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Voss wrote:I believe it stands for Role Playing Game as Entertainment, but I could be wrong (by a long shot).I'm assuming (hoping) that 'online RPG-E' is different from eRPG? (the e here is for erotic)
No clue what it is, though.
Boo to jargon.
You have it right. RPG-E means role playing games as entertainment!

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I'm a bit confused on how I can actually watch this. I get that it's on Twitch, but being on the wrong side of the world those times are not conducive to watch live. Are these "replays" like a rebroadcast, or will there be on-demand viewing to catch up?
Most Twitch streams can be viewed afterwards. I've actually been using youtube-dl (which works with Twitch as well) to download the Oblivion Oath videos in order to avoid buffering problems.

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It's Sir Owlbear to u wrote:You have it right. RPG-E means role playing games as entertainment!Voss wrote:I believe it stands for Role Playing Game as Entertainment, but I could be wrong (by a long shot).I'm assuming (hoping) that 'online RPG-E' is different from eRPG? (the e here is for erotic)
No clue what it is, though.
Boo to jargon.
"Role playing games as entertainment" wat.
Games as entertainment. As opposed to?
Role playing games as home improvement?
Role playing games as higher education?
Role playing games as fitness regimens?
Role playing games as medical checkups?
Role playing games as retirement plans?
Role playing games as penal sentencing?
Hooray for the series, but maybe I need to look up "game".

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Jason Bulmahn wrote:It's Sir Owlbear to u wrote:You have it right. RPG-E means role playing games as entertainment!Voss wrote:I believe it stands for Role Playing Game as Entertainment, but I could be wrong (by a long shot).I'm assuming (hoping) that 'online RPG-E' is different from eRPG? (the e here is for erotic)
No clue what it is, though.
Boo to jargon."Role playing games as entertainment" wat.
Games as entertainment. As opposed to?
Role playing games as home improvement?
Role playing games as higher education?
Role playing games as fitness regimens?
Role playing games as medical checkups?
Role playing games as retirement plans?
Role playing games as penal sentencing?
Hooray for the series, but maybe I need to look up "game".
Entertainment for *other people*, ie an audience. Rather than for yourselves.

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Jason Bulmahn wrote:It's Sir Owlbear to u wrote:You have it right. RPG-E means role playing games as entertainment!Voss wrote:I believe it stands for Role Playing Game as Entertainment, but I could be wrong (by a long shot).I'm assuming (hoping) that 'online RPG-E' is different from eRPG? (the e here is for erotic)
No clue what it is, though.
Boo to jargon."Role playing games as entertainment" wat.
Games as entertainment. As opposed to?
Role playing games as home improvement?
Role playing games as higher education?
Role playing games as fitness regimens?
Role playing games as medical checkups?
Role playing games as retirement plans?
Role playing games as penal sentencing?
Hooray for the series, but maybe I need to look up "game".
Reminds me when Bennigans restaurant chain adopted as their slogan "food and fun for people." I was previously unaware that so many competing chains were serving animals or aliens.

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Artificial 20 wrote:The unspoken word there is public entertainment."Role playing games as entertainment" wat.
Games as entertainment. As opposed to?
A fair point, but putting it on a public website designed for sharing is quite hard to misinterpret.
Anyway, I hope the role playing game as entertainment that's fun to enjoy (low fat) pleases the public.

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Reminds me when Bennigans restaurant chain adopted as their slogan "food and fun for people." I was previously unaware that so many competing chains were serving animals or aliens.
Or Robots.
"Come to 'Zom Zom's'
a place to eat
like it was built
in one day
you can watch the humans
trying to run"

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Or, to put it simply - if I want to watch a group of people playing a game I can wander into any gaming location or no doubt there are plenty already online. Yet the post seems full of the assumption that I should be excited that *this* group of people are playing a game, going to moderate lengths to tell me about them. What is so special about them?

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Or, to put it simply - if I want to watch a group of people playing a game I can wander into any gaming location or no doubt there are plenty already online. Yet the post seems full of the assumption that I should be excited that *this* group of people are playing a game, going to moderate lengths to tell me about them. What is so special about them?
Geek and Sundry is pretty famous even if you haven't heard of them. Setting aside other things they do, they produce Critical Role, the most famous tabletop liveplay (to the tune of getting an $11,000,000 Kickstarter). Actors are generally going to be more engaging to watch than random gaming location folks, and unless Paizo really dropped the ball, Pathfinder is easier to pick up than acting.

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Geek and Sundry is pretty famous even if you haven't heard of them. Setting aside other things they do, they produce Critical Role, the most famous tabletop liveplay (to the tune of getting an $11,000,000 Kickstarter). Actors are generally going to be more engaging to watch than random gaming location folks, and unless Paizo really dropped the ball, Pathfinder is easier to pick up than acting.
Then wouldn’t jf have been great if the blogpost had sais something like “if you don’t know, these guys are entertaining roleplayers who are experts at turning a gaming session into a great experience for the viewers”, rather than telling me that one guy was once in a commercial that was shown during a sporting event?

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I suppose there are some fundamental, underlying assumptions that if you can view a blog via web browser, and post in a forum that one can do a quick search on anything in said blog to fill the gaps in one's knowledge. Or even that one is personable enough to ask a question in a way that other human beings would feel compelled to respond to in a personable way.

