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![Githyanki](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/githyanki.gif)
I agree with the general sentiment that these should be released in packs alongside the AP it accompanies instead of at the very end of it. That way, people who plan on running the AP as it comes out can enjoy these as well! I know I'd pay a bit extra each month to have these thrown in with my sub.
I would rather pay a low price and get my pawns all together at the end of the AP.
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Alephtau |
![Brass Man](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PF23-05.jpg)
I much prefer for them to come out towards the end of the AP. That way if I dont plan on running the AP i might not purchase the pawns, unless of course the pawns are broad enough from a particular AP that they can be used in many others. Not really interested in a pirate AP, so prolly wont get this set, but if Paizo surprises me and i wind up liking this AP i will purchase the pawns.
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Kradlum |
![Auchs](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9033-Auchs.jpg)
I'll definitely be getting these, and any others in the pawns line. With 2 small children I don't have the money, time or space to buy, paint and store figures.
Just one question, and perhaps a suggestion: How deep is the box that the pawns come in? I'd love to have an AP box that could hold all the 6 AP issues in a series, campaign setting, players guide, flip mat, map cards, bestiary, player companion, pawns and possibly even the GameMastery cards, so I could keep everything neatly organised in one place.
I guess selling an empty box isn't something Paizo is likely to do (although I'd buy one), but selling an oversized box with the pawns could work if it didn't impact on the price (or postage) too much, as most people buying the pawns would have already invested in the AP and some accessories.
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Joana |
![Divine Crusader](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/16_DivineCrusader.jpg)
Just one question, and perhaps a suggestion: How deep is the box that the pawns come in? I'd love to have an AP box that could hold all the 6 AP issues in a series, campaign setting, players guide, flip mat, map cards, bestiary, player companion, pawns and possibly even the GameMastery cards, so I could keep everything neatly organised in one place.
IIRC, there is no box; it's just the pawn sheets shrink-wrapped.
EDIT: Erik Mona from here on the RotRL pawns:
There is no "box" to this product at all. It's five sheets of pawns with a cover "wrap" similar to the GM Screen.
Adding bases would force us to put it into a box, and would probably raise the price by at least a couple of dollars.
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![Rob McCreary](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/private/RobMcCreary.jpg)
We do sell an empty box, but it won't hold everything you want for an AP. It's just a bit too small for the AP books or the full pawn sheets, but it could still hold map packs, flip-mats, item cards, and punched out pawns for the AP.
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![Daji the Fox](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9435-Daji_90.jpeg)
We do sell an empty box, but it won't hold everything you want for an AP. It's just a bit too small for the AP books or the full pawn sheets, but it could still hold map packs, flip-mats, item cards, and punched out pawns for the AP.
I picked one of those up to hold my flip-mats - something labelled "Treasure Chest" was hard to resist for a pirate ship!
For most of my Pathfinder odds-and-ends I have a roll-around case that's large enough to take rulebooks, etc. spine-up, and still leave a lot of space for other things (character sheets in report holders, assorted really useful boxes, and several of the other Vaultz products). It's handy at a convention or similar PFS event when you might need to be able to produce a rulebook or supplement should your character be audited - that's one time when the PFSRD on a tablet isn't sufficient. A PDF would be, but I don't have everything in electronic form (yet ...), as the tablet is a recent accquisition. (It fits into the roll-around case as well).
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MJinthePitt |
![Oleg](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9521-Oleg.jpg)
I had a sister-in-law who would make some pretty nice custom boxes but when she first started out doing the process she would just use 5-pieces of (very) heavy cardstock that were duct taped together.
Cut the base to the size you want and then the four sides to the desired height. The four side pieces get taped together in a row (front and back) and then formed into the rectangle (finally taping the last two pieces together). From there the bottom ... blah blah blah ... you all see where this is going.
Repeat for the top ... slightly bigger and the sides only have to be an inch or so in height.
Plus to this, you'd be able to apply images to the cardstock from the adventure path. (Annnnnnnd, I've just decided to do this for the homebrew I'm running! Currently using the Beginner Box and I've outgrown that.)
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Ravien |
![Marcos Farabellus](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9235-Marcos.jpg)
I would have loved to buy this product, but it will be to late. My round starts this Saturday.
So I ended up buying Pathfinder Paper Minis—Skull & Shackles Adventure Path Part 1: "The Wormwood Mutiny" PDF. It is from the 3rd party publisher Crystal Clear Design.
