Can anyone list what new monsters on in this volume? Thanks
Can anyone list what new monsters on in this volume? Thanks
Mummy Lord (Template)
Neshmaal (outsider)
Set Guardian (construct)
Shabti (outsider)
Thanks!
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Once people do get access to their PDFs if they're subscribers, would they be illing to spoil the "After the Campaign" section? The What-if-all-APs-fail apocalypse thread could use some more detail for Garund. Anything on the scale of Ydersius going on?
Well if the PC's fail,
So, for those who have the book, what are Hakotep's stats?
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Awesome now I kinda want us to lose
I have done my best to see that that happens. ; )
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It's one of the Continuing the Campaign options.
When Ulunat first attacked Osirion ages ago, it got empowered by a major ritual that gave it additional power and a direct link to Rovagug. This also gave it the second kaiju-sized shell that currently towers over Sothis. When Azghaad defeated Ulunat, it banished the main beast into a pocket-dimension located beneath the heart of Sothis. The secondary shell was left behind since that wasn't a permanent part of the Spawn and started getting used to house the Black Dome district.
In the continuation option, a group of Rovagug cultists manages to figure out that the beast isn't time-stopped or dead, but imprisioned in this pocket-realm and manages to free it, causing it to materialize within the Black Dome and begin an attack on Sothis. It has stats for Ulunat in its natural (non-ultra-massive, but still colossal) form, where it is CR 24.
Yes another mythological monster is gone from my list! Bye Ammmit!
Too bad no Ichneumon... if that creature isn't in this series of AP's then I will never see it... its a egyptian monster from myths, but it didn't show up...
Perfect oppertunity to create the perfect anti-dragon monster...
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Yes another mythological monster is gone from my list! Bye Ammmit!
Too bad no Ichneumon... if that creature isn't in this series of AP's then I will never see it... its a egyptian monster from myths, but it didn't show up...
Perfect oppertunity to create the perfect anti-dragon monster...
I actually got to write up the Ammut as my very first Paizo submission, and I'm really eager to see how the final version turned out. :-D
Interesting to get a new 0HD race in the last volume of an AP.
Too bad no Ichneumon... if that creature isn't in this series of AP's then I will never see it... its a egyptian monster from myths, but it didn't show up...
Perfect oppertunity to create the perfect anti-dragon monster...
Never say never. There are plenty of opportunities for more mythological creatures to see the light of day.
I actually got to write up the Ammut as my very first Paizo submission, and I'm really eager to see how the final version turned out. :-D
It's very cool, as is the artwork. Nicely done!
Never say never. There are plenty of opportunities for more mythological creatures to see the light of day.Too bad no Ichneumon... if that creature isn't in this series of AP's then I will never see it... its a egyptian monster from myths, but it didn't show up...
Perfect oppertunity to create the perfect anti-dragon monster...
Not in the robot-AP's... Those will probably not have anything to do with mythological monsters.
I've have to wait till Bestiary 5 (if that is even happening) to have a very tiny chance that Ichneumon is in, but the Egyptian bestiaries would have been the perfect place.
Not in the robot-AP's... Those will probably not have anything to do with mythological monsters.
I've have to wait till Bestiary 5 (if that is even happening) to have a very tiny chance that Ichneumon is in, but the Egyptian bestiaries would have been the perfect place.
New monsters are featured regularly in the Pathfinder Modules line as well as the Pathfinder Campaign Setting line in addition to the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game and Pathfinder Adventure Path lines that you've mentioned. Plenty of opportunities for more mythological monsters in the future. The monster you'd hoped for didn't appear in the Mummy's Mask bestiaries, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. :)
Regarding the spoiler;** spoiler omitted **
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The Shabti are interesting. I was previously on the fence about whether an Adam Warlock Pathfinder analogue would be better served as either an android or a samsaran, but the shabti seems to fit the bill just as well, if not better.
Decisions, decisions...
What is the new 0 HD race? It's not obvious from the monsters posted
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What is the new 0 HD race? It's not obvious from the monsters posted
The Shabti.
It's sort of like a cross between a construct and a samsaran. It's a magical outsider created by Osirion nobles to bear the brunt of their misdeeds after death (or rewards, but it mostly sounds like their punishments), so that their souls can go on to a better afterlife.
Kind of a mean move, really.
