Mid-Season Faction Updates

Wednesday, December 13, 2017

Despite their intended role as a secondary feature, there's no doubt that factions have become a central component of Pathfinder Society Roleplaying Guild—so much so that we made them a key fixture of the overarching narrative in Season 9, the Year of Factions' Favor. This season's a time for us to explore these factions' ongoing stories, and as is true for any story, the characters grow, change, and sometimes disappear entirely. In the past, we've handled most of these changes at the beginning of a new season. Not so in Season 9. We've been working toward a mid-season update in our storyline for some time, and I'd like to share three major developments with you.

Liberty's Edge

Back in July 2017 we launched the Leaders in Liberty contest, inviting you to send us a backstory for a rising star in the Liberty's Edge faction. We were blown away by the submissions and posted our top five for you to vote for your favorite. With your help and that of the winning contestant Sam Sampson, we formally introduced Karisa Starsight into the campaign. Most recently we shared that Liberty's Edge was in need of an interim leader, with the two leading candidates being Karisa Starsight and the halfling Tamrin Credence. Once again, you the public cast your votes and selected Tamrin Credence!

Three things in particular struck me over the course of these contests. First, these are a lot of fun, and I'm interested in exploring ways to include more contests in the future. Second, the voting between Karisa and Tamrin was quite close, showing that both of these figures really gained traction with sizeable portions of the audience. Third, the commentary (in-character and out) in the discussion threads provided a great insight into why each of the candidates resonated and what you hoped to see in the future. What was one of the most common suggestions? Co-leadership. Although I anticipate Tamrin will be the leader of the Liberty's Edge faction, it's clear that Karisa should play an active role going forward (much as Aaqir al'Hakam and Guaril Karela share management despite the former being the final arbiter).

Illustration by Kenneth Camaro

Either way, expect to see the next installation of the Liberty's Edge story in May at PaizoCon 2018!

Scarab Sages

The Scarab Sages came into being almost four years ago, formally replacing the old Osirion faction in mid-2014. The premise was pretty simple: recover a host of gemstone artifacts that store the memories of long-dead sages, recruit strong minds to host these memories, and revive the ancient order of Jeweled Sages. Ever since the Destiny of the Sands series in Season 5, PCs have exceled at doing just that, and I have no doubt that we could continue doing so for another four years. While some of our narratives benefit from such extended arcs, we decided that the Scarab Sages' story would be strongest with a decisive end. How it ends—whether the Jeweled Sages thrive as an ally of the Society or whether they fade into obscurity—depends on you. Matt Duval played such an instrumental role in writing earlier Scarab Sages scenarios that I invited him back to bring things to a close in Pathfinder Society Scenario #9-07: Salvation of the Sages. Be sure to check those reporting checkboxes—our hope is to have a canonical outcome by the end of Season 9.

So what does this mean for the future? At the end of Season 9, the Scarab Sages faction retires, and current members will need to change to a different faction. As noted on page 28 of the current Pathfinder Society Roleplaying Guild Guide, "any characters affected by faction retirement can retain any faction-based benefits but can't purchase new items specific to the retired faction. Such characters must choose a new faction at no cost prior to receiving credit for any further scenarios." In addition, members of the Scarab Sages faction will keep any benefits earned on Scarab Sages Faction Journal Cards, but once the faction's retired, they won't be able to fulfill further goals.

In the meantime, I encourage you to experience the Scarab Sages storyline in full in case you've missed a few adventures. Keep in mind that the Scarab Sages was also the first faction whose storyline we incorporated directly into the Pathfinder Adventure Card Guild, specifically in Season 3, the Season of Plundered Tombs. In chronological order, these are:

