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A question regarding the not-retirement of the Scarab Sages:
If a character wants to transfer to another faction, will they still be able to keep their Scarab Sage faction cards and the rewards on them (without filling in more boxes)?
A Scarab Sages faction PC who switches to a different faction can keep his Faction Journal Cards and the earned rewards. However, he cannot check any further goals or earn more rewards on those cards.
This is our first time retiring/deactivating a faction since introducing the Faction Journal Card mechanic, and this seems like the most reasonable resolution—particularly because there's a Scarab Sages boon in a scenario that relies on one's number of Faction Journal Card goals accomplished.
Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden
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A question regarding the not-retirement of the Scarab Sages:
If a character wants to transfer to another faction, will they still be able to keep their Scarab Sage faction cards and the rewards on them (without filling in more boxes)?A Scarab Sages faction PC who switches to a different faction can keep his Faction Journal Cards and the earned rewards. However, he cannot check any further goals or earn more rewards on those cards.
This is our first time retiring/deactivating a faction since introducing the Faction Journal Card mechanic, and this seems like the most reasonable resolution—particularly because there's a Scarab Sages boon in a scenario that relies on one's number of Faction Journal Card goals accomplished.
I'm very happy about this solution. I'd promised people (including Tineke) a chance to do the whole Sages thing from beginning to end, this makes it a lot easier to make it on time.
The blog doesn't mention the converse though: switching into the Concordance. Do people who go into the Concordance from other factions (say, the Exchange with Master of Trade, to name one of the juiciest perks that we'll wonder about) keep their old faction perks?
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Is this change going to have any effect on the "end of July" deadline to benefit from the Salvation of the Sages boon mentioned here?
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Great news about Scarab Sages. It means my Investigator doesn’t need to be reckless in Salvation of the Sages in an attempt to earn his Risen title. :)
My most recent Sages character will probably still switch to the Concordance, since he’s barely 2nd level (2.1) and elemental energy based.
But I like this idea of keeping the faction around but inactive. My Seeker who has been Osirion/Scarab Sages since my first PFS session appreciates not needing to form a new allegiance late in life. He is Ferious Thune the Constant, after all.
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I want to add my name to the list of people thanking you for the adjustments made to the Scarab Sages. I only play a couple of times a year and this change means that my Scarab Sage character will have the opportunity to gain the full experience of the faction's "retirement" arc as a member of the faction.
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Venture-Captain, Minnesota
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The blog doesn't mention the converse though: switching into the Concordance. Do people who go into the Concordance from other factions (say, the Exchange with Master of Trade, to name one of the juiciest perks that we'll wonder about) keep their old faction perks?
This is my question as well. My level 8 bard, Cup, has two nearly full faction cards for Dark Archives. She’s done exceptional work for Zarta Dralneen. However, her number one goal is to travel the planes. She loves the Concordance! She will join them at the first opportunity even if she has to leave behind all her achievements with her current faction.
Still... It would be absolutely lovely if Zarta could give Cup her blessing, and allow her to keep the faction card checkoffs and boons she already has. I am hoping that there will be some consideration for us high-level characters who answer the Concordance’s call.
Hmm
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So I think the phrasing of a bit is odd.
You must change by August 2nd or when you next play, whichever is later.
This seems to be saying that if I played next week I could still change my guy since it's still before August 2nd. Is this true and intended? That I can play as SS as much as I want and still change for free on August 1st?
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So I think the phrasing of a bit is odd.
You must change by August 2nd or when you next play, whichever is later.
This seems to be saying that if I played next week I could still change my guy since it's still before August 2nd. Is this true and intended? That I can play as SS as much as I want and still change for free on August 1st?
Yes, that's correct. It's essential that a Scarab Sages PC be able to continue playing through the end of the season if they're to have a fair chance at finishing off the story content. Once the season's over though (including for a PC someone might not play more than once a year), it's time to make a final decision: stay with the faction (important for some folks) or join someone else.
