GameMastery Flip-Mat: Deep Forest

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GameMastery Flip-Mat: Deep Forest

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Defend the deep, dark woods on this sweeping tactical map depicting the verdant floor of the Deep Forest! One side features a stream winding through woods near a druidic circle, while the other depicts a woodland environment perfect for a scenic ambush.

This portable, affordable map measures 24" x 30" unfolded, and 8" x 10" folded. Its coated surface can handle any dry erase, wet erase, or even permanent marker. Usable by experienced GMs and novices alike, GameMastery Flip-Mats fit perfectly into any Game Master's arsenal!

On tabletops across the world, the Flip-Mat Revolution is changing the way players run their fantasy roleplaying games! Why take the time to sketch out ugly scenery on a smudgy plastic mat when dynamic encounters and easy clean-up is just a Flip away?

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-448-1

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Wow, that is a piece of beauty

5/5

When I unfolded the map for the first time, somebody who is in no way involved with RPGs sat next to me and commented 'Wow, that looks real pretty'

There isn't much to add. This is the single most beautiful Flip-Mat I have seen (and I have almost all of the Paizo ones and a few other). Both sides of the map look great and both sides will prove incredibly useful for all sorts of wilderness encounters.


Great Flip Mat

4/5

Very awesome general forest flip mat. Plenty of detail. I like the way the tree-tops are "cut off" so that the much more relevant tree-trunk positions are visible. Just a little bit on the dark side, but really the best forest flip-map I've seen from Paizo or anyone else in quite a while. This will replace other generic "forest" flip-mats as my go-to mat for nature encounters or events.


Love the detail. Tons of different terrain!

5/5

I love the detail on this map. The moss on the fallen tree and so many other little things pop out. Good variety in the natural features of the terrain, paths, a waterfall and a sinkhole with a fallen tree are just a few.

Both sides will see a lot of use in my Kingmaker game.


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Announced! Product image is a mockup, and will change prior to publication.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

I've updated the image to reflect the finished product.

Liberty's Edge

Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Accessories, PF Special Edition Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

Did you get a new Artist for these?

It looks good.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Dragnmoon wrote:

Did you get a new Artist for these?

It looks good.

Jason Engle replaced Corey Macourek a while ago, on both Flip-Mats and Map Packs.

Liberty's Edge

And there was much rejoicing. Still, both artists did great work overall.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Companion, Maps, Pawns, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

This is a really fantastic set. I can't wait to get them and use them.


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I gotta ask. How can this be out of print? I was hoping to get one of these for when I run The Elven Entanglement. Everywhere I look it's out of stock. How could something being used (on both sides) in a current season PFS scenario be allowed to go out of print?


No idea Soluzar. I've been looking everywhere for this as well, almost all of the outdoor ones are out of print. But we keep getting more indoor locations. It makes me sad.


Soluzar wrote:
I gotta ask. How can this be out of print? I was hoping to get one of these for when I run The Elven Entanglement. Everywhere I look it's out of stock. How could something being used (on both sides) in a current season PFS scenario be allowed to go out of print?

Much as with the APs going "out of print", I suspect the truth is there's only one printing/production run of these, so if they sell fast it exhausts the stockpile.

At that point the question has to be asked - is it selling well enough that there should be a second production run, or did it sell so well that most people that wanted it now have it, making a second run unprofitable?

That doesn't solve the issue of people still wanting it, but at the end of the day there has to be profit for it to be viable, which means running off another however-many-thousand are needed to meet the economics of printing these things.

The PDF is available, so the best option may be to get it printed somewhere that does poster-size stuff.

Grand Lodge

Soluzar wrote:
I gotta ask. How can this be out of print? I was hoping to get one of these for when I run The Elven Entanglement. Everywhere I look it's out of stock. How could something being used (on both sides) in a current season PFS scenario be allowed to go out of print?

Just because it is in a PFS product or even an Adventure path or some such by Paizo... it does not mean it is protected against going out of print. If anything it is more likely to go out of print because it is in a product.

But you can always buy the PDF and get it printed out somewhere and then laminated. It will be almost the same as the original hard copy.. not quite as it will not fold.. but almost :)

Grand Lodge

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Matt Thomason wrote:

Much as with the APs going "out of print", I suspect the truth is there's only one printing/production run of these, so if they sell fast it exhausts the stockpile.

At that point the question has to be asked - is it selling well enough that there should be a second production run, or did it sell so well that most people that wanted it now have it, making a second run unprofitable?