  • Pathfinder Society Scenario #5-12: Destiny of the Sands, Part 1: A Bitter Bargain (Tier 1-5)
  • Pathfinder Society Scenario #5-15: Destiny of the Sands, Part 2: Race to Seeker's Folly (Tier 1-5)
  • Pathfinder Society Scenario #5-16: Destiny of the Sands, Part 3: Sanctum of the Sages (Tier 3-7)
  • Pathfinder Society Scenario #6-04: Beacon Below (Tier 7-11)
  • Pathfinder Society Scenario #6-19: Test of Tar Kuata (Tier 3-7)
  • Pathfinder Society Scenario #7-04: The Ironbound Schism (Tier 7-11)
  • Pathfinder Society Scenario #7-11: Ancients' Anguish (Tier 7-11)
  • Pathfinder Society Adventure Card Guild, Season 3 (Especially #3-3: In Search of a Sage and #3-4: Tomb of the Godless Host)
  • Pathfinder Society Scenario #8-17: Refugees of the Weary Sky (Tier 7-11)
  • Pathfinder Society Scenario #9-04: The Unseen Inclusion (Tier 1-5)
  • Pathfinder Society Scenario #9-07: Salvation of the Sages (Tier 7-11)

So that might leave a few of your characters in need of a new faction. Sounds like you'd appreciate a new option, right?

The Concordance of Elements

Pathfinder Society's factions cover a huge range of character concepts quite nicely, particularly for PCs who are interested in history, knowledge, and exploration. That said, the campaign's always struggled to accommodate one particular class: druids. I've struggled with this issue, as on most days the Pathfinder Society's interest in nature boils down to "that thing full of brambles and mud that we cross to reach the abandoned temple." Sure, the Society has its share of botanists, zoologists, and ecologically minded adventurers, yet that's not something that lends itself to sustainable storytelling. On top of that, there are already enough druid circles in the setting that we didn't want to add just one more to the multitude. No, we wanted something that we could make our own and have it stand out.

As we were planning out Season 8, we realized we had an excellent opportunity to introduce just such a group, an extraplanar operation known as the Concordance of Elements (or just the Concordance for short). The Concordance isn't your typical "nature for nature's sake" druid faction. Instead, it seeks out elemental imbalances, planar breaches, and extraordinary natural phenomena to close breaches, reestablish natural order, and study the multiverse in all its splendor. To fail in this is to allow rampant growth to choke out all life, stand by as one plane's power snuffs out the life of another, or watch as the cosmos spins out of alignment. While there are plenty of ways in which this fulfills the classic Nature Character's desires, I think you'll find that the Concordance tends to slap druids and fey on the wrist with some regularity. We're excited to announce the Concordance faction, and a blog by Linda Zayas-Palmer should appear on paizo.com a little later talking about the Concordance in more detail.

In the meantime, know that we'll be making the faction a playable option early in 2018, complete with new faction traits, a new Faction Journal Card, and a faction-related scenario due out in February. As has been the case with the introduction of other factions, characters will have the option to switch to the Concordance without spending any Prestige Points.

John Compton
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Scarab Sages ***

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First they took Shadow Lodge from me, but that was ok, I was fairly new and joined Osirian.
Then they took Osirian from me, but that was mostly ok, because the Scarab Sages seemed like an interesting long-term commitment...
...and now... I'd protest, but I'm a tiefling, so it's not like we have the numbers for a vote even if we were like Liberty's Edge.

... this must be my karma for the use of the misfortune hex

Scarab Sages ***** Venture-Captain, Washington—Spokane

Season 4 saw the end of both the Shadow Lodge and the Lantern Lodge (mine and my son's favorite faction). Season 9 will see the end of another of my favorites in the Scarab Sages (Now I am excited to run and play 9-07 more than when I started prepping it when it was released).

I am excited about the introduction of the Concordance as, based on the information provided so far, it seems as though the Scarab Sages is evolving and not really retiring so to speak (I could be wrong).

Now to contemplate, which of my characters may be switching to the Concordance or preparing to join them next year. Looking forward to see where the campaign goes in the coming year.

Sovereign Court

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This is really upsetting, to be honest. :(

I guess I'll have to hope for a "Spirit of the Scarab Sages" boon so I can properly play the character I built specifically for this faction and spent one of my race boons on.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My first real character was a scarab sage! GOOD BYE SCARAB SAGES! I SHALL MISS THEE!