The PDF had some errors at first, but the author did a lot of work to remove these quickly and seems very responsive in the comments section. I think the art is not the best I've seen but quite nice for miniatures.
It would probably be better if Paizo would also release its pawn collection at a "one collection per AP volume" rate with maybe a subscription or a package including all pawn collections of an AP.
So I will probably stay with the miniatures from Crystal Clear Design, to keep a single style for the AP.
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![Vic Wertz](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/private/vic_abadar_avatar.jpg)
I would have loved to buy this product, but it will be to late. My round starts this Saturday.
So I ended up buying Pathfinder Paper Minis—Skull & Shackles Adventure Path Part 1: "The Wormwood Mutiny" PDF.
To be clear there, Pathfinder Paper Minis is an officially licensed product line, so not really a 3rd party.
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Liz Courts Contributor |
![Liz Courts](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/private/LizNinja.jpg)
How will these Pawn sets differ from the Paper Minis? I am getting a tad confused between the two.
The Paper Minis are PDFs that you print out and assemble yourself, and has art done by one of our licensees. It contains all of the art necessary to run the adventure (including multiples of them in many instances).
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Steve Geddes |
![Adowyn](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO1131-Adowyn_500.jpeg)
The Paper Minis are PDFs that you print out and assemble yourself, and has art done by one of our licensees. It contains all of the art necessary to run the adventure (including multiples of them in many instances).
The Pawns are physical products, with official art from the Adventure Path, and is printed on cardstock that is pre-cut and uses the bases from the Beginner Box.
Does the omission of the bolded phrase from your overview of the pawns imply that there would be some gaps if one were to run the AP? Any idea as to roughly what proportion is going to be missing? Is it the case that those 'omitted' pawns will be those standard creatures which are available in the other more generic pawn sets?
Also, any word on when you'll be removing the phrase "...is not part of any subscription" from the product description?
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Liz Courts Contributor |
![Liz Courts](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/private/LizNinja.jpg)
Does the omission of the bolded phrase from your overview of the pawns imply that there would be some gaps if one were to run the AP? Any idea as to roughly what proportion is going to be missing? Is it the case that those 'omitted' pawns will be those standard creatures which are available in the other more generic pawn sets?
Also, any word on when you'll be removing the phrase "...is not part of any subscription" from the product description?
I'm not 100% sure if the Pawns contain everything needed for the adventures, but I'm going to poke the folks that know more about the Pawns that I do to give you some more details.
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Fredrik |
![Shield](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Plot-shield.jpg)
Off the top of my head, the RotR plastic minis include a Denizen of Leng, and the pawns do not. I know, different AP; however, I suspect that the economic constraints of physical products mean that you will always have to choose which things to make -- even if you already have the art. So, that would be the flip side of self-assembly from a PDF.
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![Vic Wertz](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/private/vic_abadar_avatar.jpg)
Does the omission of the bolded phrase from your overview of the pawns imply that there would be some gaps if one were to run the AP? Any idea as to roughly what proportion is going to be missing? Is it the case that those 'omitted' pawns will be those standard creatures which are available in the other more generic pawn sets?
I'm not sure if Erik has finalized the list yet, but our goal will be to get to you really close.
You are not likely to see really minor NPCs, especially if they don't even have an illustration, and things that are unlikely to be involved in combat will also probably not get a token. Tokens also run only from Small to Huge. Finally, we do sometimes have to make some tradeoffs when filling out the sheets.
And yes, the set is designed for use in conjunction with the Bestiary Box, so we won't generally be repeating stuff from that set unless there's a really good reason. (Two possible good reasons: if there's one copy of a pawn in the Bestiary Box, but you encounter a lot of them simultaneously here, we might need to give you more. Or if there's something unique about the look of a particular monster that makes it distinct enough from the Bestiary Box version, we might provide it here.)
I'd suggest looking at the Rise of the Runelords set to see the mix it provides... this set will be similar.
Also, any word on when you'll be removing the phrase "...is not part of any subscription" from the product description?
Don't worry—I'm sure you'll hear about it!
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AnotherHorrorFan |
I am taking the lack of official comment regarding making pawn sets for old APs besides RotRL to mean they are still in deliberations or are waiting to announce something unexpected (like a similar anniversary treatment for CotCT). It has already been said by many but I want to also state that I would buy any pawn set that comes out, quadruple especially one for Carrion Crown.