That doesn't solve the issue of people still wanting it, but at the end of the day there has to be profit for it to be viable, which means running off another however-many-thousand are needed to meet the economics of printing these things.

I have never known them to do a second print run of a flip mat. It has always been a single one. It is an economics thing as in if they did do a second run... will they be stuck with a stock pile of them that will not sell then? So because of that they will not do another print one that has already been printed.

Now on the other hand they have been known to do another type of the same type of flip mat. Such as yet another type of deep woods mat again. :)


PLEASE either do another print run of these (and the "normal" Forest) flip mat)!? Mine has begun to have a small hole form at one of the cross-folds, and I want to replace it. Or perhaps make a new forest/woodlands flip mat people can order/use, since both the Forest and Deep Forest flip mats are out of print? It's not like they won't sell, practically every campaign has a forest/wilderness encounter... and no one likes drawing out sh!t tons of trees on blank mats that won't ever look as good as the ones that have been released thus far.


I understand the economics behind the decision to not reprint. However, for it to be true that "everyone who wants one has one", the market needs to never grow. I'll flat out say that if the market isn't growing, you're doing it wrong. New players should always be encouraged. Creating PFS scenarios with out of print maps can be rather off-putting to a new GM that never had a chance to purchase from the initial run.


Ugh.

I really need the Deep Forest Flip Mat to complete the collection Im getting together.
I have an extra unopened mint/near mint never used copy of "KEEP" Id be willing to trade even up for a near mint copy of Deep Forest...even if its been opened and used lightly.

Anyone up for a trade?


"Mine has begun to have a small hole form at one of the cross-folds, and I want to replace it"
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I just made a carrying case for my maps so they can stay unfolded.
Its a little bulky, but frankly when Im playing a game at someone elses place Im already lugging around a lot of crap and these maps are SOO worth keeping in mint condition, so its worth any amount of trouble to keep them flat and in perfect shape.
I just used two sheets of 1/4" plywood cut a little longer than the maps, then used Gorilla Tape for the folding hinge on the bottom. Works really great for carrying them around unfolded and great for storage.


" Creating PFS scenarios with out of print maps can be rather off-putting to a new GM that never had a chance to purchase from the initial run."
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Definitely agree.
Always keep popular items coming. There are a list of old flip mats I cant get hold of that Id sell my first born for right now. Cant even find them for a reasonable price on ebay.


What would be really cool is a multi pack reprint like the new dungeon.
8 of the best flip mats put out.

Deep Forest
Keep
Country Inn
Prison
Swamp
Bandit Outpost
Pub Crawl
Town Square


I'll add my voice asking for a reprint of this flip-mat. Currently, there are NO forest/woodlands flip-mats available to buy in print.


I also would love to see this one reprinted. Please! :)

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber

Will PDF version of these maps print in full 1-inch scale or will they need to be resized before printing?

Grand Lodge

I'd like to add to the voices asking for a reprint. Six scenarios, including the Silverhex Chronicles require this map.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Maps Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

Given that this is used in one of the evergreens (The Confirmation), I want to add my request for a re-print. Please?

Dark Archive

Dennis Muldoon wrote:
Given that this is used in one of the evergreens (The Confirmation), I want to add my request for a re-print. Please?

+1 for a reprint!

I really like this map, but i fear with this coming up: Bigger Forest, we won´t get a reprint so soon as side A: "a stream winding through woods near a druidic circle" is super-similar to: "a thriving forest".

Side B: "a woodland environment perfect for a scenic ambush" is cooler than: "a blighted, dead stretch of former woodlands, which can be home to everything from monsters to outlaw archers to ancient druids" imo, but it is very similar too.

So basically Paizo whould hurt the sales of the Bigger Forest if they would put out a Classics version of deep Forest right now.

Also, with starfinder getting at least 2 initial Flip-mats, i don´t see new "Flip-mat Classics" coming out at least until october. ;-(


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Bigger Forest bumped this obviously. I've had to replace it with other maps in so many scenarios now, that I'm over it.

Dark Archive

Brother Fen wrote:
Bigger Forest bumped this obviously. I've had to replace it with other maps in so many scenarios now, that I'm over it.

Which Flip-Mat would you like to be reprinted most?


I'd still have to say that I'd buy this if it was reprinted. None of the forest or wilderness based maps have the rock outcropping and various levels that are presented in this map.

Grand Lodge

I still want... no, NEED this map. Would make my life so easy, and I'm not about to pay someone $4000 for one. That's the current price online. It's ridiculous.

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