I think there's more magic and possibility relating to the offspring of planar beings than simple genetics.
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Luthorne |
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Berselius wrote:Will we get specific half-fiend (devil) templates for each core devil in this manual?Have we done that for any of the outsider races? I would kind of hate to lose the flexibility of the half-fiend template by saying "You're related to an X so you always have to have Y."
I think there's more magic and possibility relating to the offspring of planar beings than simple genetics.
Yes, in Demons Revisited, half-demon templates were presented for some of the main demons, which basically acted like archetypes for the half-fiend template, granting alternate spell-like abilities and usually a few other abilities to reflect the particular demon parent; that said, it did say that it doesn't always happen, though rituals can help assure the creation of a half-demon over a half-fiend, and that it might be specific to demons because of compatibility. Not that that stopped people from wanting particular half-fiend templates for devils and other such, of course.
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F. Wesley Schneider wrote:Yes, in Demons Revisited, half-demon templates were presented for some of the main demons, which basically acted like archetypes for the half-fiend template, granting alternate spell-like abilities and usually a few other abilities to reflect the particular demon parent; that said, it did say that it doesn't always happen, though rituals can help assure the creation of a half-demon over a half-fiend, and that it might be specific to demons because of compatibility. Not that that stopped people from wanting particular half-fiend templates for devils and other such, of course.Berselius wrote:Will we get specific half-fiend (devil) templates for each core devil in this manual?Have we done that for any of the outsider races? I would kind of hate to lose the flexibility of the half-fiend template by saying "You're related to an X so you always have to have Y."
I think there's more magic and possibility relating to the offspring of planar beings than simple genetics.
So noted! That sounds like a great fit for a "Devils Revisited" book down the road.
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Luthorne wrote:So noted! That sounds like a great fit for a "Devils Revisited" book down the road.F. Wesley Schneider wrote:Yes, in Demons Revisited, half-demon templates were presented for some of the main demons, which basically acted like archetypes for the half-fiend template, granting alternate spell-like abilities and usually a few other abilities to reflect the particular demon parent; that said, it did say that it doesn't always happen, though rituals can help assure the creation of a half-demon over a half-fiend, and that it might be specific to demons because of compatibility. Not that that stopped people from wanting particular half-fiend templates for devils and other such, of course.Berselius wrote:Will we get specific half-fiend (devil) templates for each core devil in this manual?Have we done that for any of the outsider races? I would kind of hate to lose the flexibility of the half-fiend template by saying "You're related to an X so you always have to have Y."
I think there's more magic and possibility relating to the offspring of planar beings than simple genetics.
Fact check: there's going to be a "Devils Revisited" published by Paizo.
And it bears the question: how far down the road?Ruyan.
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Axial wrote:This is really cool, of course, and I look forward to it. But does it mean we're not getting Devils Revisited?Your speculations will certainly reveal whether you're an optimist or a pessimist.
I wouldn't presume to deny you such insights.
Stealing this reply for all the questions about future products people ask me. Thanks, Wes!
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Hymn of Entropic Electrons |
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RuyanVe wrote:Shh.Fact check: there's going to be a "Devils Revisited" published by Paizo.
And it bears the question: how far down the road?
[Eric Cartman]Boo Wesley Schneider Boo [/Eric Cartman]
Devils are lawful and thus boring. Demons are much more chaotic and thus fun, but also evil and less fun. There should totally be a book of nothing but lovely/joyous/wonderful/transmute your thoughts to reality because reality on the Material plane is too boring and static otherwise/eatyoualiveChaos! :D
This is totally not a subtle attempt to seed ideas into you and James's minds for the future!
And I am totally not someone's Alt.
Berselius |
Devils are lawful and thus boring.
Yeah, gotta disagree with ya. Devils are the perfect enemies for adventure paths. Their patient, calculating, and devious foes who try and subvert and pervert good by working within the laws of the multiverse to ultimately warp existence to the grand plan of their ultimate overlord.
Demons are much more chaotic and thus fun, but also evil and less fun.
If anything, Devils are far more DANGEROUS than Demons. A demon is just a rampaging engine of destruction. A devil will turn allies into enemies, friends into foes, and corrupt everything around you, all with the intention of bring you and your party of adventurers to their KNEES so you'll pledge your minds, bodies, and souls to Hell.
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Demons can be equally as deceptive, manipulative and corruptive.
Indeed. While it's true that demons are all about destruction, their drive to destroy isn't limited to SMASH! Physical destruction is only part of what makes demons tick. Everything that can be destroyed must be destroyed, whether it be physical, emotional, societal, or something else entirely, and a demon's approach to this destruction can take many different forms. Manipulation, temptation, infiltration, seduction, physical violence. Whatever makes sense for the demon in any given case, and what's most fun for the demon.
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