*CRIES*


Well, darn. I still haven't had a chance to play *any* of the Scarab Sages storyline with my Sage character. She'll probably fit in with the Concordance fine, though.

So here's one question not specifically answered in the guide or the FAQs: If you're forced to choose a new faction, do you get to pick one of your new faction's traits for free?

Shadow Lodge *****

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And lo did another excellent faction fall to the wayside...

The Exchange ***** Venture-Agent, North Carolina—Charlotte aka eddv

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I have been begging for a nature themed faction for a long long time but to come at the expense of the Scarab Sages is really painful. It does overlap in focus with the Dark Archives though I admit.

Maybe the Shadow Lodge can return based on how events unfold canonically for 9-07...?!

Dark Archive ***

Any options to jump into the new faction (even a reduced PP cost)? I have a sky druid sylph that is screaming out to jump ship across. If not then i have some maths to start on....
attempts to read better, nice was not about for any of the new ones coming in...

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I have a couple of Scarab Sages and while I'm not happy to see the faction gone I hope they get better closure than what happened to the Shadow Lodge... hell, while reading I almost hoped for a return of the Shadow Lodge, but it seems that boat has truly sailed after all.

On the other hand I'm happy to see an halfling as Faction Leader. Considering the setting it makes sense for one to be at the head of Liberty's Edge. Besides Pathfinder's Society needs more demihumans (dwarves especially!).

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ShadowsOverScotland wrote:

Any options to jump into the new faction (even a reduced PP cost)? I have a sky druid sylph that is screaming out to jump ship across. If not then i have some maths to start on....

John Compton via Paizo Blog wrote:
As has been the case with the introduction of other factions, characters will have the option to switch to the Concordance without spending any Prestige Points.

Grand Lodge ***** Venture-Captain, Arizona—Phoenix aka TriOmegaZero

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Rogar Valertis wrote:
I have a couple of Scarab Sages and while I'm not happy to see the faction gone I hope they get better closure than what happened to the Shadow Lodge...

Salvation of the Sages is a textbook example of how to end a faction's story.

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This is incredibly upsetting. Especially as the season began with one of the best boons in PFS being a Scarab Sage mission. I would have liked to see the faction fleshed out rather than be put to bed.

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Well, where does this leave us:

The Grand Lodge is as boring as dirt without the Shadow Lodge to serve as its foil.

The Dark Archive's leader has lost her teeth and flavor since her disassociation from Cheliax.

Liberty's Edge has been less than inspiring for a while due to questionable leadership, so hopefully that will improve soon.

The Exchange is now a two-headed beast with muddled flavor and focus.

The Silver Crusade continues in general, vague goodness.

The Sovereign Court has semi-noble goals, depending on one's perspective, but lacks the decadence or intrigue of its prior incarnations.

Honestly, I'm starting to miss the original nationalist factions.

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I'm super excited by this announcement.

I like to see change over time and appreciate that PFS leadership has shared the news ahead of time.

Sovereign Court

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Pirate Rob wrote:
I like to see change over time and appreciate that PFS leadership has shared the news ahead of time.

I do just want to note my agreement with this. I'm still very upset for various personal reasons, but from the larger perspective of the Society and organized play, I think they're doing a good job with this.

Dark Archive ***

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This is really cool. The concordance is an amazing faction, and I can't wait to convert my Pawladin of Ranginori! I wonder if we will be able to keep the faction journal benefits we've accumulated up until now. It'd be kind of lame to lose 21 adventures worth of skipping dayjobs and doing extra checks just to start anew...especially when my character already had the concordance of the elements boon from Gencon ahaha...

Sovereign Court

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Arashi al-Ranginori wrote:
I wonder if we will be able to keep the faction journal benefits we've accumulated up until now.
John Compton wrote:
In addition, members of the Scarab Sages faction will keep any benefits earned on Scarab Sages Faction Journal Cards, but once the faction's retired, they won't be able to fulfill further goals.