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Yes, that's correct. It's essential that a Scarab Sages PC be able to continue playing through the end of the season if they're to have a fair chance at finishing off the story content. Once the season's over though (including for a PC someone might not play more than once a year), it's time to make a final decision: stay with the faction (important for some folks) or join someone else.So I think the phrasing of a bit is odd.
You must change by August 2nd or when you next play, whichever is later.
This seems to be saying that if I played next week I could still change my guy since it's still before August 2nd. Is this true and intended? That I can play as SS as much as I want and still change for free on August 1st?
follow up. If I play next week that will be my next time playing thus if I don't switch then and then I don't play them again until after august 2nd deadline I'm unable to swap. Is this correct?
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Venture-Agent, Oregon—Portland
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No idea why my post above got scrambled, but I'll try again.
I'd like to add my thanks for softening the removal of the Scarab Sages. I haven't yet had a chance to play any Sage storylines, and I'd rather keep my character a Sage to try to increase my chances of getting into one of them sometime. I haven't been able to do much with the faction cards anyway.
Venture-Captain, Ohio—Columbus
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Thanks for continuing the RSP. And an especially big thanks for letting people keep working toward the Skinwalker boon. We are going to have a lot of happy GMs in my area.
Paperwork question, however: will existing locations need to “re-apply” to participate in the program for the new year?
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This is our first time retiring/deactivating a faction since introducing the Faction Journal Card mechanic, and this seems like the most reasonable resolution—particularly because there's a Scarab Sages boon in a scenario that relies on one's number of Faction Journal Card goals accomplished.
That boon is still impossible to acquire for any character with only one Journal Card (such as started in Season 9, or didn't acquire a card before Season 9).
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This is our first time retiring/deactivating a faction since introducing the Faction Journal Card mechanic, and this seems like the most reasonable resolution—particularly because there's a Scarab Sages boon in a scenario that relies on one's number of Faction Journal Card goals accomplished.That boon is still impossible to acquire for any character with only one Journal Card (such as started in Season 9, or didn't acquire a card before Season 9).
This is going to be me- stuck at 9, having accomplished all the Season 9 goals and forever locked out of the capping goal for the only Scarab Sage I'll ever get to play because I started at GenCon last year.
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It is directly in response to that deadline and community discussion of it.
Ok, no disrespect, but this doesn't answer my question. Baring in mind that I haven't seen the chronicle, and obviously won't prior to playing the adventure, I don't know if the extending of the faction has any effect on John's statement that we "have until the end of July" to get the boon. Does this mean that the bonus, whatever it is, is still earnable into Year 10 and beyond?
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any effect on John's statement that we "have until the end of July" to get the boon.
I think John's statement was intended to convey that everyone still has until July to earn the boon, and still get a free faction change, as originally intended. Essentially, that this change to inactive instead of retired, now instead of later, does not impact that option for those who aren't interested in staying Scarab Sages.
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Thank you very much for taking our input on the Scarab Sages retirement and creating a policy that I think is much, much better! Also, thank you for extending the ability to check boxes on the 2017 RSP GM boon - there are several GMs in my Lodge who will like that very much.
I see several requests for clarification on how the mechanics of the Scarab Sage ruling works and I would like to add my own. From what I understand in reading what has already been said, you can change your Scarab Sages character to a new faction for 0 PP cost at any time. Once the season is over, the first time you play the character, you must choose whether you stay in the inactive faction or change to a new one and this change still costs 0 PP. If you decide to stay in the inactive Scarab Sages faction, you may continue to check remaining boxes on your existing faction cards, purchase vanities, etc. If you change factions, you keep what you already have but may not gain new benefits. My question is: If you stay in the inactive faction, do you lose the chance for a 0 PP faction change? (I anticipate that the answer is yes and I'm okay with that - I think it is a fair trade for the chance to continue to check boxes beyond the faction going inactive.)