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![Vic Wertz](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/private/vic_abadar_avatar.jpg)
Instead of making us buy the PF Bestiary Box, would the actual bases be on sale separately?
We will probably have additional bases available for sale... but keep in mind that these AP sets assume you have the bases *and the tokens* from that set, and so don't generally reprint monsters from the Bestiary Box (unless you need a lot more of them, or they're specifically very different). If you skip the Bestiary Box, you'll be missing tokens for some common monsters that appear in this AP.
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Whimsy |
It would be nice if they would sell AP kits with map, NPC/monster minis, as well as NPC portraits.
Any thought about an AP accesory subscription? You could group the pawns, map folios, and maybe specific flip-mats or a new accessory for the line. You can do it bi-monthly with the flip-mat conciding with part 2 of the AP, the map folio with part 4, and the pawns with part 6. Seems like it would work well enough, but I don't know how it would affect work flow. Just a thought.
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![Githyanki](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/githyanki.gif)
I wanted this, but I received the first and second adventures in this path last month and will be running my first game on the 10th of June. I will not be buying it because the release date is too late. These should have been released at the same time as the first adventure.
The last adventure is not finished when the first one is sent to the printer. This makes producing a whole set in time for the first AP impossible.
If the sets were produced and released piecemeal it would be prohibitively expensive.
That's the gist of what Paizo have said so far about this.
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spqr202 |
Just wanted to chime in here, I love the idea for this product. I am committed to picking up every pawn box you put out, even if it is for an AP that I never plan to play. You can never have too many pawns in my opinion. I'm planning on picking up at least 2 bestiary boxes when they come out.
Can you please make one of these boxes for Kingmaker? We are all having our doubts as to whether the paper minis will ever be finished. We know they are trying their best but they aren't really delivering...
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![The Mad Priest (Ghost)](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/09Mad-Priest-Ghost.jpg)
It would be nice if they would sell AP kits with map, NPC/monster minis, as well as NPC portraits.
+1
I know this has come up in other product discussion and that many things make it impractical, but.......Please....pretty please? It would be so nice. What if you held a future AP back until complete so there is time for product support items then release all at once. Could be bundled or purchased separately.I know that if an AP I was interested in came out and already had all 6 volumes, maps, minis, item cards, npc portraits, etc and I could get it all in just one click, I would jump on it. The amount of prep time it would save me would be worth the cost. Not to mention escaping the disappointment of seeing awesome product support be released for a product I was DONE with months ago.
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Meredith Jones |
![Ghini](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/GhiniEagleye.jpg)
Just pre-ordered all the pawn boxes (Bestiary, RotRL, Shackles and NPC) as well as the beginners box from Amazon UK due to shipping costs to germany.
Just want to say that this is great. A lot cheaper than plastic minis, but better than the paper minis.
Any chance of submitting the serial number or some sort of proof of purchase and getting the PDFs somewhat cheaper?
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![Bahor (Glorio Arkona)](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/A10-Glorio-Arkona.jpg)
Something for this collection in particular - although its probably too late for consideration - How about Ship pawns at the naval combat scale???
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CalisNight |
If you're OC about your roleplaying gear, I highly recommend a zipper binder instead of a box. I have all of my pawns in 3-hole transparent card sleeves in alphabetical order. The ones that slide in horizontally are best for size medium and large, while my smalls are in a divided zip organizer that is also 3-hole punched. Huge's are a little more challenging; they fit into sleeves with 2 top facing pockets, but are a little more of a challenge to keep flat. I keep all of my bases in a plastic bag that slides into a pocket on the inside of the binder's front cover. There's no reason you couldn't keep your sets separate by AR and contain the 6 AR books as well (put in something to protect the spines from the rings, though). I use a 3 inch binder for the RotL, Bestiary, and Beginner box sets, but you could probably use a smaller binder for AR division. It's not as cheap as a box for sure, but it makes it far easier to find what you're looking for after you've punched out your pawns.
Kradlum wrote:Just one question, and perhaps a suggestion: How deep is the box that the pawns come in? I'd love to have an AP box that could hold all the 6 AP issues in a series, campaign setting, players guide, flip mat, map cards, bestiary, player companion, pawns and possibly even the GameMastery cards, so I could keep everything neatly organised in one place.IIRC, there is no box; it's just the pawn sheets shrink-wrapped.