Shadow Lodge

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I have two Scarab Sage characters. One is level 11.2 and started as Osirion and has played almost every Scarab Sage mission. The other is level 1.

I'd intended to have my high-level character go out by slow-tracking Words of the Ancients and the Waking Rune (since she's hit all the other Lissalla 7-11s in preparation), but now I think I need to slow-track Salvation of the Sages and then Waking Rune.

Decisions, decisions.

What's sad is that locally Scarab Sages are the most-played non-Grand Lodge faction. (Though Dark Archive has been gaining ground.)


I'll certainly run it for you - we can slot another character in for Words of the Ancients. Sometimes your faction calls.

Besides, you have a deva to counsel anyway.

*** ⦵⦵ Venture-Agent, California—San Francisco Bay Area North & East

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I am so excited about a Concordance faction! My sylph psychic used to work for the Concordance until they asked her to join the Pathfinder Society, so this is so perfect for her!

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What’s also disappointing is that the Scarab Sages are the only Garund-based and focused faction. Instead of expanding outwards into Golarion beyond tne Inner Sea region, the Society seems to be contracting in on itself.

Paizo Employee ***** Organized Play Lead Developer

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The blog introducing the Concordance faction is now live, too.

Shadow Lodge ***** ⦵⦵

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They re also the only non evilish bookworm faction in a society that prizes knowledge . I guess knowledge is power, power is corruption, study hard be evil?

Shadow Lodge ****

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Always disappointed to see factions disappear, hopefully their departure will be handled significantly better than Shadow Lodge(#StillCastsAShadow). For an organization devoted to obtaining knowledge and preserving history, removal of the history preservation faction strikes me as a very odd choice. From my perspective, it makes much more sense for Liberty's Edge to be given the boot, since the Society doesn't particularly care about social justice, and has a good motivation to cut ties with everything Maldris touched.

It's also strange to me that the Concordance of Elements is showing up again, considering Unleashing the Untouchable pretty handily ended the Society's forays into the elemental planes...

Shadow Lodge ***** ⦵⦵

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Rather specific but important question

Salvation of the sages:
, "any characters affected by faction retirement can retain any faction-based benefits but can't purchase new items specific to the retired faction.

Does that include the Jeweled Sage Faction reward? 30 PP isn't something I have lying around, I'd have to Run the character pretty hard to earn that before the new season.

The Exchange ***** Venture-Agent, North Carolina—Charlotte aka eddv

pjrogers wrote:
What’s also disappointing is that the Scarab Sages are the only Garund-based and focused faction. Instead of expanding outwards into Golarion beyond tne Inner Sea region, the Society seems to be contracting in on itself.

I am torn on it. I still sort of question why the Lantern Lodge faction was ever retired at all since it continues to be a major story focus but the society DOES go to the Dragon Empires quite frequently and this season has seen a lot of the society going to northern Garund, so I do expect the Sages to still be around...unless we as players decide for their organization to get destroyed in 9-07.

But it is being replaced by a planes/nature focused faction set in the Elemental Plane of Air so its hard to call this a real contraction.

That said my good aligned scholarly sorts do now find themselves without a home. Grand Lodge just never feels like the right fit (without the shadow lodge I really have no idea what supporting the decemvirate even means to be honest.)

I guess they will go to the Silver Crusade because at least they seek to use the society's awesome power for good, even if beyond the Durant Valais story they havent...done much since year 5.

***** Venture-Captain, Georgia—Savannah

Steven Schopmeyer wrote:
Rogar Valertis wrote:
I have a couple of Scarab Sages and while I'm not happy to see the faction gone I hope they get better closure than what happened to the Shadow Lodge...
Salvation of the Sages is a textbook example of how to end a faction's story.

True, other than that we have 2/3 of a season to go... plenty of time to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. ;-)

No, really, as sad as I am to see them go, I'm confident they'll get a respectable send-off!

Silver Crusade ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Pennsylvania—Pittsburgh aka Terminalmancer

I have a number of homeless druids and ranger-types who are already very excited about this!