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What is the new 0 HD race? It's not obvious from the monsters postedThe Shabti.
It's sort of like a cross between a construct and a samsaran. It's a magical outsider created by Osirion nobles to bear the brunt of their misdeeds after death (or rewards, but it mostly sounds like their punishments), so that their souls can go on to a better afterlife.
Kind of a mean move, really.
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I need this nnnnnnnOOOOOOOOwwwwwwww......!!!!!
...i really like getting new races...
The Shabti are interesting. I was previously on the fence about whether an Adam Warlock Pathfinder analogue would be better served as either an android or a samsaran, but the shabti seems to fit the bill just as well, if not better.
Decisions, decisions...
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The post adventure material, though, is where this volume really shines. The River of Souls article is the most comprehensive study of fantasy death and afterlife that I've ever seen. Golarioverse's cycle of positive energy to soulstuff to outsiderstuff to planestuff to maelstrom energy is thoroughly explained and even has a few handy charts to help intrepid adventurers with ranks in Knowledge: Religion and Knowledge: Planes explain it to the Fighter!.
This is one of BEST reviews of this I could have hoped for. Thanks a ton man!
I was just flipping through this article yesterday and was like "How is this only 6 pages long!?" I researched, wrote, and rewrote so much on this to get it just right and assure it's a perfect launching pad for...
For what I want it to be. ;)
I think I'll put together a blog post with the River of Souls map up in the next few days. That piece is awesome and needs a good show off now that it's finally out of my notebook.
What is the new 0 HD race? It's not obvious from the monsters postedThe Shabti.
It's sort of like a cross between a construct and a samsaran. It's a magical outsider created by Osirion nobles to bear the brunt of their misdeeds after death (or rewards, but it mostly sounds like their punishments), so that their souls can go on to a better afterlife.
Kind of a mean move, really.
Niiiice!
1) What are it's racial stats and special abilities?
2) More of a question for Wes or whomever wants to answer; would Pharasma and her followers be alright with the Shabti, or would they be shouting "HERESY!" faster then the 40k Inquisition? It seems like it's sort of a way to cheat her judgement...
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+2 CON, +2 CHA
Native Outsider
Medium Size
30' Speed
60' Darkvision
Immortal (Doesn't change age categories normally, locked into the one they're designed at, can't die of old age)
Immune to Undeath (Nothing can turn them undead)
Past-Life Knowledge (All Knowledge skills are class skills)
Resist Level Drain (No penalties from energy drain unless they get more negative levels than HD, in which case they still die. Automatic recovery from all level drain after 24 hours with no saving throw needed)
Shattered Soul (Require a CL 10 + HD caster level check to resurrect, if it fails, the spell fails and the caster can't try again for 24 hours)
Suggestion 1/day as a SLA
Start with Common as a lanugage
Overall, I think they're one of the most interesting/idea-inspiring playable races I've seen pop up lately. A very good job overall on the design on 'em.
Pharasma's reaction is actually included in the entry. She *hates* when people use them to cheat judgment and sends teams to Psychopomps to hunt the people down. She sees the Shabti themselves as innocent in the process, though, and her Psychopomp teams are actually the most common way for the Shabti being released from their torments on the lower planes.
+2 CON, +2 CHA
Native Outsider
Medium Size
30' Speed
60' Darkvision
Immortal (Doesn't change age categories normally, locked into the one they're designed at, can't die of old age)
Immune to Undeath (Nothing can turn them undead)
Past-Life Knowledge (All Knowledge skills are class skills)
Resist Level Drain (No penalties from energy drain unless they get more negative levels than HD, in which case they still die. Automatic recovery from all level drain after 24 hours with no saving throw needed)
Shattered Soul (Require a CL 10 + HD caster level check to resurrect, if it fails, the spell fails and the caster can't try again for 24 hours)
Suggestion 1/day as a SLA
Start with Common as a lanugageOverall, I think they're one of the most interesting/idea-inspiring playable races I've seen pop up lately. A very good job overall on the design on 'em.
Pharasma's reaction is actually included in the entry. She *hates* when people use them to cheat judgment and sends teams to Psychopomps to hunt the people down. She sees the Shabti themselves as innocent in the process, though, and her Psychopomp teams are actually the most common way for the Shabti being released from their torments on the lower planes.