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Rysky wrote:You tell wrong. Like a lot.
Also I highly doubt you’ve never heard of Critical Role before.
As for “this blog did not explain anything”:
First part of the blog wrote:So maybe try reading the actual blog before tossing insults just to be edgy?Paizo has teamed up with our friends at Geek and Sundry to produce an 8-episode series for Pathfinder Second Edition!
“Five strangers board a caravan heading to Lastwall, an ancient kingdom watching over the grave of a long dead menace. Signed up as conscripts in the army, they face years of training and service, but as smoke begins to rise from the horizon they must come together as friends if they are to have any chance at survival.”
Game Master Jason Bulmahn leads an amazing cast of adventurers into the heart of darkness every Tuesday from 4-7 p. Pacific. Your #KnightsOfEverflame are:
I read the blogpost thoroughly. Among the things it failed to explain were:
* who or what is Geek and Sundry?
* what is their relationship with Paizo?
* why have Paizo selected them for this promotion?
* what this promotion is meant to bring to the viewer? Rules insight? Lore secrets?
* Why a group of jobbing actors and podcasters are the best people to achieve whatever it is that this is attempting to achieve? We got a lot of info about their CV and nothing about their experience of Pathfinder or Pathfinder 2nd ed.
* What exactly they will be doing in these videos that is so special that they merit the title “cast” rather than “players”. Assuming they are playing a game. Which is not explicitly stated.
Geek & Sundry is a massive multi-million dollar entertainment company started by Felicia Day with emphasis on Nerd Culture. They have had several actual play roleplaying streams the last few years. Notably they launched Critical Role several years ago, which in turn became even bigger than they expected and split off into its own company. If you hadn't heard of Geek & Sundry before, I'm a bit surprised, but understand that twitch media isn't for everyone.
Their relationship with Paizo is that as previously stated, they are a massive Nerd Culture entertainment company with several hit roleplaying games, and friends throughout the industry. Most of their recent live plays, including Critical Role, have been DND 5E, so introducing fans to a new edition of Pathfinder is something new and different for them, and a big win for Paizo.
What this promotion brings to the viewer is an audience that is already interested in Role Playing Games but maybe not knowledgeable about Pathfinder. It will be thousands of people's introduction to the game and will be a glimpse into how the new ruleset works for those of us familiar with 1E.
Nearly everyone in the world has the same experience with Pathfinder 2E, which is to say, none. A handful of us have our books from early shipping, but most of us won't see the rules until Thursday. What actors bring that regular players may not, is a different skill set, where they can portray a character better than most casual roleplayers. Pretending to be other people is literally their job, and they're quite good at it.

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Thank you Cori Marie for taking the time to explain. I was previously unaware of G&S, or anything like them, but then I only have the vaguest idea of what “Twitch” is. I must admit that I have been dismayed by the tendency I have seen from Paizo and others to move away from simple text to long rambling videos that take an hour to convey what I could read in 3 minutes, but obviously this is popular and becoming commonplace.

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Thank you Cori Marie for taking the time to explain. I was previously unaware of G&S, or anything like them, but then I only have the vaguest idea of what “Twitch” is. I must admit that I have been dismayed by the tendency I have seen from Paizo and others to move away from simple text to long rambling videos that take an hour to convey what I could read in 3 minutes, but obviously this is popular and becoming commonplace.
We are not moving away from text. We have over 1,000 pages of Pathfinder Second Edition text coming out in 4 days. The "long rambling videos" are in addition to what you seem to want. It doesn't take anything away from your experience for us or any other entity to cater to different audiences in different ways, nor to take advantage of burgeoning marketing venues, entertainment outlets, and thriving online communities.
Many people are excited by this partnership and the full 24 hours of entertainment it will provide during the 8-episode run. If it's not your bag, that's cool, but let's try to keep the discussion positive rather than raining on the parades of everyone who might have different tastes than your own.
Thanks!

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waynemarkstubbs wrote:Thank you Cori Marie for taking the time to explain. I was previously unaware of G&S, or anything like them, but then I only have the vaguest idea of what “Twitch” is. I must admit that I have been dismayed by the tendency I have seen from Paizo and others to move away from simple text to long rambling videos that take an hour to convey what I could read in 3 minutes, but obviously this is popular and becoming commonplace.We are not moving away from text. We have over 1,000 pages of Pathfinder Second Edition text coming out in 4 days. The "long rambling videos" are in addition to what you seem to want. It doesn't take anything away from your experience for us or any other entity to cater to different audiences in different ways, nor to take advantage of burgeoning marketing venues, entertainment outlets, and thriving online communities.
Not to mention things like Paizo Blogs and your participation here. :)
A lot of cool stuff came out in the previous Blog entries.

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Patrick Newcarry wrote:wait, how tall are you Jason? You're towering over everyone else in that photo.I'm 6 foot, 7 inches tall. We were all standing I'm afraid. The photographer even asked if I could duck down a bit.
I'm sorry but WHAT?!?!
I've only ever seen you sitting down behind a GM screen or doing lore interviews! I had no idea you were 6 foot 7 inches! You just blew my mind!