The only question I've got is whether we'll get a new set of faction vanities for the Concordance, or if maybe they'll end up with the old Osirian vanities instead?

I only had one Scarab Sage character, so I'm not particularly feeling the sting of this, but I understand why people might not be happy.

***** Venture-Captain, Georgia—Savannah

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pH unbalanced wrote:

I have two Scarab Sage characters. One is level 11.2 and started as Osirion and has played almost every Scarab Sage mission. The other is level 1.

I'd intended to have my high-level character go out by slow-tracking Words of the Ancients and the Waking Rune (since she's hit all the other Lissalla 7-11s in preparation), but now I think I need to slow-track Salvation of the Sages and then Waking Rune.

Really, don't spoil some 'needed' pre-Salvation player prep:
You asked for it. If you haven't played it already on this PC, play S06-04 Beacon Below (7-11) before you play Salvation. You'll be glad you did. Really.
Sczarni

Since Scarab Sages is getting retired I have a quick question, there's a vanity called "the Risen" for the Scarab Sages which calls out if we have that vanity we can never leave the faction... so after the retirement of the faction do the Scarabs with "the Risen" also get retired?

Paizo Employee ***** Organized Play Lead Developer

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Sid De Squid wrote:
Since Scarab Sages is getting retired I have a quick question, there's a vanity called "the Risen" for the Scarab Sages which calls out if we have that vanity we can never leave the faction... so after the retirement of the faction do the Scarabs with "the Risen" also get retired?

I recall we ran into the same concern when the Osirion faction turned into the Scarab Sages. I don't remember the exact resolution then (I can search for it a little later), but I recall the decision was pretty tame. I would not expect any issues with that vanity at the end of Season 9—particularly not a character's forced retirement.

Silver Crusade

BigNorseWolf wrote:

Rather specific but important question

** spoiler omitted **

I agree, that is an important question, since I had to blow some PP on a raise dead a while back. I wouldn't want miss out on the thing, even if with my primary mental stat being Charisma it makes me an unusual Scarab Sage.

Silver Crusade **** Venture-Lieutenant, Ohio—Toledo

I applaud the change. Druids have been needin' the love for a long time now. Welcome to the party, Concordance!

Silver Crusade ***** Venture-Captain, Germany—Aschaffenburg-Würzburg

I appreciate the advanced warning, and to be honest despite at least one nitpick I have with the scenario Salvation of the sages is a worthy conclusion to the faction's story.

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To be honest, the Sages where a faction that was kinda hard to sell to new players, and I would bet that locally it is pretty rare. The Concordance has distinct advantages when it comes to that.

Sovereign Court ** Venture-Agent, Alaska—Anchorage aka 1bent1

neat!

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This announcement nearly caused me to drop out of a session tonight. There is no good faction for the character I'm playing to go to. She is an historian and archaeologist who finds the Scarab Sages a perfect fit. There really does need to be a faction for students of history, even if the Scarab Sages themselves are no longer part of the Society.

Shadow Lodge *****

I hate to say it, but the Grand Lodge can cover that niche. Nowhere near as well as the Scarab Sages, of course.

Scarab Sages *

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Boon Question:
There is a new 'experimental' faction that is going around on some boons. Is that going to replace the Sages?

Grand Lodge **** ⦵⦵ Venture-Agent, Indiana—Decatur aka Kadasbrass Loreweaver

I started PFS during Season 5. At the time I looked at the factions and felt that Osirion and Taldor were kinda MEH. But after seeing stuff unfold as a GM and seeing the whole picture I realized my first impression was wrong and the new Sovereign Court and Scarab Sage factions became my favorites.

Seeing Scarab Sages retired as a faction will hurt, thought I understand the need of the Concord of Elements and will move at least one char to that (thought not my Scarab Sages). The few times I played this past 2 years were with my Scarab Sage characters. Guess I will have a reason to go back to other characters.

Just promise me that #9-07: Salvation of the Sages will be at GenCon in case I miss my chance at Who Yer Con.