That's awesome! Can't wait to see the artwork.
That would actually be a pretty cool plotline for a Shabti character: tracking down and bringing their creator to justice if the Psychopomps can't manage for whatever reason. Also a strong reason for Shabti PCs to worship Pharasma.
Or...for evil characters, a Shabti could swear oaths of service to it's fiendish tormentors with the hopes of being granted relief. Which is great if you want to have a tragic villain.
I am sure—SURE—I have no idea what you're talking about. ;)
Ha! I remember seeing that when someone thought it might be heralding something Arcadian, and figured it would be a monster for Mummy's Mask. Never imagined it would be a 0-HD race, though.
As I said, now you've got me torn on what to do with the Adam Warlock analogue I've been tinkering with for a Guardians of Golarion style team.
Also, I echo the sentiment on the River of Souls article. I haven't had a chance to examine it in depth, but on first glance, it looked really cool and informative. It might also help in clarifying some things for a sort of "soul transmigrational" adventure idea I've had in mind for some time now that was inspired by stories of Egyptian pharaohs being buried with their servants to assist them in the afterlife.
Wait, are they releasing both volumes 5 and 6 on the 30th?
Ha! I remember seeing that when someone thought it might be heralding something Arcadian, and figured it would be a monster for Mummy's Mask. Never imagined it would be a 0-HD race, though.
Yup! There's a lot of eager will-be Arcadians out there, so any hint gets the rumor mill started.
As I said, now you've got me torn on what to do with the Adam Warlock analogue I've been tinkering with for a Guardians of Golarion style team.
Decisions, decisions. Part of the inspiration for the look of these guys was the Guardians episode of Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, which Warlock is in. And he's SUPER cool in it. Enough that I was like, oh, we need some of that in Pathfinder.
Also, I echo the sentiment on the River of Souls article. I haven't had a chance to examine it in depth, but on first glance, it looked really cool and informative. It might also help in clarifying some things for a sort of "soul transmigrational" adventure idea I've had in mind for some time now that was inspired by stories of Egyptian pharaohs being buried with their servants to assist them in the afterlife.
Sounds cool! Be sure to let us know how it goes as soon as you've got it together!
Ha! I remember seeing that when someone thought it might be heralding something Arcadian, and figured it would be a monster for Mummy's Mask. Never imagined it would be a 0-HD race, though.Yup! There's a lot of eager will-be Arcadians out there, so any hint gets the rumor mill started.
As I said, now you've got me torn on what to do with the Adam Warlock analogue I've been tinkering with for a Guardians of Golarion style team.Decisions, decisions. Part of the inspiration for the look of these guys was the Guardians episode of Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, which Warlock is in. And he's SUPER cool in it. Enough that I was like, oh, we need some of that in Pathfinder.
Also, I echo the sentiment on the River of Souls article. I haven't had a chance to examine it in depth, but on first glance, it looked really cool and informative. It might also help in clarifying some things for a sort of "soul transmigrational" adventure idea I've had in mind for some time now that was inspired by stories of Egyptian pharaohs being buried with their servants to assist them in the afterlife.Sounds cool! Be sure to let us know how it goes as soon as you've got it together!
Hi Wes! I just wanna let you know that I very much look forward to seeing this article. I've had numerous PCs die in my game, and I gave each one of them an "afterlife" scene.
*The MPD drow alchemist was brought before a Yamaraj who decided to have a Ghaele and a Glabrezu debate over where his soul went. Eventually, the Psychopomp just broke even and sent him to the maelstrom, where we joked that he is riding a Protean forever while Always by Erasure plays in the backround.
*The Dhampir Paladin of Ragathiel died and went to her patron's steel fortress in Heaven. She mingled with the celestials a bit before Ragathiel arrived; I played this while he flew in.
*The LN human bard was sent to the eternal city of Axis. He met several Lawful Neutral NPCs who had died in the campaign. There was a king who ordered the deportation of his Elven district and caused a civil war as a result, and the Axiomites forced him to live in the dungeon of his castle's replica until he understood the consequences of his poor leadership. Another NPC was a random hobgoblin soldier (the main enemies in this campaign) who had ended up in Axis due to being more LN then LE. The last thing the bard did was go for a walk on the wall of Axis, at which point he looked out to the Maelstrom and saw the aforementioned alchemist staring back at him...