EDIT: Erik Mona from here on the RotRL pawns:
Erik Mona wrote:There is no "box" to this product at all. It's five sheets of pawns with a cover "wrap" similar to the GM Screen.
Adding bases would force us to put it into a box, and would probably raise the price by at least a couple of dollars.
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WampaX |
![Abominable Snowmen](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/snowmanrevision1.jpg)
The list from the back
SMALL (AND SMALLER)
1. Aurumvorax
2. Dire Rat (4)
3. Grindylow (8)
4. Mandragora
5. Powderpot
6. Rat Swarm (8)
7. Reefclaw
8. Rosie Cusswell
9. Stirge (2)
10. The Eel
11. Vine Choker (2)
12. Will-o’-Wisp (3)
MEDIUM
13. Adelita Doloruso
14. Agasta Smythee
15. Alise Grogblud
16. Ambrose Kroop
17. The Ancient Mariner
18. Animate Dream
19. Arronax Endymion
20. Avimar Sorrinash
21. Barnabas Harrigan
22. Bikendi Otongu
23. Boar
24. “Caulky” Tarroon
25. Cerise Bloodmourn
26. Chelish Marine (6)
27. Cut-Throat Grok
28. Devil, Erinyes (2)
29. Druvalia Thrune
30. Ederleigh Baines
31. Elder Brykolakas (4)
32. Fargo Vitterande
33. Ghoul (3)
34. Giant Crab
35. Giant Frog
36. Gilbrok the Tongue
37. Giles Halmis
38. Gorebeard Trench
39. Gortus Svard
40. Invisible Stalker
41. Isabella Locke
42. Isawyn
43. Jakaw Razorbeak
44. Kerdak Bonefist
45. Knuckles Grype
46. Krelloort
47. Kyan Kain
48. Lady Nightshade
49. Luccaria
50. Magaav Commander
51. Master of the Gales
52. Master Scourge
53. Merrill Pegsworthy
54. “Milksop” Morton
55. Mr. Plugg
56. Omara Culverin
57. Ormandar
58. Owlbear Hartshorn
59. Pierce Jerrell
60. Pirate (8)
61. Rahadoumi Officer
62. Riaris Krine
63. Royster McCleagh
64. Sahuagin (6)
65. Sandara Quinn
66. Selissa
67. Ship’s Officer (2)
68. Tessa Fairwind
69. Tsadok Goldtooth
70. Vakarla
71. Valerande Aiger
72. Valeria Asperixus
73. Wereshark Pirate (4)
74. Whalebone Pilk
75. Zarskia Galembar
LARGE
76. Cannon Golem
77. Cyclops (5)
78. Drowning Devil (4)
79. Giant Rock Crab
80. Giant Wasp (2)
81. Horrus Riptooth
82. Hyapatia
83. The Matron
84. Paeta
85. Phase Spider (3)
86. Scrag Savage (4)
87. Screaming Satyr
88. Shaija
89. Shark (5)
90. Water Naga
91. The Whale
HUGE
92. Canopy Creeper
93. Darkforest Anemone
94. Giant Spyglass Octopus
95. Ishtoreth
96. Lightning Elemental
97. Sapphire Jellyfish
98. Shark, Great Hammerhead
99. Shark-Eating Crab (2)
100. Shrouded Queen
101. Spiny Eurypterid
102. Treant (2)
103. Triceratops (2)
Do note, There is no Sea Cat in the package, despite what the pre-production photo above shows. The monster was included in the bestiary for #56, but did not appear in any of the AP proper, which is why I would wager it was not included.
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Zesdead wrote:My pdf has the picture, so hopefully if you download again you'll have the artwork.So, had a quick check of the PDF this morning - looks great but one of the pawns has no art???
My pdf has the picture also if I view in Windows Adobe Reader. I cannot see that particular picture when viewing the same pdf on iPad.
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Ajaxis wrote:My pdf has the picture also if I view in Windows Adobe Reader. I cannot see that particular picture when viewing the same pdf on iPad.Zesdead wrote:My pdf has the picture, so hopefully if you download again you'll have the artwork.So, had a quick check of the PDF this morning - looks great but one of the pawns has no art???
I can confirm the same issue with the PDF on my iPad.