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So, if all our factions that we *like* get retired, can we just pick 'Unaffiliated' as our faction and get 'Unaffilated' credit, and then at some future point get a free transfer to any new faction that pops up?

Edit: No, not Grand Lodge, thank you. I have very few folks that fit that 'mindset'.

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I'm really getting burned on this as 5 characters of mine won't fit in any other faction. It's essentially character death for all of them. Why can't we lose one of the more boring factions?

Shadow Lodge *****

Because none of the boring factions have fulfilled their story arcs

Venture-Agent, Massachusetts—Boston Metro aka MadScientistWorking

Kalindlara wrote:
Arashi al-Ranginori wrote:
I wonder if we will be able to keep the faction journal benefits we've accumulated up until now.
John Compton wrote:
In addition, members of the Scarab Sages faction will keep any benefits earned on Scarab Sages Faction Journal Cards, but once the faction's retired, they won't be able to fulfill further goals.

So I have until February to get the Salvation of the Sages boon....

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"It will be interesting to see what our new leader will do with the resources of the Edge at his disposal, and what our goals as a faction will be in the coming months.

Will he cleave close to his original path, or will he grow outwards even as others grow with him?"

Paizo Employee ***** Organized Play Lead Developer

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MadScientistWorking wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
Arashi al-Ranginori wrote:
I wonder if we will be able to keep the faction journal benefits we've accumulated up until now.
John Compton wrote:
In addition, members of the Scarab Sages faction will keep any benefits earned on Scarab Sages Faction Journal Cards, but once the faction's retired, they won't be able to fulfill further goals.
So I have until February to get the Salvation of the Sages boon....

You have until the end of July to do so.

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My only local venue closed a while back, and likely won't reopen until early next year. So I'm glad there's a little more time. I have to gain from five to nine levels before time's up, though... so I'm a little worried.

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TOZ wrote:
Because none of the boring factions have fulfilled their story arcs

Well if they would quit being boring maybe they would.

But seriously, is that really how this works? When a faction completes their goals they vanish from existence instead of just finding new goals like you'd expect? Because if that's the case what's the point in making a character loyal to a specific faction if you're eventually gonna be given a choice to either make up a reason for them to join a different faction or throw all their chronicle sheets away?

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TOZ wrote:
Because none of the boring factions have fulfilled their story arcs

Which kind of brings up two other things...

Will folks who are in the Scarab Sages at retirement be allowed to keep their Scarab Sages icon on the forums?

And...

Lantern Lodge fulfilled their arc by bringing the Society to Tian Xia and vice versa.

Shadow Lodge did their thing (most of it still under Grand Lodge censoring ie, haven't played some of it yet)

Guaril Karela made the most un-even trade deal *ever* with the Trade Prince and it resulted in a lop-sided faction that has two heads and confused agendas. Only based on how my characters have been treated by the Exchange, not necessarily the reality.

The Silver Crusade is unlikely to be retired any time soon, as there is always evil in the world, right?

The Dark Archive is unlikely to be retired any time soon, as they are the ones who run 'Lodge 13'

Liberty's Edge is all about freedom and abolition and there's still a buncha slavery in the world, so unlikely that they'll be retired any time soon...

Grand Lodge is The House.

Did I miss any of the current ones?

Grand Lodge ***** Venture-Captain, Arizona—Phoenix aka TriOmegaZero

Corwin Icewolf wrote:
When a faction completes their goals they vanish from existence instead of just finding new goals like you'd expect?

You mean like Andoran, Cheliax, Osirion, Qadira, and Taldor did?

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Steven Schopmeyer wrote:
Corwin Icewolf wrote:
When a faction completes their goals they vanish from existence instead of just finding new goals like you'd expect?
You mean like Andoran, Cheliax, Osirion, Qadira, and Taldor did?

Beats me, I wasn't in pfs when they were around. But I thought they went away because they decided to make the factions non regional. Scarab sages had similar goals to osirion only not osirion specific, and so on.

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