On an unrelated topic, can someone who has the PDF tell me what the mummylord template does?
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Hi Wes! I just wanna let you know that I very much look forward to seeing this article. I've had numerous PCs die in my game, and I gave each one of them an "afterlife" scene.
Those sound awesome! And this article shouldn't muck with that great idea at all!
This is one of those rare articles that is very "secret history," as in very not information every commoner and guard in Golarion knows—or cleric and sage for that matter. It all also happens on a scale that involves extraplanar erosion, so it's not a process that makes any sense to measure in scales as fine as centuries.
I expect a lot of folks are going to have questions and assumptions, but the big part to get across for me is simply, don't let knowing how the system works screw with any of the awesome stuff you're already doing with it!
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This is one of those rare articles that is very "secret history," as in very not information every commoner and guard in Golarion knows—or cleric and sage for that matter. It all also happens on a scale that involves extraplanar erosion, so it's not a process that makes any sense to measure in scales as fine as centuries.
This line makes me want the 30th to come even faster. Scales rougher than centuries aren't hard to come by (millennia, mega-annae, giga-annae, etc) — but they imply a more... I suppose "Lovecraftian" would be a good word for the kind of time-scale we're looking at.
This, of course, makes me all the more curious, and makes Pharasma all the more frightening, in a way. She's not just concerned with a few piddling millennia. She's on a boat looking billions of years in either direction, knowing that every life is a drop in the stream, and every drop changes the stream's course, some more than others. And she has to be able to see how each and every soul will affect the course (and the outcome she's looking to create). Seeing how every death will affect the future has to take its toll on even the least secretive of beings, and Pharasma seems to me to play her cards so close to her chest, her hands are practically pushing through her ribcage.
Now imagine being conditioned to see that as the way you have to operate, or suddenly something changes in a way that you can't repair, that's detrimental to you — and you can't tell anyone, because mortals are stupidly fickle, and stupidly reckless, and they like to build the fate you foresee for them by trying to avoid it (ask any king in Greek mythology). One false step, and everything crumbles. One false move, and everything goes to waste. One person does the wrong thing, and all of a sudden you've lost everything you ever had or will have to a toss of the dice. She can't take that risk. Which explains why some mysteries will never be solved. Of course she'll never say what happened to Aroden; telling even one person would upset the delicate balance she's built atop his disappearance and death. It's why she's slow but decisive: Every single move has to be carefully weighed against the others. It's why undeath irks her so much: Souls that last too long can't be brought into the working, and have to be worked around — and there are so many variables at work already that throwing more on is just stress she doesn't want, need, or deserve.
...wow. I... kind of went into rant mode there.
I'm really disappointed I had to cancel my subscription. Alas needed that money for moving fees. But I plan on picking this up and jumping back on for iron gods.
Nope.** spoiler about Ulunat omitted **Huh. So I guess this retcons the Nethys/Azghaad kill, then?"Though the clans initially balked, when Azghaad, channeling the full might of Nethys, destroyed Ulunat, the Spawn of Rovagug that had terrorized Casmaron and northern Garund for hundreds of years, the clans proclaimed Azghaad their first god-king or pharaoh." ~Osirion, Legacy of Pharaohs page 4.
"The area was home to feuding nomadic tribes until Azghaad founded Sothis in the shadow of his slain foe, Ulunat, but even then many small settlements dotted the basin." ~Osirion, Legacy of Pharaohs page 38.
"With Nethys’s help, Azghaad showed his people the true meaning of power by laying low the mighty Ulunat, Spawn of Rovagug, channeling the power of Nethys through his own body to destroy the behemoth." ~Lost Kingdoms page 15.
Not to be deliberately contrary (well, I suppose I am, but I don't do it maliciously!), and I have obviously not read the article yet, but it does say Ulunat is quite specifically dead and was destroyed, not imprisoned - there isn't really any weasel wording in the terminology of either of those two books. So it actually not being slain and destroyed at all, but in fact being imprisoned instead, is a noticeable change.
Also, the statement that NONE of the Spawn has ever been killed is kind of a slap in the face to whoever killed Xotani, who requires a thousand wishes to resurrect from death.
Damn... July 30 hurry up please...
Any details on the afterlife? I don't think I can wait till the 30th.
